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Moral Machine

wazzup987

August 14, 2016
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/r/MensRights
http://moralmachine.mit.edu/
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Title Moral Machine
Author

wazzup987

Upvotes 5
Comments 10
Date August 14, 2016 5:03 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4xmtxs/moral_machine/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/moral-machine.943747
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Comments

[–]myrpou 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I decided to always swerve to the ones walking on red and always swerve from the barrier. I only swerve to the barrier if it means not killing any humans. I always swerve if it means no humans die, otherwise life of person in car is prioritised over pedestrians no matter the amount.

[–]cum_penibus 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I found my principles quickly emerged as follows:

1) Pedestrians crossing on red were fair game. They chose to do a dangerous thing.

2) Drivers & passengers should be sacrificed before pedestrians crossing on green as they chose to get in the car and derive benefits from it so they should shoulder the risk too.

3) Minimising number of casualties when all else is equal.

4) No judgement on the worth of any given individual (except cats)

5) If all factors after considering 1-4 are absolutely equal then do continue on course.

[–]myrpou 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

maybe yours is better. I dunno why I prioritise passengers over pedestrians, I just think it's weird to put yourself in a car that would sacrifice you if it meant saving more people.

[–]SirSkeptic 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmmm, non-law-abiding cats did not fare well in my results.

But fat and fit people did about equally.

[–]MalibuStayZ 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Problem is that the questions take the death of the involved for certain.

Would most pedestrians not notice that a car is driving towards them without slowing down and at least try to run away? And could the car not use its horn to warn them if the breaks fail?

On the other hand driving a car into a barrier doesn't mean certain death for its occupants either.

[–]iongantas 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oops, I accidentally selected one without seeing what the scenario was.

[–]TechnoSam_Belpois 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These questions are kind of silly. No self driving car will actually have access to this kind of information. People give machines far too much credit.

It's interesting to note that most people favored women's lives over men's.

[–]Neodymie 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is kind of weird. I just minimized the amount of life lost regardless of who it was and favored pedestrians over the people in the car. The summary kind of makes me look like an asshole though.

[–]genderbent 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An interesting flaw in the scenario design - I prioritized non-intervention in my responses, with zero attention gender, yet I ended up with a result that appeared to intensely favour one gender.

[–]_Middlefinger_[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is very flawed, for a start the outcomes in each scenario arent certain in real life, and secondly its unlikely the car would be able to determine the age, gender or any any other attribute of people surrounding it.

I feel like the cars dont need a morality chip, they need a preset action to take in each scenario, and one that is industry wide, so that one sort of car isnt thought of as worse than the others, which would affect liability.

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