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Woman "fled" to Syria with her children to join ISIS. Now wants to come "home" back to UK. Describes "gangster", "killing" and "war" mentality of the ISIS women. Syria "Not a place for women & children".

Consilio_et_Animis

October 15, 2015
128 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://archive.is/t5XqA
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Title Woman "fled" to Syria with her children to join ISIS. Now wants to come "home" back to UK. Describes "gangster", "killing" and "war" mentality of the ISIS women. Syria "Not a place for women & children".
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Consilio_et_Animis

Upvotes 128
Comments 19
Date October 15, 2015 5:57 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3ovut7/woman_fled_to_syria_with_her_children_to_join/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-fled-to-syria-with-her-children-to-join-isis.969334
https://theredarchive.com/post/969334
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Comments

[–]somnambulator 30 points31 points32 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

When you make a decision in life there is no undo button.

Like men are told all the time "Suck it up".

[–]rg57 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Let's rescue the kids, though. It's not their fault she's a traitor.

[–]Allevil669 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's rescue the kids, though.

I don't really want to sound heartless, but no, don't "rescue" the kids. More likely than not, they are already radicalized, and would simply bring that radicalization back with them.

[–]Tedesche 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that's rather a big assumption to make. Besides, you really think they're less likely to become violent radicals if they're let back into the UK and separated from their crazy mom than if they're forced to stay with her and potentially be raised in a radical Muslim community? No, best to take them back and hang her out to dry. Leaving them with her just ensures your fears for them will come true.

[–]rg57 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rescue the kids. Send her back to Islamic State. She's a traitor.

[–]boringcarpets 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I almost cannot believe this story, i had to check other sources. Its pretty fucking unbelievable, the nerve of the woman! it beggars belief.

She couldnt manage the school run? She was thinking of the children's futures? Absurd.

From The Telegraph:

She said: "I want to make clear to other Isis women that you can't expect to come into Isis territory and then leave. There is no personal autonomy."

No. fucking. shit. i could have told you that from here.

"I would love to go back to the UK. The UK is my home, it is where I grew up and where my family and friends are."

shouldnt have left to hang out with isis you moron, taking your kids to a warzone. But, knowing the pandering types in the UK she'll be let right back in no problems

[–]Consilio_et_Animis[S] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can tell my listening to her, she is very well educated, and she is shown in her university degree photograph. So she's being very clever in her story and language.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But, knowing the pandering types in the UK she'll be let right back in no problems

With a little tax-funded starting help of course.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis[S] 26 points27 points28 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've posted this in /r/mensrights because it raises a number of relevant issues:

How women who join ISIS are treated differently to men by the west. e.g.: Free pussy passes all round.

Clearly, women can be just as evil and war-mongering as men.

Why does this women think that Syria under ISIS is a "place" for men, but not for "women and children"?

She's lying through her teeth. She went to join ISIS, and now wants a gold plated pussy pass to return "home".

[–]MakingItWorthit 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This kinda thing I would expect to see in nottheonion.

[–]devilsadvocate09 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like this would do well in r/nottheonion as well.

[–]thegreyhoundness 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a fucking game. You can't just say, ah I thought I wanted to be a football fan, but I guess I'm just really a cricket person after all. How sheltered and accustomed to being protected and pandered to do you have to be to do something liked this? This is really our fault I guess. We've babied and excused the bad behavior of people (especially women) such as this delusional idiot and now they're used to it. She should be denied reentry and sent back to Syria. And we need to change our behavior. Nuts.

[–]thalos3D 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

During the 20's and 30's many westerners 'fled' to the new workers' paradise in the Soviet Union. Those who weren't imprisoned and/or killed generally wanted to return 'home' too. They became some of the best witnesses to the realities of the Soviet Union at a time when many Western intellectuals were flirting with the awesomeness of totalitarianism. I think the parallels are striking.

[–]nmatrix9 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this from the Onion?

[–]Wargame4life 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the kids can come back, but that bitch can rot in hell and get fucked and killed by the isis warlords because she is dead to us

[–]fireinthedarkness -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't get it... It says right in the article she fled to see her husband and whatever, ive read other articles that said she went to get her husband back and he plainly said no. Why is it such a bad thing she wants to come back? Why does everyone assume she's lying? Maybe she's a bit dumb and didnt realise its a fucking warzone... Shes an idiot but she doesnt deserve to get stuck there...

[–]Consilio_et_Animis[S] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She is absolutely not dumb. She is very bright and articulate, and from the photo in the video she has a university degree.

The article is just repeating what she is saying.

If it was a male, no one would believe his lies that he went over there to find his wife etc.

Why take FIVE children, including a baby all the way to Syria, to meet their father who is obviously an evil killer? No. She went there because she thought is was going to be cool and fun, and now she's trying to back out.

Sorry, we don't issue PussyPasses at /r/mensrights!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasn't smart in any capacity, but seeing your children in person may have been viewed as a more potent way of proving a point.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis[S] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True. But any even reasonably intelligent person would weigh that against taking FIVE children into a battle zone, and the known impossibility of returning back to the UK at will.

So no PussyPass for her.

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