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'Girls in tech' competition won by boy

jononon

March 7, 2016
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35668358
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Title 'Girls in tech' competition won by boy
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jononon

Upvotes 476
Comments 77
Date March 7, 2016 5:49 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/49dspy/girls_in_tech_competition_won_by_boy/
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[–]of_course_jeeves 117 points118 points119 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Just goes to show that reality is not politically correct

[–]exejpgwmv -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Just keep on telling yourself that

[–]of_course_jeeves 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Not Peer reviewed

Nope, you can take this source and stick it. Come back with something better next time.

[–]exejpgwmv -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So, just going to completely ignore my first source?

And something not being peer-review doesn't make it automatically false.

[–]of_course_jeeves 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Actually, I didn't ignore it.

I had to read it to know it wasn't peer reviewed.

Let me hear your arguments.

[–]exejpgwmv -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

https://www.whitehouse.gov/women-in-stem ^ This one is peer-reviewed. And you didn't acknowledge it.

And I think my arguments are pretty clear: Men do not automatically trump women in stem.

[–]of_course_jeeves 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry.

Did anyone hear make that argument?

That men automatically trump women in stem?

Or are you just looking for someone to argue with?

[–]exejpgwmv -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That's what the initial comment seems to be implying.

[–]ReylinTheLost 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Men dominate science, any argument would dominate you.

[–]exejpgwmv 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, come on then. If it's so easy to disprove me then just do it already.

[–]of_course_jeeves 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look, just scuttle off to your meta subreddits.

I don't have time for pointless internet arguments.

[–]assmuffin156 158 points159 points160 points 10 years ago (58 children) | Copy Link

Not a ppd, but i love how they specifically set up an event to prove once and for all that women belong in stem field and can excel in them and then a guy still beat all of them, even with the entire point of the thing against him xD

[–]dendaddy 111 points112 points113 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget the part where the judges are women.

[–]Qui-Gon_Booze 60 points61 points62 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Didn't know that. Somehow makes it better. I wonder if the identity of the participants were kept secret until the judges decided what science project was best.

[–]dendaddy 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wondered the same. It would be good to know.

[–]Nydusurmainus 37 points38 points39 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

You could say its a pussy pass because initially the competition was for girls only and based purely on the fact they were females ment they didn't havento compete against half of the contestants

[–]Rauma5 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link

only ppd if the gender was known by the judges.

[–]Nydusurmainus 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

The fact they opened it to males in itself is a ppd

[–]butthead 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

You and most of the people in this subreddit are complete mental midgets.

Virtually none of the posts are actually PPD and most of them are just he-man woman haters club retard shit.

Actual PPD:

  • Woman slaps man in public, and stands confidently without bothering to protect herself, knowing he won't hit her back simply because she's female. The shatters that illusion by bitchslapping her.

PPD to total retards:

  • A boy won a science contest made to attract girls to STEM.
  • A boy pees in the girls bathroom and doesn't put the seat down.
  • A boy runs up and slaps a random girl for no reason and laughs.
  • A study is released showing males perform better in certain fields.

[–]Nydusurmainus 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

All hail lord of the douche, an all female comp is a pp because the premise is solely based on the fact they have a vag. The comp was then opened up to males because it was seen as discriminatory. Just because there is no violence doesn't mean it isn't a ppd. Sorry if this isnt extreme enough for you

[–]butthead -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

There was no pass involved. You're just a whiny bitch who can't get laid probably so you take your impotence out on everyone with a vagina.

Stop being a retard and get over it. Not everything is an affront to your male pee pee.

[–]Nydusurmainus 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Kek. I'm married mate so pussy ain't an issue. Not with my wife anyway

[–]butthead -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I guess she's the one who wears the pants then.

[–]Nydusurmainus 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Sure sure buddy whatever you reckon. Go back to red pill and whinge to them about some ignorant fool who is lucky enough to be married to a wife with a high sex drive. poor me

[–]UmarAlKhattab 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but i love how they specifically set up an event to prove once and for all that women belong in stem field

???? It says "a competition that was part of a campaign to attract teenage girls to the fields of science, technology, engineering and maths."

It's an "11 to 16-year-olds." Program aimed at girls.

[–]HorlawV2 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"3 of the 4 runner ups are girls"

Still, out of a "few hundreds" participations. Its not like the boys completely destroyed the girls competition.

[+][deleted] -46 points-45 points-44 points 10 years ago* (32 children) | Copy Link

I'm Someone from tech (computer science and engineering).

Men dominate the tech industry by at least 75% so it's easy for a guy to win this event.

EDIT: fuck you all misogynistic fucks.

[–]Acurox 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

That's not really the point here...

It's supposed to be (ironic?) because the event was literally female-dominated and female-targeted yet the male still won. Just because the topic was largely male-dominated has no effect.

[+][deleted] -31 points-30 points-29 points 10 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Actually the effect is immense.

72% of Apple's leaders are male and 63% white. Overall, the company is 69% male, and 54% white.

