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Canada's new PM will make half of his cabinet women.

shrewdshrew

October 21, 2015
10 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/10/20/trudeaus-haul-of-184-mps-brings-smorgasbord-of-choices-for-cabinet.html
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Title Canada's new PM will make half of his cabinet women.
Author

shrewdshrew

Upvotes 10
Comments 13
Date October 21, 2015 12:58 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3pmltm/canadas_new_pm_will_make_half_of_his_cabinet_women/
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Comments

[–]brokedown 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can we make half of them gay too? I feel like we're not being fair if we don't have 50% gay cabinet members. Also, I think at least 50% of them should be left handed, it's so easy to unknowingly add right-bias to law if you don't have equal representation of southpaws.

[–]shrewdshrew[S] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Should be noted that while I don't take any issue with having the cabinet half women, or even entirely women, I do take issue with having members of the cabinet appointment because of their gender as opposed to their qualifications.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think anybody sane can see that's exactly what the problem is, it's only feminists who will claim otherwise and very disingenuously at that.

[–]BuddhistSC 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's funny, because if you did the same thing in any job that has an objective measure of success, you'd immediately see the negative results.

First example that comes to mind is competitive gaming, because it gives no physical advantage to males, yet invariably, there are very rarely any female players who come close to pro-level.

Imagine if an SC2 (or LoL or Chess even) tournament had the 16 best females and 16 best males compete. The top 16 spots would be 100% male.

It's not that women aren't capable of reaching the same level of skill as men, it's that they aren't necessarily inclined to do so. That applies to managing a nation as much as it applies to anything else. If you have to force your cabinet to be 50% women, instead of just finding the most qualified people and noticing after the fact that about 50% are female, then clearly women aren't as competitive in that field.

[–]Riddle0219 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but I don't think western politicians have a job that demands a high level of dedication and skill - Specially when you've dozens of ministers for every minuscule task and they can pretty much pretend to work when they don't. The issue I see, whether it is with Canadian, American, Australian or European politics is that you don't need very skillful people to make good politicians, you just need a good rhetoric and a shitton of people to help you out and avoid basic mistakes - In my country, there are no mandatory quotas for universities because it would lead to a high number of students failing classes constantly and obviously that's something no one wants because it leads to both people and the uni wasting their time and money.

[–]ExpendableOne 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's more of a number's game. The top 16 men isn't the the same as the top 16 women because the top 16 men represents the top 16 out of thousands, while the top 16 women represent the top 16 out of a hundred or less. The fact that so few women are actually interested in competing in these fields generally means that even the top women are still, generally speaking, about average when looking at the male pool of talent.

[–]BuddhistSC 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, that's what I was getting at in my last 2 paragraphs.

[–]kellast -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, my country is now run by a sjw who says that music is sexist and fakes falling down stairs as a party trick.

[–]ghebert001 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The aim should be for 100% qualified individuals...I don't care if they are 100% female so long as they got the job because they are the most qualified individuals.

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not again for fucks sake, Jeremy Corbyn just did this.

[–]v573v 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's sexist to consider gender as an asset or liability when hiring people.

[–]hatebosses 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Islam seems like a good choice right about now...

[–]insult_everything 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

by mandatory sex changes?

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