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Michigan Teacher Sentenced to Prison for Sex With Her Student. Female Judge Says - If the case had involved a male there would be people here hanging from the ceiling trying to get every drop of blood

craftychap

September 29, 2016
69 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://archive.is/GvDrq
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Title Michigan Teacher Sentenced to Prison for Sex With Her Student. Female Judge Says - If the case had involved a male there would be people here hanging from the ceiling trying to get every drop of blood
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craftychap

Upvotes 69
Comments 22
Date September 29, 2016 2:55 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/552jse/michigan_teacher_sentenced_to_prison_for_sex_with/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/michigan-teacher-sentenced-to-prison-for-sex-with.940776
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Comments

[–]BDMR_lurker 28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Nutshell:

Judge receives letters of support for female rapist, none for 15 y-o male victim.

Judge denounces double-standard and fucked-up community.

Rapist "stunned" to be denied pussy pass: 6 to 15.

.

Note the passive-aggressive approach: nobody wrote to condemn the victim ("he had it coming"), which would be victim-blaming, but they support the perp, erasing the boy.

The gap is real. The sympathy gap, the sentencing gap.

[–]Lethn 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's great though that the judge actually stood up to this bullshit, meanwhile we have judges in other situations blatantly screwing over the victims and pretty much letting their abusers go free.

[–]TheVillageWay 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And a female judge at that! A big thanks to her.

Why? Because females know exactly what other women are like. It's men that often give out the pussy-passes.

[–]Pz5 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll give the judge credit for having the guts to speak out against the double standard.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where are the feminists blasting the letters of support like with Brock Turner? I haven't heard one demand that these people become social pariahs even though none of these letters mentioned the victim.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I guess this is a bittersweet situation. On one hand, I'm glad the judge called out the double standard and denied this predator the Pussy Pass. On the other hand:

[the judge] was distraught and angered over receiving so many letters supporting Ronk, but none mentioning the boy.

it's pretty atrocious that she was getting these letters in the first place

Situations like this perfectly demonstrate why so many judges do indeed give women like this more or less a free pass: because unfortunately, it is indeed what a significant portion of society wants

The double standard is very much alive in the minds of the people, and the decisions of the judges reflect this. If judges were to start giving women like this equal sentencing as men--or likewise, to start giving men like this the sentences women are getting now--people would be outraged and there would be letters and petitions to appeal the "harsh" sentences for women/light sentences for men

And of course in addition, a lot of judges and prosecutors themselves agree with the double standards, which also contributes to these women getting light sentences and amazing plea deals

So I'm glad this particular case worked out the way it did, but sadly judge like this--who are more concerned about the well-being of the boys who are actual victims rather than the women who rape them--seem to be in the minority

[–]FallingSprings 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The letters probably came because the lady's defense attorney got her friends and family to write them. It's commonly done before sentencing. It's not unusual that there are more letters supporting the defendant than the victim.

[+][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I dont see why soo many of these manchildren are so bent out of shape on that point. Also regarding the sentencing, it is a bit harsh as the boy was 15-16

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If that was the case then show evidence it was, also if the Judge felt it pertinent to mention then as a Judge she would have knowledge of the inner workings of cases and phenomena therein, so if it was an everyday occurrence no need to single out this particular case, but that doesn't matter to you as the whole Cavewoman Third Wave attitude of 'Man bad Woman good' seems to be your shtick.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Calm down and stop throwing a temper trantrum :) All I'm stating is that he was 16 years old and so both parties had a part to play. She ofcourse should have known better then to fall for his advances but having such a sentence seems a bit overkill

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Haha see how you open with a term such as temper tantrum but your track record in /r/mensrights is consistent with that very statement. The kid is underage, if it was a girl with a male perp you would be singing a different tune with your biased view on men that we are filthy predators, woman is involved all of a sudden its oh the poor dear that's a bit harsh lol.

EDIT: and still no evidence the letters were from family

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wow who hurt you? I recommend you take a break from this anti feminist/women rhetoric you're spewing and clear your mind

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Haha Nothing cogent just more misandrist garbage.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If that stops your whining then ok sweetie :)

[–]craftychap[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the best you've got is it, whining... Lame.

[–]xNOM 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Judge takes the red pill:

"You are dealing with children that are still developing emotionally," Grant said Wednesday, the Free Press reports.

"To have this continuing double standard is unacceptable. The law does not recognize a double standard, the law is clearly on point in terms that these children are developing human beings. This was a person in position with power and influence over him."

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good Judge !

[–]TheVillageWay 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And a female judge at that! A big thanks to her.

Why? Because females know exactly what other women are like. It's men that often give out the pussy-passes.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality, bitch!

[+]rg57 -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is another vaguely-described case, which typically means that he enjoyed it.

It's not a good thing that male accused are treated like murderers. THAT is the problem that needs to be resolved. We should not be expanding that problem to other groups.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter if he enjoyed it or not, that assumption is baseless. The effects of sleeping with an adult with authority over you aren't always immediate, even if they did "like it" at the time. Just because they participated willfully doesn't mean they won't be negatively affected by it.

Which is why you don't fuck kids or underage teens. It's really not that hard.

[–]PeteyMax -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure why you're getting so heavily downvoted. I would tend to agree. Maybe the problem is not adults having sex with 15-year-olds but rather our negative attitude towards sex. In this promiscuous age, it's probably better if most people gained experience early in life and and also that that experience was with someone older and more experienced rather than having two virgins fumbling at each other and then in college having all the misunderstandings that lead to lawsuits and men getting kicked out .

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