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Ghomeshi accuser a hypocrit

omegaphallic

May 13, 2016
21 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/05/12/crown-should-have-prosecuted-ghomeshi
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Title Ghomeshi accuser a hypocrit
Author

omegaphallic

Upvotes 21
Comments 10
Date May 13, 2016 4:00 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4j6zs3/ghomeshi_accuser_a_hypocrit/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/ghomeshi-accuser-a-hypocrit.949653
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Comments

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm amazed to see the Toronto Sun advocate for trashing due process and our long-established adversarial court system. I'd expect that from the Star, but the Sun?!

What I noticed was that Ghomeshi's apology never mentioned anything in particular that he was apologizing for (despite being a truly grovelling apology otherwise).

Then his accuser immediately goes on TV to say that he was apologizing for the crimes he was accused of, but for which she and/or the government apparently thinks it's not worth actually taking to trial. Why? If he's a criminal, shouldn't they want him to be in prison? What about other women?

So this was again all about hurting the guy.

I'm amazed that the settlement apparently didn't include a restriction on what she could say. I would have immediately said she violated the settlement, and head back to court.

[–]Leinadro 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then his accuser immediately goes on TV to say that he was apologizing for the crimes he was accused of, but for which she and/or the government apparently thinks it's not worth actually taking to trial. Why? If he's a criminal, shouldn't they want him to be in prison? What about other women?

Thats because there is a rush to gloss over the reason why he isnt in prison. No one that is outraging about this apology in terms of saying he should be in prison instead is acknowledging why the case fell apart.

They probably think that getting caught cooking up a story isnt grounds to dismiss a trial.....but inly when to victim is female and the accused is male.

[–]CmplsvPrcrstntr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why? If he's a criminal, shouldn't they want him to be in prison? What about other women?

I don't speak for the accuser or prosecution, but it seems to me that prison was unlikely, even in the event of a conviction, and a prison sentence is unnecessary from a public safety perspective. The guy is totally notorious as a scumbag now, so women can take responsibility for avoiding him, or take responsibility for getting involved with him if something bad happens. I mean, for all that he seems like a real piece of work, he doesn't seem like the next Boris Borutski.

I'm amazed that the settlement apparently didn't include a restriction on what she could say. I would have immediately said she violated the settlement, and head back to court.

Really? You'd ask to have the charges reinstated and put yourself at risk of conviction? Keep your name in the media and continue to be publically associated with allegations of sexual harassment and assault? I think the same good reasons that he had for accepting the deal apply to his decision not to void it. I wonder what we can infer about the relative bargaining positions of the Crown and defence from the fact that his accuser wasn't apparently restricted from making her own comments.

[–]Akesgeroth 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Suns are tabloids, what else would you expect of papers which publish garbage like this?

[–]deez_nuts_730 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

she had at times been, “incredibly inappropriate, foul-mouthed and sexual” at the CBC. So what? None of that is relevant to how Ghomeshi treated Borel...

How is this irrelevant? If she was inappropriate and sexual then he was just reciprocating. Typical it's ok for a woman but not a man if you ask me.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Much more of the story here. She admits she should have been fired over her behaviour! But she had her pussy pass of course...

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-is-ghomeshi-complaint-being-dropped-over-credibility-issues-interview-may-hold-clues

[–]Machnow 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she's taunting him.....and he can't sue her for defamation or slander...to do so will risk civil court....and the "preponderance of evidence" standard...to which he'll lose.

she's a scumbag.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People have such a simplstic understanding of power.

Yes he was in a position of authority over her, but is that the only form of power? What about the power of female sexuality? Of about the question of how emotional and social interconnections effect power between the two? What about the power conferred by our gynocentric society? And that just the varibles I could think of.

Unless he blackmailed her using his position, or used it to punish her for turning down his sexual advances, his authority is irrelivent.

So the power arguement is a red herring when it comes to hypocracy.

[–]garybuseysawakening -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I've been told, Borel is yet another spurned lover and it's not coming out.

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I find it puzzling the Crown agreed to settle the case in this way, as there was reportedly an eye witness to the alleged assault.

In other words, it was so egregious, that someone else was around to see it, simply made note of it, then waited a bunch of years to bring it up.

And a slap on the wrist he got.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/02/-sp-jian-ghomeshi-sexual-harassment-cbc-ignored

She says the following:

A few months into my job in 2007, I let out a big yawn at a staff meeting and my host told me “I want to hate fuck you, to wake you up.” I was 27 years old. I made sure never to yawn in front of him again.

Ok. So maybe he got fired. Oops he did.

Nobody here really liked him anyway. He's a feminist. That was probably you.

After that, there were the uninvited back massages at my desk to which it was clear I couldn’t say no, during which my host’s hands would slide down just a little too close to the tops of my breasts. A year into my time on the job, he grabbed my rear end and claimed he couldn’t control himself because of my skirt. Occasionally my host would stand in the doorway of his office when no one was around and slowly undo his shirt by two or three buttons while staring at me, grinning. He once grabbed my waist from behind – in front of our fellow colleague, at the office – and proceeded to repeatedly thrust his crotch into my backside. There was emotional abuse, too: gaslighting and psychological games that undermined my intelligence, security and sense of self. Sometimes that hit harder than the physical trespassing.

In 2010, I went to my union to try and find a way to end this pattern of sexual harassment by Jian Ghomeshi. I had no intention to sue, or to get him fired, or even to have him reprimanded. I just needed him to stop. The union representative and my executive producer at Q, the radio show for which we worked, did nothing.

In retrospect, I’m one of the lucky ones. Ghomeshi never tried to sexually assault or beat me in the three years I worked with him on Q.

OK. So why is everyone in the press saying otherwise?

Why the discordance? Maybe, because you thought it was hilarious at the time? Hard to say.

But last week, Toronto police charged him with four counts of sexual assault and one count of choking a woman. So far, anonymously and in the press, 15 women have made allegations against Ghomeshi of violent physical abuse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3585063/Ex-CBC-radio-hosts-apologizes-sex-assault-charge-dropped.html

"He made it clear that he could humiliate me repeatedly and walk away with impunity," Borel said, noting there were at least three documented incidents of physical touching.

"This includes the one charge he just apologized for, when he came up behind me while I was standing by my desk, put his hands on my hips, and rammed his pelvis against my backside over and over, simulating sexual intercourse."

They settled the case because they wanted to spare feminists the embarrassment of finding out that their troubles were worth all of a couple weeks in prison at most, nothing more.

Oh, the numbers of women who could see the inside of a jail cell for having laid hands on me as well..

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