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CNN and Michelle Obama selling the myth that women worldwide are deprived of education.

equiposeur

October 11, 2016
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Title CNN and Michelle Obama selling the myth that women worldwide are deprived of education.
Author

equiposeur

Upvotes 131
Comments 30
Date October 11, 2016 9:30 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/570itb/cnn_and_michelle_obama_selling_the_myth_that/
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Comments

[–]Imnotmrabut 37 points38 points39 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Michelle is desperate to big herslef up ever since she took that spanking from the WSJ;

The 10,000 Kidnapped Boys of Boko Haram

... and to think she hasn't even asked for one of them back yet!

Mrs First Lady Of Male Disposability has to cover up her past sexism somehow!

[–]equiposeur[S] 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Obama and CNN are stirring up moral outrage based on the idea that women/girls around the world are deprived education, and Obama is touting the billions of dollars that have been pledged on the issue. In reality, under-education is a gender neutral problem. But nobody cares about the boys.

Women’s superior educational attainment in the US has been widely recognized[1], though nonetheless we are still told that male education can never be a priority.

Worldwide, men receive somewhat more schooling (an average of 8 years schooling by age 30, compared to 7 for women), but PC propagandists want us to believe that women are severely oppressed in this area.

The statistician Hans Rosling discussed public mis-information about women’s global education in a 2014 Ted talk.[2] He has conducted surveys where he informs people, correctly, that men on-average receive 8 years of education, and then asks them how much education they estimate women receive. He talked about 3 test groups, a Swedish audience, a US audience, and an elite audience at the Ted talk. The results broke down like this:

Sweden: 9% said 7 years; 46% said 5; 45% said 3. USA: 24% said 7; 52% said 5; 24% said 3. Ted: 18% said 7; 31% said 5; 49% said 3.

All of the groups dramatically overestimated the difference, and all erred in the direction of considering women/girls more disadvantaged than they were.

I wonder how much more misled the population will be after Michelle Obama is done with her campaign.

[1] Among those 25-34, 36% of US women hold bachelor’d degrees, compared to 28% of men. [2] http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_and_ola_rosling_how_not_to_be_ignorant_about_the_world#t-215676. At 3:30.

[–]dominotw 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

women/girls around the world are deprived education

This is largely stil true in third world hellholes like Indian. I've seen it with my own eyes. And given how big this population is, its not an exaggeration to say 'worldwide'.

[–]franklindeer 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

women/girls around the world are deprived education

This is true but it leaves the second half of the sentence off which should be "as are boys". In Africa for example there is only a few percent difference between boys and girls in terms of lack of education. The reality is that it doesn't really matter all that much if you're male or female if you're in an underdeveloped country.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is that, unsurprisingly, the effort to correct the problem is unbalanced toward females. Take a look at how international charities work. They overwhelmingly support women.

They give women microloans for businesses and pay for their education. The males in the area may get seeds to plant food.

Subsequently, the balance of power in the area shifts to the women. Over here, feminism has sneaked in over decades. Imagine being the head of your household one day and then within a year you're still broke and unemployed, while the females in your house are being educated and your wife makes more money than you've ever seen.

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[–]dominotw 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

any country that has 'designated shitting streets' is 3rd world country. sorry!

[–]Lurker_IV 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yah, well other countries have Detroit.

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[–]dominotw 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

[–]omegaphallic 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say India has achieved 2nd world status, and is on the march towards 1st world status.

[–]Imnotmrabut 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All of the groups dramatically overestimated the difference, and all erred in the direction of considering women/girls more disadvantaged than they were.

Global White Knighting = has to be generic!

[–]mcmur 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is that a myth? There are some countries in the world where it's literally illegal for women to go to school. I would be surprised if literacy rates weren't at least a little lower for women on average globally than men. Significantly so in some places.

[–]equiposeur[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a myth. Please check out Hans Rosling's TED talk.[1] As he states, the few cases where girls are denied schooling get a lot of coverage, which leads people to disregard the vast majority of cases where they don't.

Yes, more girls than boys are denied schooling, but the numbers are pretty close. There is no excuse for ignoring all those boys and pretending only girls suffer.

[1] http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_and_ola_rosling_how_not_to_be_ignorant_about_the_world#t-215676. At 3:30.

[–]CountVonVague 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who are the educated young african girls supposed to build futures with if the young african boys are being beheaded and indoctrinated into boko haram? I swear these fake humanitarians never think these things through

[–]jaheiner 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Maybe in third world countries they are deprived of an education.

Please show me a developed country (us/uk/canada/etc) where women are deprived of education?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

EXACTLY. I'm pretty sure women outnumber men 3:2 in most universities. I'm dumbfounded how this could be an issue.

[–]Settlers6 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this whole thing, but aren't Michelle's actions focused on education in the third world? At least, in this specific context.

[–]equiposeur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It is a myth that, within the third world, girls are deprived education greatly more than boys are. As I have done in other responses in this thread, I point you to Hans Rosling's 2014 TED talk, discussing public misinformation on this topic.

http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_and_ola_rosling_how_not_to_be_ignorant_about_the_world#t-215676. At 3:30.

Obviously, we should work to improve third-world educational conditions. But we shouldn't focus all of our energies on girls and ignore the boys.

[–]jaheiner 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. All this talk of equality grinds my gears because it's not at all about equality. It's about supremacy. About sitting HIGHER than a man, not about being his equal.

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[–]Argosy37 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually worldwide almost as many boys as girls have no access to education.

As we can see, it is true that there are 62 (and really 63) million girls and women who are out of school worldwide, compared to 61 million boys and men. In other words, the disparity between males and females out of school across the entire world is equivalent to the total population of Houston, Texas.

However, the only people anyone cares about are the girls. "More girls than boys worldwide lack access to education!" headline scream. The numbers are about the same, and yet staggeringly more amounts of money is spent on improving girls's access to education than boys'.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's 61 million boys without an education. And they leave out in many parts of the world proving for the family is still dumped squarely in the laps of these men and boys.

[–]CountVonVague 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Living situations all around need to be stabilized for people not living in first world nations. Shelter from starvation and war, education and medication should be top priority.

[–]Glassclose 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

CNN was just caught being a propaganda machine for the controlling elite.. wouldn't trust shit they said.

[–]kutuup1989 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hang on. They're talking about third world countries, not the developed world. Note they mention that the organization is running programs in "over 50 countries". They're not running these in countries that don't need them. I don't have any problem at all with this organization, in fact I support them, there is a genuine need for the work they do in the places they do it. A lot of third world countries have huge problems when it comes to women's education, right down to some of them simply not allowing women to be educated.

[–]equiposeur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The supposed vast boy/girl education-deprivation gap is a myth. I refer you to the Hans Rosling TED talk mentioned elsewhere in this thread, and to Argosy37's comment.

[–]atred -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And a few years ago, when I had the honor of meeting Malala Yousafzai, who was shot in the head just for trying to go to school, this issue got really personal for me.

...

because right now, there are tens of millions of girls like Malala in every corner of the globe who are not in school -- girls who are so bright, hardworking and hungry to learn.

Sounds like a legitimate issue to me. Is not about women in Western countries...

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How many people in 3rd world/undeveloped countries have the privilege of going to school at all? I agree that it's an issue, but it's an issue that should be tackled from both sides. Why would you seek to make education attainable for only half of the people in desperate need of it?

[–]atred -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In some countries it's not a "both sides" issue, that's the point.

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