A Voice for who?: The Gryphon investigates Male Rights Activism

dungone · 2015-02-27T21:20:35+00:00

Ally Fogg's modus operandi is to apologize for feminism and issue misleading concern trolls against the MRM. He's been making the same dire warnings for many years now and the only thing that's happened in the interim is that feminists have suffered from numerous publicity blowbacks while the MRM's arguments have become steadily more difficult to deny.

Let's take a look at Ally Fogg's approach to the UVA scandal. First, he tried to side-skirt the entire issue of the feminist-led attack on due process by claiming that just because the UVA hoax completely fell apart, it doesn't absolutely prove that "something" bad didn't happen. But what it did prove is the importance of due process, whether against an individual or an entire group of men. Somehow, the negative publicity that the hoax brought onto the feminist community is somehow the MRM's fault, as though a little bit of due process couldn't have prevented it to begin with.

Second, he denied that feminism had anything to do with the hoax, implying that it was Rolling Stone's fault for engaging in "click bait" journalism. When in fact the left-wing publication, the journalist, the accuser, and the campus rape-crisis organizer who brought them all together were all feminists. The hoax was feminist activism at work, the "always believe the accuser" doctrine blowing up in their face as per usual.

But here he is, a few weeks later, claiming that it's demonstrably false that feminism is creating any of the problems that are faced by men and boys.

ckiemnstr345 · 2015-02-28T02:09:43+00:00

Did anyone else notice that "misogynist" and "anti-feminism" were used together frequently, implying that the terms are interchangeable? Clearly anyone who debates feminist ideals must be a misogynist. /s

wazzup987 · 2015-02-27T23:07:21+00:00

Fog knows well that we don't blame feminism for things that feminism is not responsible for.

His real issue with the mens movement is that its not mobilised for left wing partisan politics.

chavelah · 2015-02-28T01:04:12+00:00

I didn't know Janet could be that diplomatic :-)

Penuno · 2015-02-28T15:25:49+00:00

Don't know what the Gryphon is. But well written civil comments don't survive more than 24 hours there.

Title	A Voice for who?: The Gryphon investigates Male Rights Activism
Author	desmay
Upvotes	19
Comments	15
Date	February 27, 2015 7:58 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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