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Apologists argue that the lopsided coverage of female Olympic events by NBC is "smart" since women are better athletes - oh, and also the result of Title IX activism

patcomen

August 18, 2016
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-oly-women-plaschke-20160816-snap-story.html
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Title Apologists argue that the lopsided coverage of female Olympic events by NBC is "smart" since women are better athletes - oh, and also the result of Title IX activism
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patcomen

Upvotes 20
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Date August 18, 2016 11:09 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
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[–]ThePigmanAgain 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Better athletes? Then let's de-segregate sport and we'll see who the better athletes really are.

[–]chocoboat 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You're missing the point. Every country's TV coverage focuses on its own athletes, especially in events where they're expected to do well and win medals.

The US women are much better athletes in relation to their competition than the US men are. This is because in much of the world, women's sports are not taken seriously and not funded well. The US men are up against the entire world... the US women are up against a much softer field of opponents where only a few of them are world class athletes.

The US women are winning more, and TV viewers like to see Americans win... so NBC shows a lot of the US women. It only makes sense.

There is nothing wrong with any of this, and the article is only pointing out why it's happening. It does NOT claim that women work harder than the men or are better athletes than the men.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good point.

[–]Son_Of_The_Empire 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GOOD point.

[–]DashRiprockIII 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The number of medals earned per sex is irrelevant. Do you think that if the men earned more medals we would have seen less women’s events than men’s this year? Not likely is it?

Men make up half the viewing audience and they are not the slightest bit interested in female sports. It’s boring for men. The females are separated from the males because the men are more dynamic, women simply can’t compete with them and men know this. This is blatantly obvious when watching them. So asking men to be glued to the female events is exactly the same as asking women to be glued to the Special Olympics.

So if women really do earn medals at a greater rate (and that could only be if they receive more funding and support) it still doesn’t matter one bit to half the viewing audience, i.e. Men. Men are interested in male events and women are interested in female events (in group bias). It’s a 50 / 50 split. It’s just how we identify. So men should receive 50% of the televised time. Even a five year old would be able to work out that that’s only fair.

However female events have been televised across the western world at around 75 to 25 favouring women for no other reason than an ideological desire to bash masculinity and promote female supremacy. The Olympics is all about nationalism and the progressive left hate that and so they are always looking to frustrate. And ignoring the men works nicely.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I do kind of enjoy women's hockey and outdoor volleyball.

[–]Rabbitdog2 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I enjoy field hockey, and gymnastics, this dude is just being flat sexist.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude I know this stripper who used to be a gymnist, she can fold herself like deck chair on stage and then shakes her breasts, its amazing! Okay thread drift, but Nova popped into my head when you said gymnist.

[–]chocoboat -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The number of medals earned per sex is irrelevant.

It's extremely relevant. All over the world, people want to watch athletes from their own country doing well and winning medals. Every country's TV coverage puts a special focus on the events in which their own athletes do well.

Do you think that if the men earned more medals we would have seen less women’s events than men’s this year?

Yes, I am saying exactly that.

Men make up half the viewing audience and they are not the slightest bit interested in female sports. It’s boring for men.

Sounds like your own personal views, you don't speak for all men. Plenty of men enjoy seeing women compete, in the same way they enjoy watching lighter weight classes in the UFC and boxing. It's a different type of competition with smaller, lighter athletes. (Of course, this varies by sport... no one watches women's basketball, but plenty of people watched the women swimmers.)

So if women really do earn medals at a greater rate (and that could only be if they receive more funding and support)

They do earn more medals, and they don't receive more funding and support. The reason they win more medals is weaker competition - in many countries the funding/support for female athletes is minimal, so the American women have an advantage over them. The American men are taking on well-funded and supported opponents every time.

So men should receive 50% of the televised time. Even a five year old would be able to work out that that’s only fair.

Television ratings are not based on what's fair, they're based on what viewers want to see. American viewers want to see American athletes do well, so NBC shows them what they want to see.

However female events have been televised across the western world at around 75 to 25 favouring women for no other reason than an ideological desire to bash masculinity and promote female supremacy.

