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Men support more liberal abortion laws than women – even among Catholics

FromTheFarSouth

October 21, 2015
36 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2014/apr/30/why-are-women-more-opposed-to-abortion
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Title Men support more liberal abortion laws than women – even among Catholics
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FromTheFarSouth

Upvotes 36
Comments 18
Date October 21, 2015 7:51 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3pocq7/men_support_more_liberal_abortion_laws_than_women/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/men-support-more-liberal-abortion-laws-than-women.968922
https://theredarchive.com/post/968922
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[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[Archive of Article Here.]

 


Please think of archiving links to sites that are known to have biased and/or negative representations of men, masculinity, and men's rights -- i.e. The Guardian, Slate, The Telegraph, Cracked, BuzzFeed, Vox, Vice, Break, Bustle, Medium, Mic, Huffington Post, and so on. Or to articles and/or sources that may be controversial, which may be altered and/or removed because of our current culture of censorship. https://archive.is/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Martin Robbins calls himself "The Lay Scientist", but don't mistake him for a PUA writer. Some of his other work is discussed here.

Time, I think, for another classic Guardian sentence. A headline, in fact:

How can our future Mars colonies be free of sexism and racism?

The author of this latest ostentatious fretting session, Martin Robbins, is concerned by the “white and male race to conquer Mars.” The rest is pretty much what you’d imagine:

The first woman to be raped in space has probably already been born.

And,

The only population on Mars that we know of is a handful of rovers, but no doubt we’ll start a war anyway, before dragging them into some form of slavery or oppression. It’s just what we do.

And so on, and so forth.

As for the abortion issue, the Guardian logic is (1) men bad, (2) women good, (3) abortion good, (4) if more men than women support abortion it must be because (a) men are cads and deadbeats, (b) women are suffering from internalized misogyny.

I think there are two better reasons: (1) men are further away from the process, don't have the experience of a new life growing in their womb, and are less likely to question arms-length rationalizations about clumps of cells; (2) men know by now what opinion they're allowed to have about abortion.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You only need to look at the right for life organizations to see that anti-abortion activists and their supporters are overwhelmingly women.

[–]chavelah 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the same with anti-circ. I'm very much prochoice, but there is no doubt that females are the self-appointed crusaders for fetuses and babies. I don't want them to be LESS invested, but...

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh my god, why do all these women want to control women's bodies?

[–]cl3ft 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I'd control your stupid body if I could. But laws don't work that way, they control women's bodies. Put on a burkah and chop your glans off!

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Derp? Is that some sort of angry reply to my sarcastic post?

[–]Sasha_ -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't be against aborting feminists, if such a thing was possible.

[–]IcarusBurning 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Believe it or not, disagreeing with you doesn't mean someone doesn't deserve to exist.

[–]theDarkAngle 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also it doesn't give OP a pass to post potato-quality jokes

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's not just about 'disagreeing' though is it? It's about it being a toxic hate ideology. Men are disposable - always have been, and always will be. That's way we conscript them into wars. Any society can lose thousands, millions even, of men and still exist. You can't lose millions of women - otherwise you're society would stop existing.

Men are disposable - that's a simple fact of hunan biology. You only need one man to father countless children. This is way we don't value men. If I had one wish, it would be to eliminate from our society those how propogate racist, sexist ideologies - and I do believe these are transmitted by upbringing.

In short, don't fuck a feminist. No good can come from helping then reproduce.

[–]cl3ft 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

MRA can be painted with the same "toxic hate ideology" brush if you selectively read even the comments on this post like we selectively read feminist posts.

[–]Sasha_ 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, MRAs cannot be 'painted with the same brush' we don't make videos like this:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQSOlF9ZZM

We don't attack scientist because we don't like their shirts*, we're not attacking free speech like this lot:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

There's no MRA who's attacked an artist like Andy Warhol.

MRAs haven't killed anyone - feminists have. It's a vicious hate ideology - and we could do with a lot less of it.

*http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt

[+][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What planet are you living on? If the examples I've quoted are not representative of mainstream feminism, then no doubt you'll be able to provide examples of feminists disowning them.....{sound of crickets...}

You say attacking a scientist is OK because it 'stimulates a discussion' - are you serious? It's nothing of the kind - it's a toxic hate ideology.

By your logic when these bastards* are out demonstrating presumably that's just a 'healthy debate'? No it fucking isn't. Feminism is a hate ideology.

What the flying-fuck are you seriously arguing that MRAs make snuf-porn videos - are you remotely serious? No, MRAs don't do anything like that - you're just a fucking idiot.

*https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1lgu6m-BDE

[–]cl3ft 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're a great MRA I will take your comments to represent MRAs the same way MRAs take extremist freak feminists to represent all feminists.

You go boy. You "be you".

[–]FromTheFarSouth[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He was downvoted. Instead, "extremist freak" feminists are often supported by the so-called "moderates".

[–]dontpet -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Been reading men's rights for a while and this is a new one for me OP. Thanks for the post. Edit: a word, to satisfy my enthusiastic critic.

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