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Men are killers.

Wild_Aioli

December 6, 2022
46 upvotes
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Title Men are killers.
Author

Wild_Aioli

Upvotes 46
Comments 40
Date December 6, 2022 9:16 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/zeictj/men_are_killers/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AntiFeminists/men-are-killers.1142663
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Comments

[–]AdComprehensive6588 39 points40 points41 points 3 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Actually many of them were perpetuated by men raised by single mothers

No one wants to hear this though

[–]incorrect_bones 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Why shit on the parent that stayed instead of the one that left?

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Not every single mother relationship is due to the father leaving, divorce courts and single parent custody are still a thing.

Besides the blame is on both. Both consented to unprotected sex without a proper commitment.

Believe me I despise deadbeat fathers, but unless both consented to wanting a child, you make sure you’re protected.

[–]incorrect_bones 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not every single mother relationship is due to the father leaving, divorce courts and single parent custody are still a thing.

True

I'm just not a fan of the blanket statement that 'single mother's create mass shooters' because it ignores so many factors and their implications that go into the statistic.

Like poverty, daddy issues, other mental health issues unrelated to parent status, etc.

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Single motherhood can and does create mass shooters because of the lack of emotionally stability from not having a father. That’s a blatant fact that most children need both parents in their life and both parents serve different roles.

[–]incorrect_bones 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep. I think male and female influences are an absolute essential for every child.

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nailed it.

[–]SkeletonKiss78 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

How many?

[–]AdComprehensive6588 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

More then half

[–]SkeletonKiss78 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

According to whom?

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Statistics and common sense. https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/

“Effects of Fatherlessness – Teenage Statistics {2} 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teen pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers, 80% of all prison inmates, and 90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes.

[–]SkeletonKiss78 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The vast majority of those stats aren't from this century. Quite a few of them are citing editorial articles as sources. Where are the stats on single father homes?

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That actually makes things worse because the rate of single motherhood has gone up. https://www.aecf.org/blog/child-well-being-in-single-parent-families

Well there’s the opposite issue. Studies show that mothers are unique in providing care during childhood in many ways and better than fathers. Thus, to a degree, they cannot be replaced, and separation can have an impact on the child’s development: Children prefer mothers over fathers at certain times of life, when seeking emotional support, feeling hungry, sick, or going through distress. Contact with the mother is more soothing than with any other person. Mothers are naturally more sensitive and responsive to the particular needs of young children. They are better at distinguishing various responses of a child, like when a child is hungry and when in pain. Mothers are better at interpreting the emotions of children. Thus, they can help them better. They can better understand the child’s requirements by looking at posture, gestures, and faces. Children become more hostile and even anti-social in the absence of the mother.

Single father homes have issues themselves but the rate of single father homes to mother homes is staggering in the women’s favor.

[+]sas0002 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How is it the mothers fault the that left them? At least SM stayed with the kid.

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you read the response I typed to that very same question?

[–]Wordroots 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then why aren't women raised by single mothers shooting places up?

[–]AdComprehensive6588 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they take after their mother (by being the same gender) and model themselves after her.

Which, unfortunately, leads to them doing the same mistakes as their mother, IE sleeping with men without protection and having children outside of committed relationships, abortion etc.

Women take after their mother, men take after their father.

[–]Phoj7 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They were perpetrated by pandas.

[–]JustaTcup 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Feminists don't have time to go out and do mass shootings. They're too busy at home killing their own children.

[+]sas0002 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So fuck single moms but also fuck women who get an abortion to not become single moms? Is that what you’re saying?

[–]JustaTcup 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Um obviously not lol. That was quite the stretch you did there. I'm just saying F child killers.

[–]ZoomGoat 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

*at the clinic

[–]JustaTcup 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There too but I was talking about born, breathing children. But good point. There too, unfortunately.

[–]Training-Rich5057 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

What about all the abortions sought out by women? I would say that is killing. What is a feminist who wants abortions does it three times or more? Is that a serial killer? Just wanting to kill a defenseless human.

[–]grump63 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's actually crazy, planned parenthood has stats showing 40% of people who get abortions get more than one. And poor people are the least likely demographic to get an abortion.

I think abortion is a fundamentally bad thing for society. But if we're going to value sexual liberty at all costs it makes sense for men to be allowed paper abortions.

[–]Reasonable_Listen514 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How many of the shooters were raised by single mothers? Women create violent men.

[–]incorrect_bones -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What about the fathers that left them? I think that would play an important psychological role.