And those are the percentages after hiring 65% more women, 50% more African-Americans and 66% more Latinos. So those percentages were roughly 10% higher than original somewhere.

Now, why does this have an effect? Well, working for Apple as a women, would be a great learning experience even after a degree and I'd expect to learn a lot, but since the odds are against me, I'll end up working a local company and the learning experience will be a lot lower. I'd go from learning how to write an OS to writing backend of a website making company.

As previously stated, males dominate tech. This was open to both genders, so odds are the male gender dominated this competition.

[–]EclipseClemens 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Women are 2.5 times more likely to be accepted in STEM fields than men. Women don't apply for it, and so men dominate tech. It's the same with garbage collecters too.

[+][deleted] -15 points-14 points-13 points 10 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

STEM is a broad subject, I'm specifically speaking of tech

[–]EclipseClemens 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Yes. The s in stem. I know. Women still don't apply for the jobs in any real numbers... like men. Because it's the same thing. That's why it was grouped by feminist thinkers looking to reduce inequality. Because these areas are the same on this topic. Your point?

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Science is a broad term. Tech is a semi-broad term. Engineering is broad. Math is broad. We're discussing the technological not the science.

[–]EclipseClemens 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but that doesn't matter. All of these broad things act the same on this topic, here's a metaphor. You're saying my pants facts don't count because you are talking about capris. No, that's capri pants.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I'm trying to say men dominate tech so chances are men dominated this competition.

[–]Acurox 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Well, working for Apple as a women, would be a great learning experience even after a degree and I'd expect to learn a lot, but since the odds are against me, I'll end up working a local company and the learning experience will be a lot lower.

Actually no, this is where a lot of people get it wrong. Why are 72% of apple's leaders male and 63% white? the answer is simple- statistically more males apply and get the job. Apple is not discriminating in any way- if a black girl is more qualified than a white guy, then apple will pick the black girl. It's not oppression, just statistics. If 3/4 of applicants are white guys, then it's safe to assume that most of the people working at the company are gonna be white dudes. A lot of industries aren't male-dominated though. Take teaching, for example. I used to janitor at an education-social services high school and there were maybe 10-11 boys in the whole school of 300. It's not that males are far less represented in the teaching field because of discrimination, just far fewer males apply.

edit i forgot: how does apple's employee gender and race makeup affect the results of an entirely different competition? looking at some of the other kids' projects they definitely don't seem as developed as the boy's just saying. Risks like this have to be taken when trying to include everyone. Plus, it's not like they could have included everyone and just say "yea sorry everyone can apply but only girls can win*

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No, the answer is not simple. Its that males dominate in tech. As said here:

And those are the percentages after hiring 65% more women, 50% more African-Americans and 66% more Latinos. So those percentages were roughly 10% higher than original somewhere.

And any tech college is pretty much male-dominted, like RIT.

[–]Acurox 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

ok, and what does "males DOMINATE tech" have to do with the results of this competition. And yes, any tech college is male-dominated, much in the same way that any teaching or language college is female-dominated. Plus, absolutely NOTHING, yes nothing, not even the patriarchy is stopping any female from going to tech college, it's just that there are more men that apply.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This was a co-ed competition. Males dominate tech, and males most likely took up the portion of the competition.

[–]Acurox 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This was a co-ed competition.

yes. correct. so why have you gotten so mad that a male won the competition if it is open to both genders?

Males dominate tech

why do you keep saying this? males don't "dominate" tech, they are just better represented than females, which actually has no effect on any woman trying to get into the tech industry. there is no tax for not having a wong hanging between your legs.

males most likely took up the portion of the competition

Considering the website for the competition looks like this I seriously doubt males took up more spots in the competition than females.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I keep repeating it as people assume this competition had one male and beat 99 women.

When I say dominate, I don't mean they're better I mean take up the better half.

The completion is targeted at women but is co-ed.

[–]Arcon1337 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you being intentionally dense? The actual market has no effect on thus because the test group are 11 to 16 year olds.

[–]teflon_honey_badger 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How are the odds against you? It's not a footrace it's a job.

[–]captainramen 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What makes you think that working for apple gives you more learning experience? It might help your resume, but you would be surprised at what you can learn at a smaller outfit.

[–]99BottlesOfMemes 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing stopping women and African Americans from working for Apple. The majority of people in the States are white, so obviously more white people would work for a primarily American company. It would make sense for an American company to have a percentage of African workers relative to the percentage of Africans in America.

[–]Gadnuk_ 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It was also a contest for KIDS, who attend schools, which are typically dominated by women

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually it varies on where you live.

[–]bradtwo 37 points38 points39 points 10 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]fudge5962 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Source for that?

[–]bradtwo 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not the exact story I've been looking for. But there should be enough /r/rage in this. Kid (White) from South Africa Suspended after putting up posters touting for his candidacy for “Distinguished African-American Student”.

http://www.wnd.com/2004/01/22929/

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That is literally the funniest thing I've seen all week. I'd bet he is 1 of 2 or 3 students who could claim to actually be between first and third generation African.

