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Then you're probably best asking a general US subreddit and say you're thinking of coming to the US and want to meet people who share your hobby around fitness, including being open to dating. How likely are you to meet someone and what would be the best way to do it. Honestly I think some of your issue is how you ask the question rather than the question itself.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 07:59 AM
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You could really just google at least some of that to get a rough estimate, and that's probably the most you could ask for anyway since there isn't a standard health and fitness level of women your age in the US.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 07:54 AM
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What sort of question are you wanting to ask? That will guide where you can/should ask it.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 07:43 AM
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Because of all the ways to do it is one of the least effective and most negative in terms of experience for everyone involved. To increase chances and avoid negative experiences people here often get super worried about e.g. harsh rejection or being seen as "creepy", cold approaching should generally be avoided in favour of any/a range of other methods.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 07:32 PM
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More than one thing can be true at once and it varies from person to person. I get that it's annoying, but it isn't that people are being vague on purpose, it's that both things CAN be how someone finds a partner.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 07:18 PM
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Approaching people in places like clubs is fine. As is using apps. I guess some of it comes down to the purpose of going to the activity, what the activity is, and the group of people going. So, for example, I have seen many relationships form (and some subsequently end) at the choir I go to. Mixed voice choirs often have a higher number of women attendees, it is also not typically an activity men do unless they are actually interested in singing - so fewer people cruising to get a date. There's…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/26 01:22 PM
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There's nothing wrong with you, you're just meeting people.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/26 12:49 PM
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In my opinion, no. If you're into that content then you've not really left.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/26 03:48 AM
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I think some things definitely aren't common enough to be meaningful and other things describe a trait that is variable within itself. It does not show that these things are in some way evolutionary. So any claim about them being attractive doesn't support the idea that love is shallow and depends on social status.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 05:23 PM
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But "High genetic quality" requires variation. The idea that things trend towards the same thing would weaken the genetic pool. For example hips that are too wide come with their own health risks, it is in the interest of the group to maintain a variance of hip width (typically within a bell curve) to avoid too much specialisation. An example of this can be see in things like dog breading, where humans have controlled for specific traits which ultimately has resulted in breeds having known genet…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 03:47 PM
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There are many people who stay with their partner through their looks changing in all manner of ways. There are shallow people, sure, but it's not an innate trait in everyone. Otherwise we'd see a lot more break ups following any change in appearance, which just isn't actually reflective of society. If it was biologically hardwired into us, we'd see it happen a lot more. Also, the "strongest" genetics doesn't mean what people seem to think it means. Genetics are very complicated. "Strongest" or …
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 02:27 PM
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And how are you working out your theory about experiences you don't have regarding a sex you aren't attracted to?
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 04:46 PM
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And you think women are incapable of seeing randoms in public they find attractive?
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 03:48 PM
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This makes it sound like men don't find celebrities or models attractive and women don't find non-celebrities or models attractive. Both of which are clearly not true.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 03:02 PM
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There was a whole thing a while back about Grok claiming to be mechahitler and also a fairly viral time when someone said "Grok do your thing" (asking it to strip a picture of a female celebrity - also gross) and instead it gave a run down of if she was Jewish or not. Which was, erm, suspect.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/26 08:47 PM
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Because AI is well known for making shit up. Also for making sexual images of children and stripping people when asked and that particular one is known for being pro-Hitler and pro-known pedos. It should not be trusted.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/26 07:34 PM
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No. It's basically a lie machine. When it's not being user be pedos.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/26 07:30 PM
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My husband basically ghosts me regularly. I don't think reading into how long it takes to text back is helpful.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/26 05:03 PM
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Where tf do you live that not having Instagram means you're labelled as "unfaithful"?
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 01:21 AM
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I mean, yes. That is what I was implying.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 01:19 AM
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Honestly I think it would probably be smart for everyone to delete instagram. Cute that you seem to think only women do things for internet clout though.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/26 11:32 PM
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Like really quite obviously yes.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/26 08:28 AM
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You'll find most couples aren't in the financial position for one person to not contribute at all financially. But I am in a relationship where we are roughly equal earners and split bills equally or close to, with neither feeling the pressure to be a "provider" and both having their own hobbies etc. Which they are supported in both in terms of free time and spending money. Most established relationships, even (or perhaps especially) traditional ones, have the woman planning appointments, trips,…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/26 07:30 PM
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As in contribute or be the sole earner?
/r/ExRedPill27/01/26 06:25 PM
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What actions count as leading the relationship? And protect in what sense?
/r/ExRedPill27/01/26 05:59 PM
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What do you mean by these things?
/r/ExRedPill26/01/26 09:55 PM
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It is nonetheless nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/25 10:02 PM
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All gender essentialism relies on thinking badly of all genders. So I would say yes, they do hate men, they're just much less violent about it.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/25 07:05 PM
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Flies don't reproduce the way humans do. Anyone using fly studies to back up a claim about human sexual reproduction is either willfully lying or woefully misinformed.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/25 09:40 PM
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Sperm lives in the body for up to 5 days. After that it is dead and gone and wiped away by the natural processes. This is why its harder to get pregnant than some people think. That sperm which died after less than a week is doing fuck all to impact a child that is growing years later. It's doing fuck all to a child concieves weeks later. Realistically its doing fuck all to a child that is conceived from different sperm in that same week. Sperm is not that powerful and the DNA from it doesn't li…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/25 09:39 PM
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I think they meant "past loves"
/r/ExRedPill25/03/25 04:15 PM