[–]Reasonable_Listen514 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Most single moms are single moms by choice. They choose who to have sex with, and whose baby to bring to term. Women have most of the contraceptive options, have the option to abort, and can even put a baby up for adoption. If they choose to have the baby of an irresponsible man who isn't going to be a dad, it's on the moms. Plus, women file 80% of divorces, breaking up the family and leaving the dad only every other weekend with the child (if that). Single motherhood is a consequence of female irresponsibility.

[–]incorrect_bones -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most single moms are single moms by choice

Some are but some aren't. Some women find themselves in the situation and decide to accept the situation. Some women have a support system. Some don't. Some women had no escape from the situation. It's a complex topic with overlapping factors.

choose who to have sex with

Most of the time yes, but sometimes they don't. Rape still exists.

Women have most of the contraceptive options

Men have the safest, easiest, and most accessible contraceptive methods. Not every woman has access to hormonal bc or IUDs. Not everyone is capable of being on them. I've tried every kind but I can't because it causes me too many issues. Some people don't have financial access. Many teenagers still live under the mercy of their parents. Religious beliefs play a role. Some people live in places that make access difficult. Even then, bc can still fail.

have the option to abort,

Not everyone has access to abortion, especially not now. The states with the highest rates of single motherhood are the states with the strictest abortion laws. Even if they do have access, it may be very restricted. Once again parents can cause issues. Personal religious or moral beliefs play a role. Finances play a role.

and can even put a baby up for adoption

There's usually family pressure or social stigma that comes with carrying to term and giving up for adoption, leading to women sometimes choosing the option that creates less tension in their lives and girls not being able to choose if their family is against it.

If they choose to have the baby of an irresponsible man who isn't going to be a dad, it's on the moms

You can't always tell if someone is going to split. Sure some are a result from a one night stand. Many are also a result from someone they trusted and didn't think would leave. Also it's definitely on the person who chose to leave as well. That's not how responsibility works.

women file 80% of divorces,

Women file 70% of divorces. Women also file divorce they are more likely to have more domestic responsibilities despite both partners working full time, women are expected to do the majority of child raising and many dads see taking care of their kids as babysitting or helping mom instead of their actual responsibility as a parent, women are expected to take on more emotional labor, women are more likely to be expected to be task managers of chores in the home, and they're overall more likely to feel stifled, overworked, and underappreciated in a marriage. They are statistically less tolerant of unacceptable behavior. Women are not enjoying their marriages, but this isn't new. They haven't for a good majority of history, but now they have the financial, legal, and social means to leave a situation they aren't happy with.

breaking up the family and leaving the dad only every other weekend with the child (if that

The majority of divorces fathers do not apply for custody or they opt out completely and want nothing to do with the responsibility of the kids they previously had. When they do apply for custody, they are more likely than the mother to receive it. Most child support goes unpaid.

Single motherhood is a consequence of female irresponsibility.

Yuck.

Some people are single as a result of death, abuse, and other uncontrollable life instances or scenerios where the health and safety of the mother and children were more important than the relationship.

Does this mean that the fathers who do leave don't have to face consequences for their irresponsibility? After all don't they also choose who they have sex with, whether or not they use protection, and if they're having a kid with someone irresponsible?

Is single fatherhood a punishment for the irresponsibility of men?

[+]sas0002 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

most single moms are single moms by choice

I’d like to see a source for that.

have the option to abort

Which some of y’all are working real hard against

women file 80% of divorces

It’s actually 70%…

Also married men are generally happier than married women. Idk about Americans but in my country we don’t call divorcées single parents if the other parent is allowed to see the child/children.

[–]Accomplished_Pipe877 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yeah. We all know most murders are done by men. When will people start talking about how 85% of mass shootings happen in gun free zones?

[–]PlzSendDunes 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So does it suggest that because few men did it, then it means all men are guilty of that? So an elderly man spending his last days is guilty what a bullied teenager with an easy access to a weapon did?

Does it mean that if some women kill their children due to jealousy, it's all women's fault?

[–]machismo_eels 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

606, huh? They may be predominantly men but with those kind of numbers I wonder which race is responsible for the majority of them?

[–]mvnnyvevwofrb 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, I can hardly imagine a woman doing a mass shooting.

[–]ScottdaDM -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The majority of child abuse, particularly child abuse that leads to death are perpetrated by women.

NotAllWomen #ButEnoughWomen

Where's the ribbon for that one? Hmm?

[+]probably-an-asshole- -10 points-9 points-8 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I mean she’s stating a fact, not saying that all men are killers. What she is saying is factual though.

[–]Ok-Crab-4063 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

~3/4s of mental illness cases are female and ~3/4 of suicide incidents are male is another fact

[+]probably-an-asshole- -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s true. Men’s mental health is a big problem

[–]Ok-Crab-4063 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Read it again missndrist

[–]parahacker 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok that was clever.

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