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Blackpill Becoming Mainstream

February 23, 2023

I don’t know about you guys but I’ve been seeing a ton of blackpill content going somewhat mainstream. Everywhere. IG pages, twitter, etc. Like I’ll see a meme of a female comedian making a joke and everyone is in the comments talking about 80/20 or some shit lmao. Maybe my algorithm is fucked but probably not cause some of these blackpill media outlets are becoming disproportionately popular.

I’m sure this has been talked about before but I’m curious what you guys think will happen in a decade or something?

I think we will reach a point where we are sort of like South Korea, people getting plastic surgery en masse to acquire perfect facial structure and maybe even body modifications (limb lengthening for my fellow shortcels). Kinda like how people are flocking to gyms now and it seems like more and more people are turning to gymcelling. I think we will see way more blackpill content creators replace the current redpill figures as well. I have no predictions after the blackpill takes over the redpill in the media though.

I don’t think an incel uprising will happen (nor do I want one to) but I do think many more men will become depressed. Most men don’t become violent in the face of this stuff, just sad.

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[–]Iamnothere000 16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The truth always comes trough.

Blackpill Content just resonates best with most Mens lived experience.

I dont think there will be an uprising but instead some Kind of economic stagnation. Men will just be doing the Minimum to get by.

[–]Wirlix00BlackPill 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No. Nothing will happen at all. The future of dating will be today's but worse.

[–]Last-Post2085 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I kinda agree. Most men are happy to just consoom Marvel movies and video games now. And they need money to do that. So they will continue to go to work and watch porn.

[–]Iamnothere000 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the last sentence...

[–]l00ks-p1lled 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I hope plastic surgery will soon be normalized for men too. Society has accepted gender dysphoria, I think it's time to accept that you can be dissatisfied about your body and sexual life even if you're Cisgender

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it is already a little bit, it will become more so in coming years I bet

[–]carpetfoodie 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Gonna do rhino,hair and LL lol

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nice. I did rhino, currently on a hair regimen, and want to do LL in the future.

[–]carpetfoodie 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How was the rhino?

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great! Fixed my hump, length, width, tip.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think an incel uprising will happen (nor do I want one to) but I do think many more men will become depressed. Most men don’t become violent in the face of this stuff, just sad.

And unproductive. Say byebye to the tax base.

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This. We're already seeing a big increase in male unemployment and men leaving higher education.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I laugh at incels yapping about how men will bring down civilization in an orgy of violence if women don't fuck them. Youth bulges - large numbers of men who can't get married - are followed by big wars (World Wars 1/2, the Crusades, etc), but the TRUE damage is done by men deciding to peace out. They emigrate away, and when that's not possible, they just quit the economy. This is happening in realtime: Herbivore men are wiping out Japan as we speak, driving the country deep into debt.

[–]Eyesofmalice 8 points9 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

It’s not “becoming mainstream”, it’s just the truth. It’s always been talked about, people have always known it to be truth because it is. It’s just that lately, as capitalism has gone into crisis .

The middle and lower classes are see their income robbed by the powerful to a rate at which they can’t any longer out-earn inflation.

The patriarchy deluded all men into making them think that all of them could be Chad. But feminism made us realize that those dreams of “love for everyone” and “sex for everyone” were a lie, and that we, as we have always have, only matter as long as we make money for others and die silently outside the frame of the picture they need to show to young people in order to have them buy into capitalism.

Feminism showed us that the old dreams of finding person who loves you for who you are we’re lies, that women only find 20% of us attractive, and that our main purpose in society is to serve as moral scapegoats.

Now, as for a ray of hope, I don’t think there’s any. At least we live in a world in which there is toilet paper and sewage systems. We were also brought into the world for nothing but to fulfill the silly dreams of our parents who were normal people and weren’t aware of the life behind that illusion they upheld.

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529[S] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

brutally true. And I agree with it being the truth and people always knowing it in some form. what I’m referring to is people talking about common blackpill talking points (Chad only, 80/20, etc) in the mainstream.

Overall your message was well put though, all of it very true. Couldn’t have said it better myself tbh.

We were all told there is someone for everyone but that’s not the case. I mean, most people end up with partners, but how many women actually want to be with their partner as their partner? Like actually want to be with them romantically, not just someone they are marrying because they are “stable” and is their “best friend”? Very few women get the luxury of marrying someone they actually want in that sense. The vast majority of the men women settle for would have been seen as “just friends” maybe 5-7 years prior to getting married. Brutal.

I see women even on Reddit confirm this stuff too. The whole “young women are just immature that’s why they chase the exact same type of man! Then they grow up and their taste matures!!”. Like no, you still only want Chad. You just realized you were never going to get him and are now settling for someone you don’t want lmao. Maybe they will eventually admit this some day.

20% of women marry the men they actually want.

[–]Eyesofmalice 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. What’s annoying though is the mainstream putting it in moral terms. They lie to themselves thinking they love one another because of their character or their depth, the truth is humans are shallow, based and dumb, and all that leads men and women to be with one another is the perceived attraction.