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Well for starters this study is about flies where the reproductive method means that they lay multiple eggs and each egg could have a different male fertilise it. So it's looking at how/if already ferlitised eggs which are maturing inside the insect are changed if exposed to the semen of another insect whilst they are developing and how the eggs ferilised by the second male may give off slightly different chemicals so the two different batches impact each other chemically. This is in no way rela…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/25 09:16 AM
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The times I have been in the gym (admittedly not that often, I hate the gym and prefer other exercise methods) I am too busy thinking about what I'm doing and what my routine is going to be and if its enough to meet my goals etc to be thinking negatively about other people. I do also worry people are looking at me, but I assume that since I'm not, they're also probably not unless I happened to do something particularly attention grabbing.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 08:27 PM
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Are heterosexual men more attracted to the opposite sex than vice versa? No, I don't think so. I've not seen any clear evidence either way.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/24 12:37 PM
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Can you expand on what you mean when you say conflict is different from quarreling or anger?
/r/ExRedPill05/12/24 09:08 AM
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Is this something worth worrying about? No. Is it even real? Not really. Blown out of proportion? Yes.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/24 03:26 AM
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You don't need therapy because you've been single for 2 years. You may need therapy for your thoughts about if you're "cursed" and potentially other ideas.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/24 08:04 PM
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Mandatory DNA tests would come with so many issues outside of relationship based things - Who owns that personal information? Who can access it? Who stores it? Who is paying for that storage? Mandatory pre-nups are slightly less concerning from a personal data position. Personally I think it's a bit toxic to introduce them regardless of the other concerns, especially DNA tests. I think if someone doesn't trust their partner to that extent they probably shouldn't be with them to start with. It's …
/r/ExRedPill12/10/24 10:35 PM
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I never actually specified gender. People can approach whoever they want wherever they want. I'm just warning them that they're more likely to get neutral to negative responses and not have much success finding dates in some places more than others.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/24 09:58 AM
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Sometimes the gym can be, although generally I wouldalways encourage a warm approach - that is where someone has seen the othet person a few times, ideally they'd at least say hi to each other and know each others names before going for asking someone out. Because fully cold approaches usually mean you're just interrupting someone who is busy doing their own thing, which hardly sets up a good starting point for making a connection.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 11:42 PM
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A social gathering would come under "a place where you can talk and get to know each other". There are absolutely environments where it is ok to talk to people you don't know. But randomly on the street/in a supermarket/at the gym (outside of classes, and with some exceptions) isn't it.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 11:27 PM
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This seems to be a sticking point for people. You can absolutely approach strangers in a social setting to start making a connection with them. That is not "cold approaching" which is the term used explicitly for asking out a stranger in your first interaction with them. Meeting new people in a group designed for socialising is not cold approaching. Also, you don't have to hop from social group to social group if you're joining social groups because you genuinely like the activity/activities and…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 08:14 PM
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There are so many spaces to meet people that don't involve approaching strangers. The fact you immediately went to "well guess it's only online then" is odd to me.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 03:59 PM
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Yeah, most if not all of them are fake. Some might be completely fake and using actors. Most of the time they will have edited it so that they're simply not showing all the times it didn't work. You get a video with say, 5-10 instances of getting a phone number (which may or may not be real and still has all the other social issues I mentioned as possibilities) and they don't show you the 60+ other attempts it took them to get those "successes".
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 09:46 AM
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You know nothing about the other person other than how they look, so it's a method that is unlikely to net any real connection. Depending on the context/situation it may be at best a bit inconvenient or at worse scary for the person being approached. This is not always the case, there are times and places where cold approaches can work, but those times are much less common than ones where the chances are you're starting out on totally the wrong foot by bothering a stranger. Depending on how well…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 09:12 AM
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I don't know if it's possible to answer that question. I don't think anyone has done a study on it. All that being said: 1. You live in Poland where you note there are a lot of quite regressive ideas about romance and relationships that are very present in society. That sucks, I have some Polish friends (living in the UK) and they also struggle with messages from friends and family who are still in Poland and hold those views. It is possible/probable that the books you're seeing are more common …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 09:17 PM
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There are lots of romance books that are not at all as you describe. Source: I read a lot of romance books.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 08:50 PM
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I generally advocate for what I'd term a warm approach. That is forming at least some form of connection with someone on advance of asking them out, ideally you should both at least know each other's names and have had at least one general interaction. The best way to get these sorts of opportunities is to be in social situations where you are meeting and form connections (both platonic and potentially romantic).
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 02:55 PM
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Are you only using cold approaches? That's like playing on the hardest possible setting. You do need to work on your anxiety around slow replies and the catastrophising that comes from that. That is absolutely something you can work on even if the interactions don't lead to a relationship or sex.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 01:50 PM
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I don't know if anyone can say how often. Also depends on what behaviours need to be displayed to say it's adoration.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/24 06:56 PM
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Objectively yes. You shouldn't even really need to ask about this dude.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 10:26 PM
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Women I have slept with say they don’t care or don’t notice - but I think this is more or less why I am a “little bitch,” and why women eventually all get the “ick” with me. OR you could believe the women you've slept with that they don't care or notice and do some more self reflection about what might have been the cause/s of your previous relationships ending.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 07:25 PM
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It's quite common in therapy for things to 'get worse before they get better'. You haven't mentioned if you're actually in therapy, but I think the principle likely still applies. Often to make changes you've got to stop relying on your previous (less healthy) coping mechanisms, and that can 1. make it harder to cope until you've learned healthier ones and 2. make it harder not to have moments where you relapse into using those methods again as a means of managing. The way through it is to keep …
/r/ExRedPill23/08/24 04:41 PM
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for some reason can’t wrap my head around that. That’s why I consider my count of 15 to be average at this point. Relationships are at an all time low, temporary situationships are in That's because it's something you've made it up. You don't need to wrap your head around it because it's not real.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/24 04:47 PM
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Do you just want matches or do you want the actual chance to form connections. If you only want matches but don't want them to progress beyond the first date when the person realises you lied and so no longer trusts you enough to continue seeing and/or sleep with, lie away. If you want to match with people who you can actually build a relationship with, don't lie.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/24 02:22 PM
