Malawi: Circumcision RAISES risk of HIV infection

Sanguifer · 2015-08-08T12:20:40+00:00

Bullshit one way doesn't magically become less bullshit the other way.

Circumcision doesn't raise the risk of contracting HIV, telling people that it reduces the risk does. People gonna be "why should I spend money on condoms, I got circumcised, everyone is telling me that protects me from aids amirite?".

ezetemp · 2015-08-08T13:16:08+00:00

No shit. Of all the things that will end up looking like neo-colonial abhorrent human rights violations, the circumcision campaigns and entirely predictable HIV transmission increase has to be the worst.

The worst part is it's never been about HIV in Africa, it's just been a stray thread of US and EU politics surrounding circumcision. And pressuring people to get genitally mutilated by letting them believe it will let them sleep around without using condoms, just so you can deflect criticism against your own custom of violating children's rights to their own body is truly behaviour that falls within the realm of actual evil.

645645sdgdsfd65445 · 2015-08-09T01:12:21+00:00

Was watching this video of a shark being finned alive and you could see the pain; started wondering what it must feel like to have part of you torn off and you'll never get it back.

Most people have a difficult time accepting what circumcision really is. The implications of its allowance are just too much. It's terrifying, a culture controlling sexuality through the removal of body parts.

Consilio_et_Animis · 2015-08-08T15:35:36+00:00

Even if there is some truth to the claim that MGM reduces the risk of HIV infection; this doesn't excuse the lies that are told to these African men.

They are not informed about the functions, structures and properties of the male foreskin. They are not showed the compelling evidence that they are losing the most sensitive part of the penis, and that the amputation will cause loss of sensation and major function.

Then they are told barefaced lies: "women prefer it [so what if they do?]", "it's cleaner", "it's the western [ie: Amercian] thing to do", "it's the love cut", "you will be a real man".

Such lies and misinformation would be totally unethical in the west, and would be illegal.

Disgusting modern day mental slavery.

Insula92 · 2015-08-08T21:08:18+00:00

Who'd have thought amputating random body parts weren't a health benefit? Amazing revelations science brings us these days.

azazelcrowley · 2015-08-08T18:21:43+00:00

It's both a more and a less useful study than that.

Less useful because it's telling people that it helps with HIV that raises the risk, not the circumcision itself. (It makes people think they must be resistant to aids, when that's not true.)

More useful because it means we can now go rules for radicals on the pro-circumcisers and call them pro-aids and point out this study if they lie about this shit.

babno · 2015-08-08T17:58:04+00:00

Correlation != causation. Sanguifier's explanation that people believing they are protected being circumcised does seem like a much more likely reason.

Title	Malawi: Circumcision RAISES risk of HIV infection
Author	Ultramegasaurus
Upvotes	81
Comments	12
Date	August 8, 2015 11:18 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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