First of all, as stated in the OP it's 58.5% female and 41.5% male, not 75/25. Second, you're crazy if you think NBC cares more about using the Olympics to push a political agenda than they care about ratings and money. It's ALL about ratings and money. Third, most other countries' coverage is not heavy on coverage of women's events because other countries don't have women who are likely to win medals.

[–]Arby01 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, the article doesn't actually make that claim - the closest I was able to read is that the women have landed more medals. The title is somewhat misleading.

[–]Arby01 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is the closest statement

But the more girls can grow up and watch Olympics like this, knowing they’re just as good as the men’s teams,

Which is true only in the sense that they are as likely or more likely to win against the competition as the men's teams - I don't believe anyone actually thinks they can compete against mens teams - looking at the times makes that obvious - most female gold medal winners wouldn't even catch up to the last place male in their respective sport.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women enjoy being treated like children.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great idea, an end to sports segeration.

[–]xNOM 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

During the first half of the Olympics, according to a study by three college professors, 58.5% of the NBC’s prime-time telecasts were devoted to women, the most ever, and why not?

”It’s just smart programming,’’ said Andy Billings, a sports media professor at the University of Alabama and one of the study’s authors. “Because we have such a progressive culture, we have a lot of the greatest women athletes in the world.”

LOL why don't you wait for the ratings for male vs female events before you say that.

[–]Arby01 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/u/pariahdog has the right comment - societally, we like watching attractive fit women. Certain specific male events may get higher ratings - Track with Bolt, swimming with Phelps - but who wants to watch men's beach volleyball?

As an aside, I do think that there is a ridiculous clothing issue here - why can men's beach volleyball essentially wear basketball knee length shorts and women are wearing bikini bottoms? Is this a choice by the women's sport to increase viewership or is it imposed?

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know the regulations, but I think what the athletes wear is not so far off from what normal people wear at the beach.

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Female american olympians are going to out-perform male american olympians for the foreseeable future for 2 main reasons.

  1. The United States provides more support for its female athletes than any other country in the world. The support advantage that american women have over women in many other countries is so large its that its basically not fair. The feminists and Title-IX worshippers love nothing more than to cry about the supposed horrible state of female athletes here in the U.S., but the bottom line is that American women are so friggin dominant in international sporting events (olympics, women's world cup, etc) because the United States is more supportive of female athletes than literally anywhere else on Earth.

  2. The clear majority of the top american male athletes end up in football, basketball, or baseball, because there is so much more money to be made in those sports than there are in olympic sports. Its the same thing with soccer here in the U.S. MLS doesn't pay anywhere near as much as the NFL, NBA, or MLB do. If elite athletes had as much opportunity to make money participating in olympic sports as they do the major team sports here in the U.S., then the american men would be dominating the olympics just as much as the american women do, and probably even more.

[–]Arby01 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

given that they have people holding 6+ medal streaks, I think this is the most likely explanation. There is no way that the US just happens to have the most talented woman on the planet in several different sports where that woman is just so dominant that there is no real competition.

[–]DownWithDuplicity 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's interesting you highlight baseball, because baseball has been one of the sports hit hardest by Title IX. Remember, 85 scholarships are reserved for football so that means that's 85 scholarships that have to be provided for women. All other men's sports except basketball suffer as a result.

[–]Pariahdog119 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My co workers have been watching the Olympics during breaks. Women's diving, women's running, women's beach volleyball, men's shotput, women's synchronized swimming, basketball.

The reason women are getting so much more coverage? People like looking at attractive, scantily clad women.

[–]chocoboat 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't underestimate how much people like looking at the male athletes. There's been plenty of coverage of men's diving and gymnastics as well.

The main reason women are getting more coverage is that they're winning more often than the men, due to many countries not having any serious female athletes while most of their male athletes are serious competitors.

But it's still definitely true that looking at attractive women is a factor. Women's beach volleyball gets a whole lot of TV time... women's basketball and cycling, not so much.

[–]Mitchell78 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Much easier to medal for women because there is just much less competition, in a lot of countries women barely play sports. Because of this and the fact that you are only the best of half the population (and not everybody like when a men gets a medal) means women's medals have less value.

[–]mighty914 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The key takeaway from the article for me was that 58.5% of NBC's primetime coverage is of womens sports. A great refutation next time someone tries to tell you their coverage has been sexist.

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