Hey, Ladies: Nothing Is Accomplished By Nagging and Complaining About Men

carchamp1 · 2015-03-17T17:02:26+00:00

Women want Prince Charming who will buy her nice things and take a bullet for her should it come to that. But, invariably, they want to be loved for "who they are." The problem is too many of those Prince Charming guys got their asses handed to them in so-called "family" court. Screw it. Bring on the video games.

kizzan · 2015-03-17T17:45:48+00:00

Men are lectured about their all around suckiness so much that it’s practically become a national pastime

I could not have put that better myself.

Lucius_Martius · 2015-03-17T20:52:38+00:00

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Wargame4life · 2015-03-17T20:31:02+00:00

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2015-03-17T20:05:02+00:00

Guys have given us no choice but to be self-sufficient and self- reliant.

This is a complaint?!?!? It is something to be happy about for the love of whatever twisted God you believe in!

MonkeyCB · 2015-03-17T23:25:35+00:00

There's still a lot of subtle shaming language against men in that article. But the fact is that men are finally abandoning their gender roles, and women don't like it. Men didn't get a choice when women did it over 50 years ago, and for that period of time women got to have their cake and eat it too. They got to abandon their gender roles while men maintained theirs. And now they're freaking out because there's no more cake.

Well though shit. Nobody complains to you about watching all those stupid shows on TV, or spending so much mind numbing time on social media ladies. And I don't see men giving up video games anytime soon, same goes for the porn. If men prefer spending their time watching porn and playing video games instead of with women, then women must be doing something wrong.

And finally, nobody seems to criticize these women for being in the so called "friend zone". When men get denied dates, it's because they're losers complaining about the "friend zone" and they feel "entitled" to women's bodies. What about this? Does this woman (and all the others screaming "where have all the good men gone") not feel entitled to men? She feels entitled to the fact that a man needs to date her. Provide for her. Marry her. Give her children. And allow her to take care of the children while he works overtime.

It's the 21st century ladies. You're going to have to grow up, adapt, and put your amazing selves and minds to work. I don't see men saving you this time around, so you win. You finally got the responsibility (and burden) to figure out your own place in life, walk your own path, and decide where you end up. Good luck, and have fun.

2015-03-18T00:14:04+00:00

Holding men accountable? For what?

If a man wants to play video games, look at porn, hold down a job that's enough to keep him comfortable and enjoy his life the way he wants, what is exactly is he to be held accountable for? And by whom?

Why is it that "men" are expected to be all ambition and drive and dive head first into the cesspool of the social and financial rat race lest they be labeled "man children" or whatever new pejorative people come up with to shame them into conforming? Why is that the case when women are lauded for being able to choose whatever kind of life they prefer?

bluescape · 2015-03-18T08:46:39+00:00

I couldn't get through it. I'm fairly certain I've seen this guy's writing before (his pic looked really familiar) and he's just so incredibly self righteous it hurts.

Look, I'm better than those losers playing video games, but you shouldn't berate them.

Really dude? Your self description is "blogger, writer, speaker, and professional truth sayer". That's a way of saying "have no skills" but in more words; which would be fine if you weren't a Voltron of writer and religious pretension.

Ell_Djej · 2015-03-17T17:29:33+00:00

I am one of the "pathetic, shiftless, effeminate, video game obsessed couch potatoes", and I thought this was a really good read. I want to fill you in on my perspective. What the article doesn't mention is that "we" are this way because we can, and I even tell myself that this is what I want. I actually have a girlfriend and yes, she complains a lot! I could definitely improve, but I really don´t care!

Deansdale · 2015-03-18T10:50:12+00:00

Simplest answer ever: if video games are more fun than you, well, it's not our fault. Be worthy of the attention you so sorely demand and you will get it. Until then you can sod off, we are free individuals freely deciding what to do with our lives. If you don't like it, tough luck. Is it our job to accommodate your desires? Nope. You seem to have forgotten that relationships are two sided deals. You have to offer something we want in order to get what you want.

2015-03-17T23:15:15+00:00

If some men became "pathetic, shiftless, effeminate, video game obsessed couch potatoes", it's because their oh so beloved feminism allowed us to do so. Women got more empowered and joined the workforce, so they relieved us of the burden of being the only breadwinners in a household. Thus, we can relax a bit more.

lost_garden_gnome · 2015-03-17T18:09:40+00:00

Excellently written piece. I've run into (what I feel like is) more than my share of spoiled, entitled brats. Of both and/or all genders (yes, we see you who don't feel like you fit in right, you stay different, it's better when folks are a little different). Granted, spoiled girls and spoiled boys tend to show it in different ways, but the results are fairly similar, a person that few people want to be around, but not understanding why so few others care to be around them.

I would tell Melissa two things: 1. be the change you want to see and 2. the work IS the reward (that and a stiff drink after a job ~~well~~ done).

I want to see more men in education, so I am strongly considering going into the field. Granted, I have an interview in an upper high school maths/science position later this week (I'm not just blowing smoke here, I'm going after it), not the early childhood ed I want to see more men going into, but really that's what I'm better at.

blueoak9 · 2015-03-17T20:29:31+00:00

They want men, not boys? That's for women, not a bunch of spoiled girls. They aren't worthy of men. They are spoiled, rancid , high maintenance Entitlement Princesses - in other words, sub-adults.

Then there is the whole litany of how wonderful these "women" are and how un responsive these men are. This sounds familiar - sense of being used, sense of sexual entitlement - isn't that what feminists sneeringly call a Nice Guy?

Walsh talks about holding men accountable. Fine. I hoped I just missed the part where he talks about holding women accountable.

2015-03-17T17:55:03+00:00

In other news, water is wet!

2015-03-18T03:32:13+00:00

That's a fundamental difference in communication between men and women, and one that's very prominent in these types of discussions. Women love to vent. Endlessly and pointlessly. They don't want solutions. They just want to be heard and understood, and don't really seem to care if their problems actually get dealt with. And if they do, they'll make up plenty others to fill that void.

It reminds me of the book 'men are from mars, women from venus' that does a great job illustrating the female need to vent. I wish someone with more knowledge of psychology etc did a more in depth study of that and the link with gender politics. Might be quite interesting.

Title	Hey, Ladies: Nothing Is Accomplished By Nagging and Complaining About Men
Author	prive8
Upvotes	124
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Date	March 17, 2015 3:31 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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