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Lol nope. I am very much not asexual and I have a fairly high sex drive.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/24 04:22 PM
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I've never had sex outside of a relationship and am a liberal/leftist woman.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/24 03:15 PM
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Huh. I think that's a bit made up.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 03:00 PM
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I have no idea what a 'roster' is or why you would apparently need one? You get started in dating by widening your social circle.so that you're meeting new people regularly and have opportunities to build social connections. This increases your chances of finding someone you connect with romantically. Some people also use apps, those can be more fraught.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 06:54 AM
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Noticeable neither the source OP linked not the source linked by that source take anyone to the actual study. Which is always a red flag.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 03:05 PM
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did you... did you actually bother reading the study? It literally says the opposite of your title. Did you just read a headline that a study showed that height could make a difference and make the assumption it would confirm your beliefs? Because it very much doesn't. According to a recent study, shorter men actually seem to have more successful marriages. Specifically, short men married later in life, but were 32% less likely to divorce. It seems to be that shorter men marry younger women who …
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 11:37 AM
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Generally speaking about 37°C (98.6°F).
/r/ExRedPill05/07/24 04:25 PM
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I know a guy who is 5'3 and he's happily married with a kid now, but he's also had a lot of casual sex. So presumably a fair number of people have found him sexually attractive.
/r/ExRedPill23/06/24 07:07 PM
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Fair enough, my husband is demi-sexual as are many of my friends and they can all definitely find people attractive but it tends to be more "I think I could get on really well/form a strong connection tonthis person" than it is looks based. So still might be something to consider but maybe not in a super strict way.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/24 10:26 PM
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Crushes can often be fairly shallow things. They aren't necessarily based on deep friendships or knowing someone well. I absolutely had a crush on my husband pretty early on into knowing him... my reasoning was mostly that I thought he was cool. That was based on what I gathered of his views on the world and the way he talked about Stuff being interesting to me, he also had (still has) a natural white streak in his hair which I thought was (still think is) cool. At that point I would have said w…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/24 10:15 PM
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Women dislike when men fake being interested in friendship for the purpose of getting close to then hit on them/ask for sex. If a man genuinely wants friendship and then catches feelings, but is mature and respectful if the woman isn't interested, then it's fine. Sometimes you meet people and get a crush. This happens for all genders regardless if if they are actively looking for a partner. The aim/hope is to meet someone and you both develop a crush on each other. That can be done without needi…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/24 09:55 PM
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They don't all congregate in one place we can just point you to. The main thing is to keep up a social life where you regular meet and interact with people, ideally also meeting new people quite often. The more people you meet, the more likely you are to meet people you connect with who also don't care about height.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/24 09:37 PM
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I have never seen that on reddit. Genuinely, where are you seeing this? Which subs?
/r/ExRedPill21/06/24 10:53 PM
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Depends how much respect. Like, did they do something I disagree with where I lose a small amount of respect but we talk about it and I still respect them in general? No, of course it's not automatically over or even really at risk of being over. Perhaps early in a relationship these things matter more, but 11 years in, it is absolutely not over just because of a small thing. If they were to do something that fundamentally goes against the values I have and the values they say they have/have pre…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 03:05 PM
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Porn and kink and really not places to draw conclusions about anyone. I find the red pill ideal repugnant. My husband is neither submissive nor dominating. Lots of the sort of porn you are describing is also a male fantasy. You cannot draw conclusions about what all women want from anything, because there is nothing universal to what women want, but especially you cannot draw it from the porn industry.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 02:18 PM
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Where on earth did you get kink from in their comment? And what point are you making exactly about it?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 01:57 PM
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Women are a paradox, a dichotomy unknowable No, we aren't.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 12:49 PM
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The classic example of the difference between the male and female gaze (specifically and media and there's debate about if the female gaze even exists) is the two different magazine articles with Hugh Jackman on the front. Google them. Hugh Jackman is on both, so it's not a change in his literal physical features. It's a change in the framing and focus - to appeal to women he's friendly, domestic, and approachable. The term male gaze (and loosely female gaze, but again it is debated as a proper …
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 12:04 PM
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Fair enough, I just often find even people who aren't trying to spread falsehoods aren't necessarily correct about hormones.
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 09:58 PM
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Like what?
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 08:53 PM
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It's a different claim though, isn't it? 'No one has ever liked me' is not the same as 'no one has ever indicated that they liked me'. The first one is often used as self-flagellation or a reason to think that they are in some way inherently 'unlovable'. It is also not something that can be known to be true or false. The second one is much more about emotions and a true statement. It can start a conversation around approaches and potentially missing signs of interest etc.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/24 11:20 PM
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Isn't this basically the same post you made two hours ago? I don't think anyone here is saying 'women are goddesses' that sounds like the exact sort of thing we would explicitly not say. What we do say is that women are people and people are unique and varied. For the most part, I find that I find most people look 'fine' - I don't think they're drop dead gorgeous but I also don't think they're super unattractive. So most people start at a baseline of 'yeah, they look ok/fine/nice/no real complai…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 08:17 PM
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The Real TruthTM is that humans are messy and weird and there is no 'real truth' about what all women like or dislike. Some men who are misogynists are finding relationships, some men who are misogynists aren't finding relationships. Some men who aren't misogynists are finding relationships, some men who aren't misogynists aren't finding relationships. Some women don't give a shit what someone's views are if they're hot/have money/it's just a hook up, some women really care and won't form relati…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 06:44 PM
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You played yourself. She was very clear from the start that she didn't like you to the same level you liked her and that she is more into casual sex than you are. You decided to keep approaching anyway to the point of going against your own feelings around casual sex yourself. You were not played by her. You disregarded your own boundaries in the hopes you'd get her to change her mind and she didn't. Don't compromise your boundaries in the hope someone will change their mind. Let this be an impo…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 11:22 PM