They say it is determined by cultural norms and I partially agree, but like culture isn’t something you can just scape. Like take plus side models and alternative models, they get to model yeah, but they are not redefining what is considered beautiful, they just get paid money because they can be used by shallow people to follow on instagram and feel better about themselves.

But like yeah, the black pill is the only pill. If you’re born ugly and lower class, it’s over. You’ll have conservatives who happen to be rich and handsome telling you it’s your fault for not pulling yourself by your bootstraps like they never had to do.

Blue pilled women will tell you it’s because they can sense that you’re not a good person even though statistically you’re less likely to be the source of the abuse they grapple with everyday,

liberals will tell you that you just have to be a man and have the outage not to be a “man” so that women will realize you’re trying not to be a man and that will make them like you or maybe not, but you should however be a man and not be a traditional “men”

Red pillers will tell you that if you manage to lift 200 pounds while blasting Andrew Tate every morning, in 2.94837393/4 of a year you’ll be having all the pussy in the world, even though the girls red pillers pull don’t even like them and are usually broken shells of women at best.

That’s why it baffles me why the black pill is associated with right wingers. Like it’s the red pill who want to boot lick the powerful into getting pussy, liberals on the other hand tell you to just live your life as if it was a hallmark movie and then eventually a girl will like you!

The black pill I feel is sort of this realization that the right does nothing but tell men that if they participate in society they will eventually find love which is a lie, and the left tells you that if you rebel against society you’ll eventually have someone which is also a lie.

For the black pill, you realize that gut wrenchingly, the overwhelmingly vast majority of men have the sole purpose in our society to work until their bodies are broken and then die alone.

[–]no_bling_just_dingrip GD4761 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

honestly when we had a user from twoXchromosomes here i couldnt fucking tell half the time if she thought men flirting with women was good or bad because she changed her stance to disagree with whoever she was talking to and thats how i feel about liberals' dating advice in general

one minute it's blackpill is bad you should put yourself out there and the next it's when i see men flirt, i feel like they are VIOLATING my SAFETY

[–]Pilling_it 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To be honest it's just another variation of being sold the idea you would get equal opportunities and realising it's a load of bullshit.

And thing is, even for hardcore players.... Well, no one want to play a game you cannot win.

[–]lv-_-lv1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Red pillers will tell you that if you manage to lift 200 pounds while blasting Andrew Tate every morning, in 2.94837393/4 of a year you’ll be having all the pussy in the world, even though the girls red pillers pull don’t even like them and are usually broken shells of women at best.

I think this is mostly an American and Western-European problem. In Eastern-Europe, some parts of Middle-East, Central-Asia and Southeast-Asia, 3 years of hard looksmaxing gets you a young hot girl unless you have bottom 20% looks genes.

[–]Eyesofmalice 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So unless you’re really ugly, looksmaxxing works? I guess it makes sense, but I’d be willing to bet those girls either see you as a stepping stone to something better or just outright feel like they’re settling. Like in multiple studies and anecdotes it is noted than women overwhelmingly don’t feel attracted to men.

[–]ElectricBugs 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You've misinterpreted the while thing that feminism has uncovered. Feminism and capitalism has created a space for women to have more choices due to being able to choose who they married, have casual sex with less stigma (although there is still plenty around) and earn enough to support herself and not rely on a man for her survival.

You focus on the male point of view so you miss a lot of the context where men are not contributing or learning to contribute to women's lives in any meaningful way to make up for their lack of reliance upon men. women are still required to do a majority of household labour as well as childcare duties on top of work/earning an income. Men have routinely gotten away with doing very little on the home front as they were the providers but that now is not the case/ So the reality is men have to show their value in other ways.

Women are more likely to hold out for the best she can get or expects (whether you think she is overvaluing herself or not this applies) than to put up with what is currently on offer from men. what is on offer is women working and doing most of the childcare and housework while still being expected to supply sex and other things to men in relationships. It's completely out of balance. This is why women are now initiating most of the divorces. Because they get burnt out and realise that men add more work to their lives than not. That the net gain for women is not present in most relationships. Women are better off on their own than to deal with the inequality on the domestic and parenting front. And of course there will be exceptions to this. Men always claim to do their fair share (they don't usually).

So men have decided to fault women on this being about them chasing chads than realising that this is completely reversible. Plenty of people are in relationships. True incels are actually rare. If you are one there is usually a reason for it. And while it is a difficult scenario out there the leap to women being chad whores is just completely off the mark.

[–]Eyesofmalice 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree wholeheartedly, but I don’t see how that goes against my points to be honest.

I guess the implications you’re putting forward are that women are not looking for the top men but are simply not willing to put up with the imbalances that traditional relationships bring, which like, it is true, undeniably true, but I don’t see how it goes against my points.

And I think your last point is very disingenuous. Incels aren’t on the rise simply because they refuse to do their fair share, they’re on the rise simply because women aren’t as interested in men as the patriarchy had us believe.

Under the patriarchy, feminine desire is not considered at all, it didn’t matter so much if a woman truly desired his man for any other reason of him being a man. We can see this in the Iliad, men are desired because they took women by force, and that was the end of it.

