Sorry, ladies, there really is a man shortage | New York Post

iainmf · 2015-08-31T04:55:18+00:00

I made this picture to demonstrate this.

Ultramegasaurus · 2015-08-31T05:20:27+00:00

I love how these articles always completely ignore non-college-educated men. As if it's a motherfucking axiom that a man has to be college-educated to be worth a woman's time.

I mean, women can have whatever standards they want, but I'm sick of them pretending they're doomed to be forever alone when they exclude the majority of the male population from the start.

HotZone_ · 2015-08-31T02:02:51+00:00

~~Man shortage~~ Rich man shortage.

The lack of self-awareness and self-reflection in these articles is astounding.

It’s not your fault. It’s the ratio.

No, no, god forbid women take responsibility for anything. Blame? Unthinkable!

I give this piece credit however for including the following:

“None of this would matter if we were open-minded about who we dated,” Birger says. “The problem is, Americans — both men and women — have become more rigid about dating across socioeconomic boundaries.”

To find a mate, college-educated women should consider dating working-class men.

So, so close...but Birger couldn't help but say "both men and women." No. Men are shallow when it comes to looks. Women are shallow when it comes to looks, social status and earnings. Why wouldn't they be? They are the "gatekeepers to sex," after all.

The hilarious thing about the supposed "man shortage" is that feminists are making the problem progressively worse. The more they artificially inflate women's earnings and status, the more that successful women find themselves unable [unwilling, rather] to find a suitable partner.

The logical thing to do would be to create a whole slew of educational programs and employment programs for men, or at least to eliminate preferential treatment for women. That would allow women to find their perceived "equals"/superiors to date/marry. But then no one ever accused feminists of being logical.

Feminism has failed miserably. Women are unhappier than ever. Men are being left behind. All in the name of "equality", which is in fact female supremacy.

All of these problems could be solved if feminists were willing to admit error. But like spoiled children, they pout and whine and insist that nothing is ever their fault.

Edit: hilarious that this was downvoted in Men'sRights. Think we have some feminist lurkers? ;)

ju87 · 2015-08-30T23:55:18+00:00

Where have all the good (tall, college-educated, moderately ambitious, successful, wealthy, fit, handsome, provisioned, single, and available) men gone?

2015-08-31T07:32:53+00:00

So smart men aren't marrying or getting into relationships...what does that tell you.

SlashSero · 2015-08-31T12:05:17+00:00

This goes hand in hand with the outcries of 'all men are at the top' and 'patriarchy'. They really do only take the men at the top into consideration, the average man is invisible to the modern woman.

_-_Dan_-_ · 2015-08-31T10:58:54+00:00

Two things this odds game doesn't seem to address: 1. the different 'quality' in the market at different stages, and 2. the age preferences/range men and women look for.

1) Even if you look only at college educated people, the ones who remain unmarried might not be "marrying material" (BTW, for those saying men aren't objectified, what exactly does a phrase like "marrying material" mean?).

And even with a smaller pool when it comes to men, I think it also applies to women (perhaps even more so).

So, it's not only the odds of college educated men vs women, it's also the question of compatibility. Mutual attraction, shared life goals, etc. Esp. if men keep their status as gatekeepers of long-term relationships (here's hoping for Vasagel to close one 'shortcut' a few women might be willing to take).

2) I have seen many men dating younger women (~10 years), and -- esp. during their twenties -- many women preferring somewhat older men (also ~10 years). If this is an actual global preference, then the situation may be even worse for women. The sexual market value changes differently for men and women and the average woman might be outclassed by her younger competition.

Anyway, in the end, even with an odds game, it's how often you play (you don't lose much more than time on bad dates) and how well. And any woman playing with that looming sword of Damocles in her mind would probably worse off. Desperation is not an attractive quality. Nor the mindset of "I just need a man because I don't want to be single/unmarried anymore."

And sure, it's nice to be pursued, but because of interest in the individual, not "to finally catch something". Not sure how many single women can switch gears here and go for men instead of waiting in vain for them.

tallwheel · 2015-08-31T05:30:46+00:00

The Book Referenced in the article looks like pretty legit dating advice for women. It accurately identifies the issues of the female-male imbalance in colleges and educated people in general, and the pitfalls of women putting off marriage till their 30's. If I wanted to give serious dating advice to a woman in this 'market' I'd probably give similar information.

Wargame4life · 2015-08-31T13:48:27+00:00

as a non-married athletic college educated man with a good job i love these articles.

precisely because i know those that sift based on college degree actually send a red flag to those with college degrees that would other wise would have considered them.

its like being 6'4 and ignoring a woman because she stated "must be 6ft+" the simple fact that you think there is a rigid metric that instantly means its discountable shows you as neurotic entitled and selfish, and even though your selection criteria doesn't impact my chances it impacts yours with me.

also the whole concept of this book is complete horseshit.

if men and woman are roughly equal in number and each man "off the market" also corresponds to his partner "off the market" there cannot be loads of "single looking women" and "few eligable men" unless people cheat and have multiple partners or through different age demographics there is different demand etc.

and that is exactly what happens, men and women have identical supply and demand summed overall, but womens demand in their youth, is an inevitable consequence of older decline and lack of demand

blueoak9 · 2015-08-31T05:20:05+00:00

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Title	Sorry, ladies, there really is a man shortage \| New York Post
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Date	August 30, 2015 11:44 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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