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There's your answer about women then: Most don't think things that extreme and there a lot with empathy for men. There still a lot that don't. Most lack empathy. Now, I disagree with you, I think most people do have empathy for others in real life, though not necessarily online. But that's not really the point. The point is, what you believe about men and empathy is really no different to what you should believe about women and empathy. If there was going to be a difference, I'd expect women to …
/r/ExRedPill09/03/24 12:43 AM
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Do most men have empathy for women? I know men in my life and have been in online spaces with very empathetic men. But then sometimes online I see men say really nasty shit about women and how they should be treated. Do you think it is realistic for me to assume based on comment sections of YouTube or Instagram that the majority of men think its OK to sexual assault children? Or despise literally all women?
/r/ExRedPill08/03/24 11:47 PM
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I love it when my husband shares his emotions with me - honestly I wish he'd do it a bit more often! He often deals with things very internally but is obviously stressed, and that works for him but I'd find it much easier if he would talk more about it! We're currently going through a fair amount of life shit - not relationship shit, we're fine, external to us that we're dealing with as a team. It's useful (and actually sometimes something that makes me like him more) when he is upfront about ho…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/24 10:13 PM
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You keep making claims like this. 'Cheating in the west seems to be normalised' 'Women in the West are encouraged to promiscuous and you can't trust a promiscuous woman' Do you have any evidence for that? Especially, as many people are pointing out, statistically speaking men cheat more. The evidence that is out there suggests that a man is more likely to cheat on his partner than a woman is. So where are you getting your evidence that all western women have poor morals and cheat all the time? A…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/24 07:45 AM
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I am sure hypergamy isn't real. Same way I'm sure dragons aren't real - there are lots of lizards and birds that have the sorts of things that could lead to myths about dragons, but the dragons themselves aren't real. There is a traditional view of marriage that the man is the provider and the woman stays at home to take care of the children. Ideally in that scenario neither partner would cheat, and historically lots of the cheating was the men. But also, that 'traditional' view of marriage isn'…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 04:53 PM
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Stop consuming any and all red pill content. It doesn't matter if they seem reasonable next to the straight up woman hater, their worldview is still nonsense. I frequently see women being cheated on and husbands leaving their wives on the discovery of a terminal illness. There is a risk in choosing to trust someone, regardless of their gender. Divorces can get nasty, but they aren't inherently nasty. My cousin and her ex got divorced and are still happily business partners and co-parents. Someti…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 01:49 PM
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Firstly, you should stop consuming red pill content. Secondly, you should consider if divorce is truly as scary as you think it is. Many people get divorced and it's not the life-ruining thing the red pill makes it out to be. People don't just get divorced for no reason - the relationship has already failed by that point. Do you want to be in a situation where the relationship is well and truly over but neither of you can leave that arrangement? Don't be scare mongered into choosing a path that …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 01:21 PM
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I'd probably say something like 'I'd like to see you again, when are you free?' And once you've got a time sorted out, figure out what you'll do. Other people might do it differently.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 11:44 AM
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Sure, but not getting the ideal response still doesn't mean automatically assuming it's the worst response. If her reply has put you off a bit then that's totally fair, you'd like someone who gives a clearer and more mature reply, regardless of what they're actually saying. That's totally reasonable. But don't make this a 'she totally lost interest for no reason' thing when you haven't actually got clear evidence that she has lost interest. Feel free to call it quits, but recognise that you're c…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 11:34 AM
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I mean... on all you've said it sounds to me like there isn't a bar she's interested in going to, not that she doesn't want to go on another date altogether.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/24 11:29 AM
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Yes, women exclusively fall for the people who give them the best food. /s The idea is nonsense about woman and probably also about dogs.
/r/ExRedPill12/01/24 01:08 PM
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Speaking as an very much non-redpilled adult woman who reads a lot of romance books - it means she likes romance books.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/24 12:09 AM
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She's a grifter for many reasons. Don't listen to her.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/23 11:15 PM
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We celebrated 10 years together last month, coming up on 2 years married. And, well, we're trying for a baby together and I'd say we're definitely still into each other physically.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 01:22 PM
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Mostly just hung out. Maybe once a month or something we'd go out for a meal, but probably not. Mostly he came round to my shared house and we'd eat and watch TV - often also with my housemates. Alternatively we'd go to his, eat pasta and probably play video games.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 01:17 PM
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Well I live with my husband so I see him every day. When we weren't living together we saw each other maybe 4-5 times a week, maybe more, it's been a long time since then. We didn't live together for the first three years of our relationship, but we did live nearby each other/in the same city. I occasionally go on holiday with the women I lived with at university, so those days I don't see him. We usually message daily whilst I'm away though. We do not have sex every day. We are currently trying…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 01:08 PM
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She might call herself a feminist, but her actions are not in line with that claim. So either she's not a feminist or she's a hypocrite. Up to you which you think. I had a class at university on genetics and human behaviour and how it's all way, way more complex than we think. So I'd take anything claiming a definitive biological attractiveness with a pinch of salt.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/23 01:02 PM
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I'd go to r/bropill. They'll support you in your own journey but aren't dedicated to keeping you in the crab bucket.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 02:02 PM
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Then his actions aren't demonstrating a true desire to change. Actions speak louder than words. He's not irredeemable, because very few people are, but if he's not talking the talk and walking the walk then he is not yet redeemed. Don't stick with someone who treats you poorly just because one day he might not. It's ok to have boundaries around how you want to be treated and if he's not doing that then respect yourself and your boundaries and leave.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 01:30 PM
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Well for starters I just don't think most people are irredeemable. I think that if someone has learned, shows remorse, and can consistently show actions which work to mitigate any damage caused (that they can mitigate) and which demonstrates that they no longer partake in the harmful actions or belief systems then there is no reason to keep punishing them. People may choose to not associate with them for it, and that's those people's boundaries. But if no one can ever move on or be forgiven for …
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 01:21 PM
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Only you can know if you can forgive him and what it would take for you to trust that he has changed. I don't think he is irredeemable, but it's up to you what you feel you can or cannot get past.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 12:06 PM
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'In the right' is weird phrasing. It's 'okay' to leave anyone for any reason - as in, no one can or should make someone else stay in a relationship if they no longer want to be in it. People have the right to leave or end a relationship whenever they want for any reason. Doesn't mean their reason is a good one or that some reasons don't reflect badly on the person making the choice. In this case, the person is in their rights to leave for any reason at all. But they sure look like a shallow assh…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/23 10:41 PM
2

