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Reid Adler's family forgives girl who posted son's Nude photo before he killed himself

Quadraphonic-

July 25, 2016
95 upvotes
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3705731/Family-forgives-girl-posted-son-s-photo-killed-himself.html
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Title Reid Adler's family forgives girl who posted son's Nude photo before he killed himself
Author

Quadraphonic-

Upvotes 95
Comments 22
Date July 25, 2016 12:38 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4uido3/reid_adlers_family_forgives_girl_who_posted_sons/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/reid-adlers-family-forgives-girl-who-posted-sons.944972
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Comments

[–]AlwaysABride 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Anyone have more info on this story? The linked article doesn't really indicate whether this was a case of:

  1. Teenagers exchanging nude pictures and then those pictures being used as blackmail material and/or revenge porn, or

  2. A dude sending a chick an unsolicited dick pic and her publicly shaming him for that inappropriate behavior.

If it is (1), I think that it is important to tech boys that they can be victims of revenge porn just as much as girls can. Feminists and the media tend to portray revenge porn as a crime with only female victims.

But if it is (2), then feminist mantra is highly culpable. Shaming men for "being creepy" is a defense mechanism that feminists teach to girls and find to be desirable. Whether it is shouting louding in the cafeteria "WHY ARE LOOKING AT ME?", or trying to embarrass guys by sharing unsolicited dick pics.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Isn't it producing child porn if she released it on the Internet? Since he's a minor. The family could win in civil court for damages but just to pussypass your sons life away just bugs me.

[–]Machnow 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i think if it was their daughter that killed herself...same circumstances....the parents, police and prosecutors would have a very, very different reaction.

proves what I've always said....

sons=disposable....daughters=precious

[–]AlwaysABride 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I wondering if the situation is my (2) above and the parents actually feel some shame over the unsolicited dick pic and are giving her the pussy pass because they don't really think what she did was wrong (although they certainly think he shouldn't have killed himself over it).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Small town Nebraska so anything is possible. The whole forgive is the good Christian thing to do could contribute to distancing themselves from thier sons disgusting act. But he isn't a monster. Every other boy in his school is doing the same stuff. As well as every other girl. I wouldn't feel any guilt if he were my son.

[+][deleted] 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Blame isn't the word I would use. I would say her actions contributed but didn't cause the death of this boy.

[–]ARedthorn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's little or no extra info to be found. None of the other stories say anything about the girl- beyond that, apparently, she had the pic for close to a year, and had been holding it over his head (bullying him and threatening to post it if he did anything about it) for several months.

The theme in most articles is nauseating, even as a Christian myself... Forgiveness is well and good... But this ventures into some ugly territory, fast: The father stressing how the picture was inappropriate for his son to take or share, or how it was a mistake and his son knew it, and so on- but that although he should've felt bad for it, he "didn't deserve to pay for the mistake with his life."

Fuck. The father spends more time talking about how wrong it was for his son to take the pic than he spends talking about how wrong it was for the girl to bully him with it.

Reading this shit's giving me flashbacks to the private Christian schooling I went through (my parents apologize for putting me through that hell at least once a month), and the general shaming for any expression of sexuality- cis/het et al.

It's the school's 3rd suicide this year. Is it any wonder?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The father spends more time talking about how wrong it was for his son to take the pic than he spends talking about how wrong it was for the girl to bully him with it.

Not necessarily. The writer is quoting parts of their interview to give the article the feel they think it should have. You can't assume that the father is prioritizing that issue just from those few selective quotes.

Since the family are forgiving the girl they may well have had a very forgiving attitude to their son.

I think it's more likely that the father is a feminist and is socially programmed to trot out the "men bad, women good" narrative, even in the face of his son's death. He probably can't fathom the thought that the girl might have been acting spitefully and his son was a victim.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm seeing a lot of "this girl feels guilty; her guilt is enough punishment!" from both the family and in the comments there. Why do people blindly assume she has enough of a conscience to feel terribly about it? and terribly about it enough that they think it's sufficient punishment?

Maybe she doesn't give a shit. Maybe she feels kind of badly that he's dead, but ultimately is just glad to have gotten away scot-free? Would this be a just punishment for this boy's life?

She posted this picture to publicly shame him; on what basis does everyone assume she's harboring this immense guilt about the consequences if she's evidently a big enough asshole to commit this action in the first place?

I wonder if it's just because she's a girl people think she's sympathetic and feels badly, considering the stereotype that males are cold, heartless monsters when they do things like this, and that girls are sensitive and sweet and don't really mean any harm

[–]Aaod 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe she doesn't give a shit. Maybe she feels kind of badly that he's dead, but ultimately is just glad to have gotten away scot-free? Would this be a just punishment for this boy's life?

I agree look at the primary bully in the Columbine killings years later they asked him if he felt any guilty about it and his response was something along the lines of no they were fags and deserved it.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That last paragraph is correct, people are so naive about women.

[–]Ultimate_Failure 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Anyone think if the genders were reversed the prosecutor would give the family the option to not press charges for child porn and extortion/blackmail?

Of course it never would have come to that, because if the boy called the father of the victim and told him a sob story, forgiveness would not be forthcoming.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women aren't equal. Its just I'm the opposite way everyone thinks.

[–]Arby01 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Anyone think if the genders were reversed the prosecutor would give the family the option to not press charges for child porn and extortion/blackmail?

yeah, this was my thought. Since when is it the families choice? Oh, let's ask the 7-11 owner first if he wants the armed robbers prosecuted? Like that happens.

[–]Ultimate_Failure 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Usually the only time you get a say is if your testimony is essential to the prosecution's case.

[–]dankpants 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The editor of this article should lose their job

[–]RunawayGrain 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

‘She’s already carrying probably one of the worst sentences she could ever carry,’ he told the newspaper.

I hate to say it, but you are assuming she has a conscience about it. A lot of younger people nowadays have the mentality that the consequences of their actions are not somehow attributable to them. For example: my crazy ex has done some sleazy stuff, and still claims that it's everyone else's fault.

[–]Meistermalkav 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

simple.

Ask them how the family feels about revenge porn of their daughter being posted by an ex boyfriend.

Bingo.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What she did was wrong, but the family is wonderful for forgiving her. I just hope she wors towards being worthy of their forgiveness.

To err is human, to forgive is divine.

[–]rg57 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Eventually, later on down in the article, it says in part:

In December last year, Reid had sent a note to this mother saying he sometimes felt like he didn’t want to live – and had watched videos about suicide which urged viewers to talk to someone if they felt like harming themselves

So we can't say this had anything to do with the photo.

Still, it happens. No nude photos of anyone should be censorable. These are photos of the truth, a particular instant in time and space.

The whole idea of a "private area" drives up the stakes for people, and is the very cause of bad results.

It's only going to get worse... information wants to be free. If we don't eliminate pointless shame and fear, if we don't teach people how to deal with trolling and bullying, if we don't build resilience into people, we're going to get more of this. Needlessly.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only one to blame here is the girl for publicly sharing information that wasn't hers to share. The boy, or anyone else, has the right to not want his nudity or anything else private showcased publicly without his permission. Not everyone feels comfortable about their nudity, and they shouldn't be forced to

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