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‘A silent issue’: Researchers say 1 in 3 teen boys attempt suicide after being sexually assaulted

da1inchpunch

April 14, 2015
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/a-silent-issue-researchers-say-1-in-3-teen-boys-attempt-suicide-after-being-sexually-assaulted/
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Title ‘A silent issue’: Researchers say 1 in 3 teen boys attempt suicide after being sexually assaulted
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da1inchpunch

Upvotes 206
Comments 21
Date April 14, 2015 9:03 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/32jlmz/a_silent_issue_researchers_say_1_in_3_teen_boys/
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Comments

[–]SilencingNarrative 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

In the article we have this:

Girls certainly experience the majority of sexual assault incidences; only one in 10 victims is a boy, according to the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network (RAINN).

Clicking on the RAINN link takes me to a page with this:

Men and boys are often the victims of the crimes of sexual assault, sexual abuse, and rape. In fact, in the U.S., about 10% of all victims are male.1

And, further down, they list 1in6 as another organization they are supportive of:

Other Organizations

1in6 MaleSurvivor

And on the 1in6 website we have this:

What happens to any of us as children does not need to define us as adults or men. It is important to remember that that 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused before age 18 (see The 1 in 6 Statistic), and that those boys can grow up to be strong, powerful, courageous and healthy men.

So, RAINN is claiming that 1 in 10 sexual assault victims are male (so 9 out of 10 are female), while 1in6 is claiming that 1 in 6 males are sexually abused before 18. Taking those together, we have, assuming roughly equal number of males and females in soceity, 9 out of every 6 females being victims of sexual assault.

I suspect there is a power struggle going on inside RAINN with some factions wanting the abuse of men to be taken seriously, while others can't let go of the idea that sexual violence is gendered. So we get organizations talking out of both sides of their mouth.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. The 1 in 10 statistic isn't limited to under 18s. It could drop off in adulthood more steeply in men than in women.

[–]SilencingNarrative 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

That is even more absurd, in the direction I am complaining about, because then 1in6 is a lower bound on the fraction of males that were assaulted (1 in 6 is just the number that were assaulted by the time they turned 18, raise the age of assault to be higher, and an even larger percentage of males would have been assaulted).

That would mean that not only had 9 out of 6 females been assaulted, but possibly even more than that!

I believe my point, that their math is absurdly inconsistent, stands.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

1/6 men are assaulted before age 18

1 in 10 assaults are against men

Here's one possible way that both of those statements could be true.

Age range Chance of assault on men Chance of assault on women
1-6 0.0590 0.1179
7-12 0.0590 0.1179
13-18 0.0590 0.1297
19-24 0.0197 0.2594
15-30 0.0066 0.2476
31-36 0.0022 0.2359
37-42 0.0007 0.2176
43-48 0.0002 0.2123
49-54 0.0001 0.2024
55-60 0.0001 0.1179

These numbers came out of my ass. The point isn't whether they're true or not, just that they could be, because if they were the statements would be true.

(1-0.0590)x(1-0.0590)x(1-0.0590)=0.8332 Meaning 83% (5/6) men make it to age 18 without experiencing sexual assault.

The sum of all the probabilities of men is 0.2064, and it's 1.8587 for women, about 9 times as much, which accounts for the 9 in 10 sexual assaults that occur on women.

Factor in the under-reporting of sexual assault being far more prevalent in men, and I don't think it's that far fetched.

Of course this could be far from the truth. Maybe there are inaccuracies in the statistics and you're right. That's totally possible. It's just not certain.

[–]SilencingNarrative 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

You picked 10 age ranges and assigned a probability that a randomly selected male would be sexually assaulted during that period. Let's call these p1, ..., p10. The probability that a man who has reached age 31 (who's passed through periods 1-5) would have been assaulted by that age is 1 - (1-p1)(1-p2)(1-p3)(1-p4)(1-p5)=, not p1+p2+p3+p4+p5.