We can't control what we feel, but we can control how we respond to and act on those feelings. It is the responsibility of all adults, regardless of gender, to work on being able to react to their emotions in ways that don't harm others or themselves.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 08:29 PM
0

There is no medical precedent for right to life to outweigh the right to bodily autonomy.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 09:59 PM
7

There is no medical precedent for right to life outweighing right to bodily autonomy. I was asked for an example of oppression. If we say it is oppression, then I have answered the question.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 12:34 AM
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Look at the abortion laws there, then you tell me.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 12:43 PM
9

Hello, you've not been around for a while. Hope you're doing okay! That being said, I notice there really hasn't been any change since the last time you were here. You're still in pain and angry, both of which is understandable but ultimately not helping you. I've talked to you lots about these things previously, it doesn't seem that you've considered those conversations much? Are you still taking your meds and seeing your therapist? Are you familiar with the YouTuber FD Signifier? He's a black …
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 09:41 AM
3

Choirs. They're usually a nice bunch of people and they're often looking for lower voices and have a lot of women. You can also look for choirs which have a good range of ages - I'm in one that's specifically for 18-35 year olds so am meeting lots of people who would be within my dating range (I am married, so I am not doing that, but I have made a lot of friends). If they also go to the pub/go for a quick drink afterwards (you do not have to have alcohol, you do not have to get wasted - I never…
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 03:57 PM
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Why makes it not possible to distance yourself from redpill ideas? Because that's really the way you deal with this. Yes, redpill ideas and redpill believers will try to destroy your relationship. Either because they genuinely think you're doing it 'wrong' (even though you're both happy) or because they get angry when other people are doing ok.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 02:15 PM
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I disagree because "This doesn't apply for everyone but it's a very common phenomenon." It doesn't apply to me and it's not something I've ever experienced in my circle of friends or really heard from others. So I disagree because my experiences just vastly differ from yours.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 09:17 AM
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There is a field of study called evolutionary psychology. It has been highly criticised for relying on untestable hypotheses, unfalsifiable claims, and leaning on often contradictory 'ultimate explanations' to name but a few issues. It also leans hard into genetic determinism (which is why Pills tend to like it) and willingly lends itself to malevolent political or moral ideas. The main thing is that there are probably some things we can learn from evolutionary psychology. At the very least, the…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 11:45 AM
1

Yeah that would probably help
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 09:54 PM
9

Has the red pill warped my view of women as a whole? Almost definitely yes.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 11:39 AM
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I don't understand whether they lie to us because of virtue signalling or if women who complain haven't yet realized that Tinder is a hookup app, not a relationship app, as men seem eager to give average and below women a chance for a relationship too on the right platform. It's interesting to me that you did your 'experiment' and when you found something you didn't think was bad, you pretty much immediately went to the idea that women must be LYING and VIRTUE SIGNALLING or just too stupid to re…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/23 11:27 AM
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Fair enough, I think some people just see being online as a license to be creepy.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 07:28 AM
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Generally speaking I've found that it's because there are a group of men (not all of them, but a high enough number) who are so weird on dating apps. And not in an 'oh they're a bit awkward' way more like in a 'sending dick pics / telling women to die / getting really gross and mean' way. And that makes women just leave the apps. Or, not even join them, because networks between women are strong, and even if you've not personally been on an app we all have one or two friends who've been on and ma…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/23 09:25 PM
3

I mean, it definitely sounds like you have negative thought spirals that lead to disordered eat. Whether or not you have something actually diagnosable isn't something redditors can tell you.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 12:41 PM
3

