Look, I am someone who needs the strongest argument to be convinced. I used to be a feminist and spent years debating with the manosphere before I joined them. I used to defend libertarianism, and after years of defending it, I am no longer a libertarian.
Now I pretty much think that socialism cannot exist because women are hypergamous. I believe that if feminism is to be successful, it needs to be just as aggressive when it comes women's hypergamous behavior, as it is to men in shaving commercials who are trying to make a move. I see feminism as only tackling one side of the coin. and censoring everything that doesnt agree with its world view.
also I dont understand why this community conflates MGTOW, redpill and pickup artists. Redpill and pickup to me, are both, impotent. I really hope that you guys are well read on all these topics, as well as feminism. So here is my response to all the "essential readings" and I only responded to that which is not a strawman:
"As the expression goes, when all you have is a hammer, all you see are nails."
this can go for anyone. when all you see is oppression... nobody is imposing categories, they are just useful terms.
"In our species, the attainment of social status, and the mating benefits that come along with it, can be accomplished through compassion and cooperation just as much (if not more so) as through aggression and intimidation."
the problem isnt the "type" of social status, it is the endless striving for it. I was dating a girl who literally told me once, that I was the "winner of a race" i litterally dumped her after that. As if I am in a race with all other men, for her vagina. fuck that.
"a prestigious man"
what does it take to be "prestigious" in our society? easy, it depends on how well you can exploit people for their surplus labor. yes I am a marxist.
" I challenge you to define what “Being Alpha” really means"
The whiter, taller, stronger and richer you are, the more alpha you are.
It is not so nebulous.
" toxic masculinity only allows men to interact with women in one of two ways"
doesnt apply to me.
"assuming that we are, at our core, animals at best. "
women assume this, and men act the part. "men are dogs"
Honestly I am always on the lookout for the strongest refutations that can truly change my opinion.
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Re. Socialism and hypergamy, I can see what you're talking about but individuals are all over the map. Do your prospective dates work on Wall Street or are they volunteering for Bernie? People respect different things and "success" is not just a financial yardstick.
I can't really debate your definitions & reading because I don't take it that seriously. Too much ideology (of any kind) gets in the way of developing healthy relationships, I think. We live in a mix of all kinds of ideologies and people.
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True, nobody gets through life without some damage. Maybe "healthy" isn't the right word. Developing interesting, and, um, invigorating? relationships are worth it
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Lol well sounds like it's working out
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Yep eventually you'll want someone who has your back and looks out for you when you're sick etc.
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