British father banned from taking his son to church as his mother is Muslim

jdksn5 · 2016-03-27T23:54:45+00:00

The order bars the father from taking the boy to any religious event. It decrees he must provide only Halal food and reassure the child he is 'an ordinary Muslim boy following Muslim rules'.

Wow. In the UK the state can literally force you to raise your child as a certain religion. This is like some medieval shit. "You must raise your son as a good protestant and never mention the catholic faith!"

I'm pretty sure this must violate a whole bunch of human rights legislation.

jtaylor73003 · 2016-03-27T21:48:21+00:00

Why does the state have a say how the child is raised when the parents are divorced, but no say when they are married?

Ultramegasaurus · 2016-03-27T21:47:27+00:00

Gynocentrism/misandry meets Islamophilia

TyrrTheWook · 2016-03-28T08:14:36+00:00

The father, who cannot be named for legal reasons

I wish I would see this more

nrjk · 2016-03-28T10:20:10+00:00

Solution: father converts to Islam. Throws acid on wife and gives her 40 lashes for disobeying a man. State ok with it because tolerance and progressive Western values that hold multiculturalism in high regard.

/s

leftajar · 2016-03-28T16:58:04+00:00

This is a subset of the modern idea that men don't really own their children.

The children are property of the mother, and if the father behaves himself and never misses a support payment, he may be granted the privilege of visitation.

NijjioN · 2016-03-28T15:48:20+00:00

Any other source than Daily Flail?

gprime · 2016-03-28T02:51:14+00:00

In all honesty, I don't think this is a men's rights issue, as much as it is a political correctness issue. Government entities in the west are so afraid of being accused of Islamophobia that most will routinely bend over and accommodate even the grossly unreasonable requests of their Muslim minorities. So I think the impetus for the absurd ruling here is not so much a matter of gender inequity in the British courts, though obvious that is a real problem which routinely manifests itself, but a desire to be seen as tolerant and multicultural.

TalonX1982 · 2016-03-28T11:27:38+00:00

Wait, I thought that only worked like that if the father was Muslim? That's which way the wind blows on that kind of thing. I didn't know it went to the mother's religion as well.

Doriphor · 2016-03-28T05:45:44+00:00

Oh wow that's even more ridiculous than parents deciding their children's religion.

Proteus_Marius · 2016-03-28T06:03:26+00:00

Is this, in all actuality true?

JebberJabber · 2016-03-28T08:33:09+00:00

The mother has primary custody and the father sees the child every second weekend.

I don't know British law or common practise but it may be that decisions on major things like religion, choice of school etc are shared equally between the parents, or it may be that the parent with primary custody makes those decisions. If it is the latter then the non-custodial parent has no right to subvert those decisions.

If for most ex-couples major decisions are shared, that does not mean they are in all cases. Where parents have strong disagreements and can not compromise effectively it would be in the child's interests to have the input of one parent extinguished, because the actual choices are less important than that the choices are consistent and that the parents are not constantly at war.

I'm very sympathetic to the father here but the court either has recognised the matter as one to be decided by the primary parent; or else they are on equal footing and the court accepts the boy is Muslim, his particular branch of the Muslim faith is extremely hostile to contact with other faiths, and that the boy will receive undue pressure if contact with Christians is allowed.

This is not a matter of father's rights, the court is only allowed to consider the interest of the child.

Krissam · 2016-03-27T21:22:57+00:00

Or maybe the judge banned it because he feels every child should be banned from going to church.

Title	British father banned from taking his son to church as his mother is Muslim
Author	BaconCatBug
Upvotes	262
Comments	40
Date	March 27, 2016 9:19 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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