Are you familiar with the phrase 'Lies, damn lies, and statistics'?
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 02:51 PM
1

I'd recommend one. I think that's some good insight about your reasons for having an altered perception of women and that a therapist would likely really help you unpack it further.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 11:51 AM
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I'd really encourage you to stop using the word 'females' to describe women. Partially because it's just not grammatically correct, and partially because it's quite othering/medicalising/treating women like a different species. The phrase 'involuntary celibate' was invented by a woman, and to be honest it mostly just meant 'lonely and also wishing they had a romantic/sexual partner' which isn't exactly a gendered experience. It's just that the term/idea got taken by the manosphere and began to b…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/23 10:58 PM
13

Best way to change is to build up consistent new habits and get yourself out of old ones. Easier said than done, a therapist or counsellor can help with that. As can some life-coaches.
/r/ExRedPill30/01/23 10:17 AM
2

You look into confirmation bias.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 06:48 PM
3

They're huge assholes. The blackpill takes small, often unimportant, facts that everyone agrees is true and not important, and makes them sound like they're world ending truths that only a few people know. The truth is usually the small, boring, unimportant form.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 06:01 PM
2

Most people experience a mix of responsive and spontaneous desire. Here's a youtube video from a sex educator about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9VG82JA1NQ&ab_channel=HannahWitton The idea that it doesn't 'bode well' for the future or relationships is a bit overkill imo. People still get into relationships and form strong connections etc. Society isn't doomed because a study found women are more likely to respond positively to sexual advances without making the first move themselves. For…
/r/ExRedPill02/01/23 05:51 PM
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I've seen this discussed multiple times in the feminist spaces because the answer is that it's not ok, but that fact hasn't permeated through society yet. In the spaces I'm in the conversation has very much been that while Tate is a vile human being and we're all pretty pleased he's been arrested, we very much wish she'd used a different way to insult him because attacking someone for a physical and unchangeable trait sucks. Someone being a bad person doesn't make it ok to body shame (or be raci…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 04:07 PM
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I'm just wondering what you're expecting us to say? Obviously that's a bad thing to do and yes I would call out a friend who did that and if I lost the friendship for it then good, I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who was using other people.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 01:29 PM
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So, no. Lots of people like meeting in person still. I'm in lots of friend groups where we all met online and it's so exciting to finally meet in person! I also have friends who have started relationships where they met online and started talking there and then met in person. I also have friends who I don't think are particularly 'top X%' of attractiveness who have met their partners through dating apps. Realistically if society did move to an entirely dating app based way of meeting people (the…
/r/ExRedPill08/12/22 02:25 PM
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You know an awful lot about women and how they think despite not being one and clearly not having been in any relationships. Again, people who have way more experience than you (i.e. women and men who are in relationships with them) are telling you that you are categorically wrong. But you don't believe them because... why? It's like going into a math class and insisting that 2+2=7. Why? Well because you just know stuff about the number 2 no one else does. Everyone else in the classroom who have…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 12:51 PM
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I don't know why you think this would be protecting anyone's 'virtue'? There is nothing virtuous or not about if someone finds someone else attractive. Your 'us' vs 'them' viewpoint is not healthy and is not giving you an accurate understanding of the world. Women really aren't some other separate group or species. In fact, multiple people here have said they're in relationships where they feel their partner is sexually interested in them/women are saying they find plenty of men hot/attractive. …
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 12:42 PM
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'I hate this thing and it causes me distress, but I absolutely will not accept anyone telling me why it might not be as bad as it feels and/or I will purposefully ignore anything that could refute my opinions even though they are actively hurting me.' If you're going to ignore and dismiss everyone who disagrees with you or everything you see that doesn't fit your opinion because you don't think the people telling you stuff are telling the truth... then idk what to tell you man. Literally everyon…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 12:08 PM
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That's still not something that someone needs in order to be attractive.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 02:08 PM
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Oh, you're really young. Definitely stop forcing yourself to work out if it's upsetting you. Yeah, it's fine to focus on school. Yes, there are lots of people at university and if you put the effort into socialising it's a good way to meet people and make friends. There are also lots of societies you'll be able to join across a range of interests etc.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 10:07 AM
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Socialise and meet people in spaces where you will see them regularly/consistently and have the ability to talk to them/make friends. These can be things like hobbies - hiking groups, choirs, sports (ideally co-ed but making male friends and then meeting people through them is also totally fine) etc. You name it there's probably a group for it. Think about the stuff you like doing or the stuff you've always though 'wow it'd be cool if I could do that'. Choose some. Find groups doing those things…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:34 AM
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No. Having a six pack is not necessary in order to be considered attractive. Having a six pack will not make it more likely to have someone like you for you. If getting a six pack is causing you this level of general distress, then clearly it's not good for you and that may make it less likely to help. Having a six pack may occasionally get you some attention, but the chances are that it would be shallow attention that would not progress into anything meaningful that you seem to want. To find a …
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:09 AM
8

'Don't trust therapists' how? What about them don't you trust?
/r/ExRedPill22/11/22 04:43 AM
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There are different ways to be a misogynist. He doesn't (always) actively spew hate, but promoting ideas about women than you accept are outdated and reductionist also does a fair bit of harm. Especially when he's talking to a group of men and teens who are taking his word for everything and also likely to be looking for advice in communities that will take the ideas JP espouses and turn them into more hateful things. I also just think his philosophical rigour is fairly poor.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 12:07 AM
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One of the first things to do is stop engaging with pill content. I also reco Contrapoints video Incels. Just because I think it's good and it shows a bit more how people outside those bubbles view the whole manosphere. H.Bomberguy has a similar type of video, but his is a bit more taking the piss which might not be where you're at yet.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 12:03 AM
2