[–]bradtwo 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah there was one story I read a bit back where a guy got the scollarship and it was revoked because of the same thing. I lived in New Zealand for a couple of years and there were dozens of (as white as me) white people from south africa.

Everyone I talked to (maybe 10 or so) said it's VERY racist against white people there now. This is why there is a big move to GTFO of south africa.

On the other side of the coin, if you're a tourist, you'd love it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

if you're a tourist, you'd love it.

HDI .666, murder rate .310 per mille, total 16259 (#11/#6 in world respectively).

"It is estimated that 500,000 women are raped in South Africa every year[96] with the average woman more likely to be raped than complete secondary school.[97] A 2009 survey found one in four South African men admitted to raping someone[98] and another survey found one in three women out of 4000 surveyed women said they had been raped in the past year.[99] Rapes are also perpetrated by children (some as young as ten).[100] Child and baby rape incidences are some of the highest in the world, largely as a result of the virgin cleansing myth, and a number of high-profile cases (sometimes as young as eight months[100]) have outraged the nation.[101]"

>average woman more likely to be raped than complete secondary school
>Child and baby rape incidences are some of the highest in the world

I would never go there.

[–]bradtwo 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like Jamaica basically. However, I have a few friends that went to Cape Town and said it was a pretty amazing experience. They're well off so I imagine they stayed in the nicer areas of town.

[–]toastedsub94 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://abcnews.go.com/US/confusion-white-high-schooler-returns-scholarship-intended-black/story?id=16544544

Not sure if this is the exact same one

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

EDF said that while its Pretty Curious programme is still aimed at girls

Pretty Curious

aimed at girls

[–]krebstar_2000 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sue Charman-Anderson, who founded the annual celebration of women in Stem, Ada Lovelace Day, told the BBC she had had reservations about the Pretty Curious campaign from the beginning.

"EDF Energy chose to link appearance and interest in Stem through the title of their campaign, despite many people pointing out that it was demeaning to girls," she said.

"Rather than challenging stereotypes, the focus on girls' looks rather than their intelligence reinforces them.

"EDF Energy have failed to understand both the nature of the problem [of women in Stem] and the negative impacts that their publicity stunt may well have on girls who took part with genuine enthusiasm and excitement."

The whole shitshow was not well thought out. Their next conference will be called: The Glass Ceiling is Gone! We replaced it with a mirror for you to check your makeup.

[–]odel555q 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Congratulations to the winner - but I'd love to hear from EDF how the winning solution meets their stated aim for the competition," said computer scientist Dr Sue Black OBE.

"It is taking me a bit of time to work out how this result will change girls' perceptions of Stem."

Maybe it will teach them that they shouldn't expect to have things handed to them and they need to be able to compete on a level playing field.

[–]Dopplegangr1 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A smart fridge was a runner up? A fridge for the bedroom?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's interesting one of the runners up did something related to the kitchen...

[–]extracanadian 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"It was a childrens competition"

"YA and Homer beat the snot out of them"

[–]SurrealDad 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sub used to be good.

[–]LoLSeasons 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really a PPD.

[–]RarelyReadReplies -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The competition was essentially setup for women to win, but then they didn't, therefore, pussy pass denied. The pussy pass was the entry into the competition rigged in their favor.

[–]UmarAlKhattab 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The competition was essentially setup for women to win

Because they were encouraging 11 to 16 year old Girls to go for STEM projects.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

PUSSY PASS: DENIED

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this PPD?

[–]fapsandnaps 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone thought having a competition called Pretty Curious with a general subject of In the Bedroom for children between the ages of 11-16 was a good idea? And further, they we're surprised a boy was the most curious in the bedroom?

[–]HulkThoughts 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no, these girls might realize that STEM is COMPETITIVE. Oh dear lord not that, not competition!

[–]thedarkone47 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"EDF Energy have failed to understand both the nature of the problem [of women in Stem] and the negative impacts that their publicity stunt may well have on girls who took part with genuine enthusiasm and excitement."

All it takes is a half assed idea to win these things. The girls actually took time and thought of reasonable items that would probably be used.

Sure smart fridges and sleep monitors have all ready been made available. But still, it's kind of absurd that that something with little to no practical applications beat those out.

Plus this isn't a PPD this just harms humanity.

[–]Brobi_WanKenobiWatch out for my lightsaber -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Does he identify as a girl or something?

[–]BrtneySpearsFuckedMe 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would you think that? What part of the article makes you think that?

[–]18aidanme 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're implying that mose people even read the article.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody cares when a woman wins. That's why we gave Ron Swanson the Dorothy Everytime Smurf Girl Trophy for Excellence in Female Stuff.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was a co-ed competition.

[+][deleted] -17 points-16 points-15 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The reposts in this subreddit are amazing

[–]seventysevensevens7 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, it happened like a week ago soo...

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