Texas Judge Refuses To Allow Names Of Gay Dads To Appear On Their Own Biological Children’s Birth Certificates

BlindPelican · 2014-06-23T11:11:43+00:00

This is outrageous. If the Supreme Court can strike down prohibitions against interracial marriages based on Full Faith and Credit, why has prohibition against same sex marriage not been challenged in the same way yet? Is it simply too new a concept?

YetAnotherCommenter · 2014-06-23T16:09:39+00:00

Only the surrogate mother — who has no biological ties to the children, since the embryos were transferred to her — is on the boys’ birth certificates. The fathers are not legally defined as the parents of their own children. And when they petitioned to have this corrected, the judge, who had full authority to fix the error, said no.

First off, this says something interesting about our society's reverence for women's bearing of children - the surrogate bore the children and is defined as the mother even though she is not the genetic mother of the children. This is quite interesting to say the least.

Second, if my reading is correct then neither of these men - the genetic fathers of the children - are named as father on either birth certificate. In both this situation and the situation of the surrogate mother, DNA contribution is seen as not enough to establish a parent/child connection, but bearing the child in the womb IS. Golden Uterus Complex?

Obviously, the biological fathers whom have adopted the kids should be listed as the father of their biological children, obviously. They made the male contribution of genetic material.

I'm not sure I'm correctly interpreting the issue involving the cross-adoption thing, but clearly if other couples within Texas have been able to successfully complete this same procedure then the judge should've permitted the cross-adoption unless it is forbidden under Texas law. And it may be, but if it is forbidden then how did the other judges permit the procedure to occur in the first place?

The case raises an interesting issue of how to define parenthood for birth certificate purposes. Perhaps there should be separate entries for biological parents and adoptive parents? I wouldn't know since the law isn't my expertise.

Either way, gay men facing these challenges is appalling. And I'd go so far as to say that this isn't just because these men are gay but because they are men - as established above, the whole Golden Uterus thing does mean we're inclined to see the bearing-mother as having a tighter bond with a child than a genetic non-bearing parent... and Maschalismos stated that lesbian moms are permitted to sign their names in Texas (I think many lesbian couples have one member bear a child... I'm not sure though, correct me if I'm wrong). So yeah... there's most likely some degree of misandry involved here.

robocondor · 2014-06-23T15:50:01+00:00

What is the function of a birth certificate? It was my understanding that it should record the details surrounding a persons birth. Can someone point out my mistake? I feel like it should just list the (biological) mother and father (in addition to all the other stuff - name/time/etc). This isn't a question of who loves the child the most, it's a government record that should contain accurate information. Unless I'm wrong about the purpose of a birth certificate.

Right?

Maschalismos · 2014-06-23T12:47:37+00:00

Asshats. I know for a FACT they let lesbian moms sign their names, even in texas.

Princess_Cherry · 2014-06-30T04:20:11+00:00

This is disgusting, and part of the reason I'm happy I don't live in Texas

roeyjevels · 2014-06-23T13:18:59+00:00

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Vegemeister · 2014-06-23T17:34:13+00:00

In April, they had twins, Lucas and Ethan, with the help of an egg donor and a surrogate mother.

Lol, what a saint.

2014-06-23T21:07:40+00:00

This is unfortunate, but the judge was acting in accordance with the law.

Texas needs to get its head out of its ass and legalize gay marriage or create civil unions with equivalent rights.

Slutlord-Fascist · 2014-06-23T14:41:50+00:00

queerty

Not even clicking.

Hrel · 2014-06-23T14:56:07+00:00

Gay dads and "biological children" just doesn't go together. They can't make kids. So obviously both of their names shouldn't be on the birth certificate. Need to know the biological parents for health reasons.

Sasha_ · 2014-06-23T17:30:07+00:00

Seeing as how there cannot be two biological father for one child. ... why would they let there be two fathers on the certificate.

2014-06-23T23:27:30+00:00

This is nothing new. Has been the status quo for straight men for ages. Welcome, dudes.

Chivalry is shit.

Sasha_ · 2014-06-23T16:57:35+00:00

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Title	Texas Judge Refuses To Allow Names Of Gay Dads To Appear On Their Own Biological Children’s Birth Certificates
Author	Sasha_
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Date	June 23, 2014 9:38 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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