Leave your girlfriend.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 12:18 AM
2

Basically every comment is saying that they would leave a woman pushing the red pill nonsense, asking which bits she's pushing (and then following up by saying it's bullshit and you should probably leave her) or just telling you that she is pushing toxic ideas that you've taken on board and that you should leave her. Leave her. She's clearly bad for your mental health.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 12:17 AM
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We're literally not? We've all taken you seriously and said she sounds like a bad person and you should leave. None of us have said 'bet she's not real'. We've all gone 'wow she sounds like she sucks, redpill from women is still redpill and therefore toxic'. Not sure where you're getting the impression that this sub is against this idea.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 12:11 AM
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But... We ARE talking about it. Right now. Also, the ideas are bullshit regardless of the gender pushing them. I don't think anyone here would suggest that redpill is fine if it's a woman saying it. The ideas are bad.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 12:09 AM
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My bad, you just have a very similar story to someone who has been here a lot with a partner who pushes redpill ideas and tells him women can't be wrong. Just take out the first part of the sentence. The rest of the reply still stands.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/22 12:00 AM
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Same way we've felt every time you've talked about this woman - you should leave her. Women can be wrong. Women can be abusive. It is better to be alone than with someone who makes you feel like shit. I don't think she'll see that she's 'the bad guy' and I think trying to prove that to her is a waste of your time.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/22 11:49 PM
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But why wouldn't she tell me I am bothering her? Needs her friend to do so. Not like I wanted something you fat ass. Yeah this whole sentence makes you sound like someone nice to be around...
/r/ExRedPill01/11/22 04:26 PM
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From what I've heard of dating apps, I'm not sure this is the best advice - people who swipe right on lots of profiles are often hit sort of considered 'spammers' and pushed down by the algorithm. This is just something I've heard, I can't say for sure if it's true or not.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/22 04:25 PM
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The short answer is no. The longer answer: Most women who are having casual sex aren't thinking about if they might get pregnant with the guys kid and if he's therefore make a good dad ('just' genetically or actively). Mostly they're thinking about sex and should have taken protection against pregnancy. The couple should also do things in the moment to protect against pregnancy. There is a fear for women who are having sex and can get pregnant but don't want to be that it could happen. But I've …
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 11:00 PM
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But... she's not a slut? (I don't like the word and don't think she would be anyway, but by your own reasoning) She's not actually DONE any of those things? She just said that she'd be open to it if you guys weren't together. So, clearly, she's not intending to do anything like that whilst you guys are together and she entered into your relationship knowing that she'd rather be with you than do those things (otherwise, she'd have stayed single). Yeah, your relationship may one day end, but that …
/r/ExRedPill27/10/22 12:23 PM
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Lol. I mean, I have no idea what my IQ is so for all I know it is less than 120, but given that I have several philosophy degrees, I feel pretty confident in my ability to discuss ethics. But you know what, you continue to hold views you admit you understand are toxic and insisting that you're really Very Clever. GLHF.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/22 03:23 PM
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In the case where you actively hold disgust and (by your own words) toxic beliefs, I think it's pretty clear cut.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/22 03:06 PM
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I can almost promise you that you're no way near as good at hiding your toxic beliefs as you think you are. I also think that toxic beliefs are bad in and of themselves. I would be saying the same if you said you held active disgust for black people or similar - it doesn't matter if you don't think you're acting on them, holding them is still wrong.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/22 02:42 PM
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Holding disgust for 50% of the population does kind of make you a bad person.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/22 02:26 PM
1

For which bit?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 10:07 PM
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It definitely feels that way to you, because you see loads of comments saying the same things so it looks like it's 'most' people. But there's no way to know that, I could probably find a lot of people who are saying either that they broke up for entirely different reasons, or that the guy was the one who cheated/'monkey branched', or a couple that did stay together and are happy etc. I could find videos with millions of views and thousands of comments saying to never trust men and how men left …
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 10:03 PM
1

Just because you're emotional about something and some other people have had the same experience doesn't make it the norm.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:55 PM
2

No, you couldn't. A youtube video is not a source no matter how many views it gets. You can find exactly the same of women saying those things about men, should no one ever have a relationship just in case?A close family friend recently had her marriage of 39 years end because it turns out he'd cheated multiple times - with the same person - for over 15 years. He hasn't shown any remorse at all. Therefore, there is no point in dating any men. DON'T TRUST MEN AT ALL!' I get that you're angry and …
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:49 PM
2

By pointing out all the times when that hasn't been the case? Sounds like you've had one shitty experience with a woman and have decided that's how all women are.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:40 PM
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I have absolutely no ability to tell how big your dick is or how tall you are. I know you're taller than me... then that's all I've got, I can't even really visualise how much taller. I know I'd rather not ever really be around someone who uses phrases like 'giga-manlet' seriously though. Also, what's the point in this scenario? It very much can't actually happen and it seems to just be feeding your own insecurities rather than helping you understand that you're the one really sticking to these …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 07:34 PM
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That's about believing them enough to investigate their claims.* Not 'believe everything any woman says without question'. I am a woman. I think she's wrong. What are you going to do now you have to believe both of us? (The answer is use your own faculties to investigate the claims and come to your own conclusions and not take anything with unquestioning acceptance just because of someone's gender) Also the phrase is 'believe women' not the 'believe *all** women'. It's just about believing women…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 01:02 PM
5

