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Lumberjack: America's Deadliest Profession

xNOM

June 15, 2015
61 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://priceonomics.com/how-the-lumberjack-became-such-a-deadly-profession/
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Title Lumberjack: America's Deadliest Profession
Author

xNOM

Upvotes 61
Comments 16
Date June 15, 2015 11:23 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/39z3it/lumberjack_americas_deadliest_profession/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/lumberjack-americas-deadliest-profession.977548
https://theredarchive.com/post/977548
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Comments

[–]Blitzsturm 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Wait a minute... you you're telling me with all the police shootings going on justified by police saying their job is so dangerous they can't take chances, that fucking Taxi drivers have 70% more deaths per capita? Or truck drivers at 220% more deaths person capita?

[–]WhiteThrone 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Using the police reasoning and applying it to the truck drivers, shouldn't truckers be allowed to ram cars off the road if the car presents a threat to them. Because the truckers job is so insanely dangerous that the trucker is justified in clearing away the 'un-roadworthy' drivers.

God, I think I just channeled Mad Max or something.

[–]electricalnoise 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I kinda dig this. Next time a cop tells me how dangerous their job is I'm gonna say "I'm a roofer, bitch". Stop them dead in their tracks lol

[–]Blitzsturm 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

May want to bring a printout of the graph. And a camera.

[–]saka07 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You're more likely to survive a gunshot than being crushed by a giant log. About 90% of all gunshot victims survive their wounds, and police often wear body armor. If you took all injury statistics instead, police officers would be closer to the top, while still being safer than nursing assistants and orderlies (apparently because of handling all the obese patients).

[–]mariox19 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you took all injury statistics instead, police officers would be closer to the top

What are you talking about? Are you saying the statistics about on-the-job deaths of police are counting only gunshot wounds? That's just not the case.

[–]saka07 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm using gunshots as a general case. Police are just as likely to get shot, stabbed, hit by traffic, and so on than a logger is likely to have a tree fall on him, or have a chain saw break and decapitate him, or whatever else my happen. However, when the policeman DOES get injured, 9/10 he'll live. When the tree DOES fall on the logger, or he gets hit by malfunctioning machinery, he might have a 50/50 chance. Statistically speaking, if you have 10 injured policemen, and 4 injured loggers, you have 1 dead policeman, and 2 dead loggers, therefore logging is more deadly, but that doesn't mean police work is safe. I'm just illustrating that both jobs are pretty dangerous, even if 1 is comparatively deadly, doesn't mean the other on is safe.

Also, consider that the numbers that people use to show that police work is "not dangerous" quotes 2013 numbers, which is actually a record setting low number, and hasn't happened since 1959, back when the US population was about half of today. Considering that 27 cops died in 2013, 51 cops died in 2014, and 44 have already died this year while we're pretty much at only the halfway mark, they're pretty much racing up that list (not that its a contest that anyone wants to win). I have a ton of respect for craftsmen and physical laborers such as loggers. I have a buddy who used to be a logger. Said he wasn't always completely sober when showing up to work, which if that is common might contribute some to the fatality numbers.

And on a note about hospital workers getting injured left and right from lifting heavy objects (patients), as a volunteer nursing assistant, I never realized it, but it makes plenty of sense. Not too many healthy people need to use the hospital, so we get plenty of ham beasts that can really injure you if you are unable to transport them properly. I remember some obese lady passed out in our emergency room recently. We had trouble trying to fit her on the largest patient transfer board we had, and it took some of the biggest guys we had to lift her up.

[–]Blitzsturm 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd think they'd have a system down to know what direction a giant log would fall and various other safety protocols. So I assume most of the major injuries and deaths are attributed long work hours, low sleep and people not thinking clearly when they happen. I know my job is much more difficult when I'm extremely tired.

I'd be curios to see a more detailed table breaking out injuries, maiming and fatalities by occupation then a breakout of most common causes akin to what was included in the linked article for lumberjacks. I'd bet it would show some surprising sources of injury.

[–]saka07 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't tell if that one comment by Steve Macdonald is real or if he is a true edge lord:

"You know what? Good. Logging should be dangerous. Trees growing in forests are living things enjoying a free existence in the wild, exactly as do elk, grizzly bears, bald eagles, and aboriginal peoples. When we invade their wilderness to kill wantonly and irresponsibly, either the flora or the fauna, we deserve to risk the karmic retalitation. Live by the chainsaw, die by the chainsaw."

[–]dungone 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Poe's law

[–]PuffyHerb 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see someone else has been watching Siberian Cut.

[–]xNOM[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, but after googling it now I want to :-)

[–]lumberjackninja 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to see it broken down by type of lumberjack.

[–]xNOM[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What are the types?

[–]dungone 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some use an axe, others seem to prefer karate chops.

[–]fozzie1984 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

3rd most dangerous!best sort my life insurance out then.

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