A good way to show someone who doesn't believe male sexism exists that it does?

ShitlordAndProud · 2014-10-27T10:09:42+00:00

How about, "It's sexist to believe sexism can only be directed against women."

SageofVictor · 2014-10-27T09:33:43+00:00

Normal people are still sleeping. If I hadn't just finished my cobol project I'd help you out. I'm hoping this comment will boost your post up a tad

jo939 · 2014-10-27T09:44:04+00:00

State how the law will force fathers to pay child support for a child that is not theirs' even with DNA evidence. That if a man loses his job and can no longer pay alimony/child support, then he is still responsible for paying up both. That if a man earns more he pays more in alimony/child support. Tell them that if the man marries another woman, her income will now contribute to child support/alimony. That in many states a woman doesn't need to work if she has custody of her child, thanks to government assistance but that a man must often prove he can support the child financially or else not get the child. Or maybe that when a boy is raped, that he will have to pay child support for any child born out of the rape. I think that one and paternity fraud are really good, because it makes it clear of the injustice.

2014-10-27T11:53:47+00:00

Women have a greater sentencing privilege than white people.

The real meaning of privilege, is legal privileges.

GenderNeutralLanguag · 2014-10-27T14:21:38+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikd0ZYQoDko

2014-10-27T15:58:53+00:00

Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.

Someone who "doesn't believe" in sexism against men is nearly a lost cause, because even if they are otherwise happy and normal people, they are still prejudiced bigots, in the same way a grandparent can be casually racist and not even know what they are saying is completely fucked and horrible.

However, you could very well go to your person, OP, and remind them that gravity exists whether they "believe" in it or not.

_-_Dan_-_ · 2014-10-27T21:03:16+00:00

Don't get side-tracked by definitions that tie sexism to gender or power. Just go by taking the gender of a person as a positive or negative. And then ask the person whether this person has ever based something not on what was said or done by a person but on the gender of the person. E.g. "You don't know what it's like, you're a man." or "Stop mansplaining."

Of course you can also go for the point that if there is sexism against (or for) women, then the reverse must be true for men. If women are disadvantaged, men must be advantaged -- and vice versa. You can ask, e.g. whether the person thinks that women are wonderful (interesting bias, see Wikipedia) and that this must mean that men are (at least) not that wonderful (otherwise it would have been people are wonderful.

Other issues are e.g. men valued on strength & courage, money & height, suck at languages, only want one thing, etc. The specific form of prejudice are different, but nevertheless for any category you find sexism also directed at men (here: men languages, women: math).

Of course, the other preson might say that these are not examples of sexism/prejudice but just facts ... ;-)

DavidByron2 · 2014-10-27T23:45:40+00:00

If they're male you could just call the cops on them I suppose.

guywithaccount · 2014-10-28T05:02:05+00:00

If possible, make them male.

If not, show them how sexism has harmed their father, brother, husband or son. Note that this is only likely to work if whoever it is really got screwed badly.

If you're asking for a compelling piece of evidence... well if that was all it took, you wouldn't have to ask.

Ultramegasaurus · 2014-10-27T11:02:47+00:00

http://imgur.com/LIDiycm

Title	A good way to show someone who doesn't believe male sexism exists that it does?
Author	Thebacklash
Upvotes	5
Comments	24
Date	October 27, 2014 8:40 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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