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SomeSugondeseGuy · 2024-12-24T03:24:21+00:00

Didn't you know? 167% of women are victims!

On a more serious note, this is, explicitly, them saying that men experience sexual assault but are somehow not victims.

-EDIT-

Actually it goes deeper than that.

The 1 in 33 metric does exist - but it's using a definition for rape that requires the victim be the one penetrated, erasing the overwhelming majority of male victims of women.

The 1 in 6 metric is what happens when you include male victims of women in the first place.

Rape statistics often use a definition that requires the victim be the one being penetrated, which erases most male victims of women, as mechanically speaking that's simply not how women rape. So take this source From the CDC, and include "Made to Penetrate" as rape for the 12-month prevalence column (Page 32, PDF page 36). If you don't trust a link from me since I'm a random internet stranger, this is the NISVS's report on sexual violence from the year 2016 - one of the largest and most reliable studies of its kind.

If you use a non-discriminatory definition, 3,218,000 men (confidence interval 95%) experienced rape, sexual coercion, or being "made to penetrate" (rape) with female perpetrators in the year of 2016. That's once every 10 seconds, not including repeat offenses.

This is compared to 7,264,000 women (confidence interval 95%) being sexually coerced or raped by male perpetrators in the same timeframe. So once every 5 seconds.

I am combining MTP, rape, and sexual coercion into one number - as I define rape as "non-consensual sex", and consider rape through violence/drug facilitation, rape through sexual coercion, as well as rape through violent/drug facilitated forced penetration as equal crimes, even if the CDC doesn't.

I plugged this into excel and got a split of 31/69 female/male perpetrated heterosexual rape for the year of 2016.

For MTP/Rape it's 32/68 and for rape through sexual coercion it's 30/70. I took the averages and got 31/69.

The reason why I chose to only include heterosexual nonconsensual sex is because the number for female-on-female rape and male-on-male MTP rape that the CDC found were too low to produce population statistics with a confidence interval of 95%, so I find that it would be disingenuous to include the statistics for homosexual rape for men but not women. If you're like me and want to know anyways, the number of male-on-male rapes in 2016 was 244,000 and the number of the same for sexual coercion was 311,000 - still staggering but of course these two combined still only account for 14.7% of male victims of nonconsensual sex.

A majority of rapists are men. That much is true. But this whole 1 in 33, 90% bullshit is based on the idea that men's experiences are less valid than women's.

screamgeek · 2024-12-24T02:38:12+00:00

I’m a man, and I’ve been groped, grabbed, and pinched on nights out more times than I can count. While it hasn’t bothered me too much, I often wonder if the situation was reversed it would be a very different story.

AdSpecial7366 · 2024-12-24T07:35:19+00:00

The stats from RAINN are of rape. We know from CDC that it's roughly equal in men and women when we count made to penetrate as Rape. Now, idk what the 1in6 categorised as sexual abuse or assault. Can you link their stats?

MarionberryPrimary50 · 2024-12-25T15:40:29+00:00

first of all, this is not how statistics work

2nd of all, female sex offenders are much less likely to be reported, compared to their male counterparts

I-have-Arthritis-AMA · 2024-12-24T12:56:54+00:00

I mean it is different statistics, one is taking about rape victims, one is taking about actual rape, and the other is taking about how many men have been raped/SAed

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Date	December 24, 2024 2:15 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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