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"Women given 'period leave' to make them more productive"

TreyWalker

March 1, 2016
83 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/period-leave-menstruation-work-employment-uk-women-a6905426.html
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Title "Women given 'period leave' to make them more productive"
Author

TreyWalker

Upvotes 83
Comments 41
Date March 1, 2016 11:20 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/48j8b8/women_given_period_leave_to_make_them_more/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/women-given-period-leave-to-make-them-more.954916
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[–]SRSLovesGawker 29 points30 points31 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So long as men are given the same opportunity for breaks every month, I don't see a problem with it. I suspect it'd make the company in question less competitive overall. but if so that's something the market will sort out.

[–]mwobuddy 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A company that does this either proves that the women taking time off every month are dead weight to the company, or the company will go under compensating people for not working.

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[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, you don't want to open that landmine. If more time off increases production, then that'd men must also should get more time off. Now we're opening pantera's box.

[–]LaggyCamper 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Now would this time off increase the wage gap due to personal choice? Or would it be paid time off?

[–]Antrophis 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you want to see fewer employed women make this a paid time off. Seriously what company in their right minds would employ such costly inefficient workers?

[–]icelander08 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea I don't see this helping women in the market.

[–]hackableyou 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

This is how it is in taiwan. The women I know that live there hardly ever use it for period purposes. When they have to run errands, they say they have their period that month and then just deal with it like every other working woman on the planet when they actually have it.

[–]kacker05 -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

That month? Even every woman I know who takes both control still gets it every month.

[–]hackableyou 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I didn't make myself clear so I apologize. They get their period every month, but they typically don't take their period days off when they have their period. If, for example, tomorrow, they need to run errands, they will call in and say they have their period. Next week, in this example, when they get their period, they will go to work like normal because they don't want to call attention to the fact that they are just using it as a personal day. I never meant to say they don't actually get their periods.

[+]mwobuddy -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So the net difference is nil.

[–]definitelyjoking 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The difference is they don't need the day. They just steal extra days off.

[–]mwobuddy -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its like I say to you:

You get this cookie jar. It has 2x as many cookies as Tommy's. You can eat this cookie only for this reason, but we won't try to verify that reason or count.

And then you take all the cookies at once, but you don't then go into the pantry and take more cookies. At net, you still have only taken the allotted cookies given to you within the time frame, and therefore have not really stolen anything, just eaten them at the wrong time, but the effect is the same.

[–]hackableyou 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The point of the matter is that women don't need a period day like they may need the first months after delivering a baby. If you want to talk about the net result, the net result is women get 12 extra personal days per year because they have a vagina and we live in a society that benefits women.

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[–]dominotw 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

my ex used to take the kind where there were like 9 white ones and 1 brown one . You get your period when you take the brown one. But my ex never took the brown one, so she hasn't had period on like 7 years . wtf.

[–]icelander08 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That shit ain't healthy

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe she was really a man. That would explain it. The pills were just for show.

[–]lazydonovan 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

and the white ones were actually mints.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fresh breath is a priority in my life.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Seasonale. A nice option for women with abnormally painful periods or period-induced migraines, but it scares the hell out of me. If my equipment is designed to be flushed out monthly during my fertile years, what might happen if I stop that process?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cancer? I'm in California everything here causes cancer

[–]questionnmark 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your equipment was designed to get pregnant. Having 5* more periods than any point in known history is probably worse.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(Sigh) Probably. But amenorrhea secondary to pregnancy or lactation and amenorrhea secondary to flooding one's body with synthetic hormones (and not at the naural pregnancy/lactation levels) seem very different to me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no reason to bleed while on birth control. It's just a "mercy bleed". For some reason most women actually feel better getting light periods because of birth control than getting no period. Whereas I was glad when my doctor went "Yeah, I'm going to give you 5 boxes of birth control patches for your 15 week trip." I probably won't have periods while I'm in Europe, yay.

[–]muchachomalo 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think they should have them come in on the weekend to make it up. I mean that would make sense. I understand some women have it worst than others. But many it doesn't even affect.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why weekends? Some businesses don't even operate on weekends. It would make far more sense to do an extra hour and a half after work for a working week (to make for one day off).

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the comments, this truly isn't leave. The employees are expected to make up the time over the rest of the month, so it's a form of flex time.

With that in mind, it's a great idea ... as long as they make it available to anyone that has a recurring event they would prefer to offset by working longer on other days. Periods are hardly the only scheduled or predictable events people could potentially want to use this for. Do a twice monthly physio appointment that has you sore? Kid's seeing a psychologist a few days a month and you need to be there to take him/her? Senior care for your ailing grandmother? There's all sorts of stuff this would work for, so it really shouldn't be limited by gender or for a specific purpose.

[–]jimmywiddle 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Either this has nothing to do with periods and more about flexible working (which will have to be implemented for everyone, because thats the law in the UK).

Or this is a self sabotaging effort by feminists, which will inevitably hurt women more when employers are given yet another reason (they already have childbirth) to avoid hiring women because they will need even more special considerations.

[–]ChaosOpen 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't wait to see the uproar when they see their monthly paycheck and notice the people who didn't take a week off have a slightly larger one... then attribute it to sexism.

[–]HardKase 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A whole bunch of women working together. Wont they're cycles sync? The entire staff leaves the office at the same time

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A whole bunch of women working together. Wont they're cycles sync?

that's a persistent belief, but total myth. women's cycles don't sync.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It would work for the company in question because they only have 24 staff members and can work it out between themselves.

If it was a wide spread thing applied to other companies I could see it causing issues.

[–]questionnmark 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They're not taking more days off people. They're just taking different days off to coincide with their periods. In effect it's saying you can suffer on your own time, but at work you'll need to be productive.

[–]icelander08 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does it say in the article? Didn't see it, link the quote?

I mean this is asking for shitty workers to take advantage of. Women who respect themselves and the workplace won't take advantage of it anyways.

[–]questionnmark 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yep they shift the days off apparently. But they don't have extra days off.

[–]Funcuz 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So how's this going to work ? They're getting paid for not being at work but while they're gone somebody else is doing their job ? Am I to understand that the men not only have to take on their jobs while they're not at work but won't be compensated for it in any way ?

I'd love to say I was surprised but of course I'm not. I've never known a woman who couldn't just work through it as every woman has been doing since our species evolved but I'm not female so what do I know ? I know some women (a very small minority) get it really bad but then a doctor's note should be pretty easy to procure, shouldn't it ?

Whatever.

[–]Il128 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My mother is rolling in her grave.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can I get hangover-leave for (all) mondays? I'd be willing to meet half-way on this one.

[–]TheDude41 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

a

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why I crap at work. It's the only way to get parity.

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