I capitalism and feminism have granted women the option to live in a society which isn’t as patriarchal as feudalism, but I think your perspective is very “end of history” since I think denying that the archetypal men that’s desired by women is still hugely historically charged, that is it tends to be a patriarchal white male, of the upper classes. And all those traits women taut as “personality” are the result of class privileges. Rich people tend to have better education, therefore are more exposed to culture and art, they can buy better clothes, they’re groomed from a young age to take good care of themselves, to not have very strong opinions, and to be personable. Those are all bourgeoise values. I’m I greatly sympathize with the struggle women had to put up with through most history, and being black I’ll never forget that it was mostly women who supported the fight for our people’s freedom, but let’s not pretend that also a huge amount of women would get my people killed because they couldn’t confront their hegemonic guilt.

Also, saying that incels are incels usually because of a reason is true, they reason is that they’re not attractive. You may say it’s because of a moral quality about them, but morality is first of all, quite dependent on class, history and social position;, secondly it is shaped by external situations and personal experiences, and thirdly morality is not dependent on existence. Saying that incels must be bad because if they weren’t they wouldn’t be incels is a tautology it seems. It promises a social structure in which goodness and fairness is rewarded, but in a world in which men throw acid to their exes or butcher them, it’s hard to take such arguments in good faith.

Yes, I agree, men are very often whiny when they realize that they have to push their weight in the household, and yes women and men are not in a symmetrical position when it comes to social power, but implying that incels, lower class individuals, with almost no social impact and powerless 99.9% of the time are the embodiment of hegemonic patriarchy is laughable. If that we’re the case the patriarchy would be dead and it is not, and bourgeoise values would be in crisis which they’re not.

Incels are just this group of men that by virtue of being undesirable get the ailments of manhood projected on to them and blamed for them, instead of confronting the men that truly uphold the patriarchy, which are the ones being desired and in power.

[–]ElectricBugs 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't blame Incels or say they were bad at all. I said there are reasons. True Incels have barriers to being matched with women. Those barriers vary.

I think women have been trained to desire certain things but that has and is changing over time. There are many reasons why women enter into relationships. I think attraction to the person is actually no where near as important in relationships as it is in casual sex. Toxic masculinity does have a lot to do with this and there is a lot of work left for feminism to do. Women and men are being disadvantaged still.

[–]Grapestheanswer 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The patriarchy deluded all men into making them think that all of them could be Chad.

Time to bring it back

[–]no_bling_just_dingrip GD4761 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

can't bring back what never existed

but you can have your retro gynocentrism where you fight wars and wageslave to feed a woman who doesnt want you i'd rather kill off what's left of that system so that women don't get free entitlements based on their chromosomes

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

You’re lying to yourself if you think back then you wouldn’t be in the same position, only with less amenities.

[–]Grapestheanswer 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah there's no difference between a society with near universal marriage and this one 🤣speak for yourself bud

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, good luck bringing back the patriarchy then.

[–]Grapestheanswer 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It started once, it can start again

[–]Eyesofmalice 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good luck!

[–]Grapestheanswer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No u

[–]platinirismsBlackPill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Blackpill just… makes sense, if you want to attract women, be attractive.

I don’t think it will lead to anything revolutionary, naturally attractive men will continue dating around, naturally ugly men will suffer.

In terms of looksmaxing. There’s a large amount of effort involved that the average man just doesn’t have the motivation in them to pursue it.
I’ve introduced tons of men to the gym, exercise, lifting, dieting, etc, and many of these have effectively “taken the Redpill”, yet almost all of them have given up on improving themselves.

So I don’t think anything substantial will happen at a societal level, men are somewhat content with their video games, movies, hobbies, and porn to really care about themselves or the dating market.

[–]Opening_Pattern_301GloriousPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that would be a nightmare to live in, one thing is that your dating life is determined by your looks, that i can live with and accept, but to think that you get less oportunities in life because of your looks is dystopian, suicide is so common in south korea due to that pressure, horrible to live in, i remember a south korean girl who went to live to my homeland, you would wonder why a woman from such a developed country would stay in a country which was afflicted by civil war during 60 years, child homelesness is common, and you can hire hitmen to shoot down someone who glanced weirdly at you for little as 100$, but she said she never been so happy, she was scared to show her face in pictures withouth filters, yet when she did it nobody jugded her for that, she though she was ugly and she was called a failure in south korea, yet here everybody let her live and didnt care about her appearence, they dont even consider her ugly there. Honestly i dont wanna live in a place like that neither, it is okay to care about looks but not to that extreme, and keep in mind asians are extremely rare there, the most you can find are the owners of chinese restaurants. People ignorantly call her "the chinese" but thats because they all look the same for us and the only asian people the majority there have seen are chinese, it is not in bad faith though and is not like she minds anyways, we all get called names there, for example i was called "the monkey" because of my light skin and hair, since monkeys have pale skin and light hair there and white skin is rather in the minority.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They will accept and take blackpill like it something natural.

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