The analysis you are trying to do is to figure out the lifetime percentage of men and women that were sexually assaulted at some point. You can't simply add the probabilities the way you are doing.

You would need to do two things. Make an assumption about how the male and female populations are distributed among those time periods, and model the constant time nature of the risk inside a period.

If we assume that the male and female populations are evenly divided among those time periods, and that each person aged 1-6 just turned 6, each person aged 7-12 just turned 12, and so on (to avoid having to deal with the within-a-period modelling), then we arrive at the following lifetime victim percentages for men and women:

percentage of men abused: 16.667886 percentage of women abused: 58.253926

Which would give you 1 in 5 abused being men, not 1 in 9.

Here's my calculation as a python program:

pm = [0.0590, 0.0590, 0.0590, 0.0197, 0.0066, 0.0022, 0.0007, 0.0002, 0.0001, 0.0001]

pw = [0.1179, 0.1179, 0.1297, 0.2594, 0.2476, 0.2359, 0.2176, 0.2123, 0.2024, 0.1179]

def f(px):

x= 1

for p in px:

 x*= 1-p 

return x

def g(px):

sum= 0.0

for i in range(0,len(px)):

 sum+= 1 - f(px[:i+1]) 

return sum/len(px)

print "percentage of men abused: %f" % (g(pm)*100.0,)

print "percentage of women abused: %f" % (g(pw)*100.0,)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

1 in 5 abused being men, not 1 in 5 assaults. Count assaults instead of victims. My numbers check out.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That does happen to some women. And some men. Why would you think that it doesn't?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Everybody was below 18 at some point. If everybody had to pass through that statistic then it can't get any lower.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't have to get lower. Both statistics can be true together as they are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're not mutually exclusive: the 1/6 is about only men, the 1/10 is about both men and women.

[–]LUClEN 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

How did you get 9 out of 6?

[–]SilencingNarrative 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I am showing that you cant both have 1 in 6 men sexually assaulted by age 18 and only 1 in 10 sexual assault victims be male. They jointly imply 9 in 6 women have been sexually assaulted.

[–]LUClEN 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But how did you arrive at that number? Would you be able to show the math? I'm not quite following how you figured it out.

[–]jojotmagnifficent 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I assume 9/10ths of total lifetime victims being women means that 9x as many victims are women as men (i.e 9 women are raped for every man that is raped). If 1/6 men are raped by 18, that means AT LEAST 1/6 men are raped in their lives (assuming no man is ever raped after they turn 18, any that are would only increase the portion of men raped in their lifetime). If we assume that the population of men and women are equal (close enough) then 9 x 1/6 = 9/6, which is the number of women getting raped out of the total number of women.

The only logical way I can think of is that these two statistics (1/10 and 1/6) can exist side by side is if they are not directly comparable due to not being derived similarly, i.e. 1/10 doesn't account for unreported rapes while 1/6 does through some magical imaginary means.

[–]LUClEN 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for replying. That makes more sense to me.

Why are we multiplying by 9 though? Is it because 9/10 of all victims are female?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Annnnnnd it's gone.

[–]KingAchelexus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's gone?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His point

[–]yelirbear 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the article: "33.2 percent of teen boys with a sexual assault history who reported attempting suicide, only 27.1 percent of teen girls with a similar history reported a suicide attempt". So although more boys will attempt suicide after sexual assault than girls the effect is pretty much the same. This is why we have age of consent laws.

[–]franticantelope 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was molested as a kid, and the lack of support is staggering. All the support groups I have access too are female only, and the two mental health professionals I've reached out too didn't know how to help me. Minimized it, that sort of thing.

I have to say it's this lack of help that's far more damaging than the initial assault. It's like an injury- it hurts and it'll leave a scar but if you treat it you'll be mostly fine. But if you ignore it, it gets infected and it's much worse. I did try to kill myself a few years ago, and while I still think about it frequently the possibility of help in the future makes me keep going for now.

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