Those are terrible reasons to stay in an abusive relationship. She isn't a 'strong black woman', she's an abuser. Stop listening to her assessments of your value, she's wrong. Do you genuinely think you'd worse off not being abused? You do not have to take abuse.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 12:40 PM
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Speaking as an average woman who is very happily married to an average man, I call bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 06:50 AM
3

I don't think all that many people actually want to be victims. The people who do often haven't actually been one. You were a victim of abuse, that's not your fault and of course it's going to cause trauma for you that you didn't want, ask for, or deserve. But how you deal with that trauma is still on you - it's how you take back control of your life and understanding of your victimhood. Something bad happened to you that you didn't deserve and wasn't your fault, unfortunately it is now your res…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 09:59 PM
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So, firstly I want to make sure we're clear that 'held accountable' is not the same as 'punished'. Definitely mental illness is not an excuse or reason not to make effort to correct behaviours that harm others. But equally, if someone has a diagnosis but is controlling it appropriately, then all is well and if someone has behaved poorly previously they shouldn't be ostracised once they have shown consistent effort and progress towards doing better. I'm very sorry you dealt with that abuse, you d…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 09:40 PM
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Speaking as someone who supports my spouse and is treated like a therapist by one of my friends. There's a big big difference. I am about to go to sleep so can't explain it right now, but it's there.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 12:12 AM
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Isn't it weird how you can see stats that just don't reflect your lived experience at all? Almost every couple I know the woman is older (including my own). If I had to guess at an explanation for the general trend, I'd say that it is commonly held that women mature faster than men (I don't know if I agree, but it is a commonly asserted idea). But it does lead to a socialisation where women are 'ready to settle down' (or at least expected to) at a younger age. So it leads to the situation where …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 11:07 AM
3

The short answer is no, it's not over for autistic men. If it was, no autistic men would ever enter into relationships and that is not the case. Sounds like you've got some major internalised ableism about being autistic/neurodivergent, at the very least. Whilst these feelings are understandable as it's a lot of the messaging in society/media, they shouldn't be taken as truth.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 06:39 AM
2

Where did I say it's the same as a man doing it to a woman? All I said is that some colleagues have said inappropriate things about men and I have challenged them on it.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 06:39 AM
8

My closest friends have never said anything I would consider misandrist, I wouldn't maintain a friendship with someone who commonly and repeatedly said things against an entire other gender/actively hated men. I have called out colleagues for commenting on men's bodies in a way I felt was inappropriate and objectifying. Both in terms of comments/jokes about height and/or penis size (never directed at a specific man, more general) and in terms of reducing a man just to some of his physical attrib…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 05:02 PM
1

I work in healthcare. In the more admin/project related side, so not a nurse etc. but still feel very proud of what I do and I know it helps a lot of people (the clinics wouldn't run without me/the other admin staff).
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:45 PM
8

Stop following trad wife accounts. You have power over which instagram accounts you follow. Start following accounts from Muslim women who are out there absolutely rocking it - there's a woman named Nadiya who won a baking competition in the UK a few years ago. She loves her family and her kids and also tours and writes books etc. So she's on the more 'traditional' end of things but still very much has her own life and work. There will be others like her. Get a job you actually like? Like, I'm s…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 07:43 AM
6

Not their fault, still their responsibility
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 06:38 PM
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Not necessarily. I think they lack empathy, which means their morals/drive can be cruel and self-serving (which often backfires for them).
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 08:18 AM
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I second the point that "females" is a big give away. A human adult female is a woman, use the word woman instead. It will reflect much better on you and also might help you stop seeing women as something 'other'. Additionally, there are plenty of women who are mentally and emotionally stable (as much as any person can be) and not 'run through' (this is a gross phrase, stop using it). It felt bad for you to sleep around and you're looking for someone to settle down with - arguably anyone who has…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 08:17 AM
7

It's not only for women, my husband is demisexual. He characterises it as not really finding people attractive (sexually or romantically) until he has gotten to know them/knows them well.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 05:09 PM
4

Based on... ?
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 04:55 PM
12

Do you think all women represented by female dating strategy?
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 12:32 PM
1

I think it's a Family Systems based group (lesser known, trauma based). It's a charity/free program but needed to be referred by a GP. It is all free.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 07:04 PM
1

Therapy, really. A friend of mine is currently working on their attachment style through group based trauma therapy. The aim of the therapy group is to process what reactions/thoughts/feelings their insecure attachment causes and how to manage those, combined with being supported to form healthy attachments with other people in the group. The thought process is that the supported healthy attachments will provide an example/framework for healthier attachments outside the group.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 01:22 PM
4

Depends if the person you're trying to impress likes that look. Nothing will guarantee you a partner and not everyone finds really buff gym bodies attractive.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 02:09 PM
4

Stop looking at Rollo, Tate and Man Talk. Remove yourself from those spaces. They're making things worse not better. They're also way more extreme and toxic than you seem to think, which in itself is concerning.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 10:28 AM
2

No more or less than intelligent women struggle with men. My sister once commented that 'dating is easier if you're not very clever' (she was talking about all genders here). Firstly, there's a big range of what counts as 'intelligence' so it's hard to quantify anyway. Secondly, lots of people find it important to meet someone who they respect intellectually / consider their intellectual equal. It's about compatibility, not some objective view of intelligence.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 12:19 PM
3

I read and responded to your post. What do you think I missed?
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 03:32 PM
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Out of interest, why do you think this is specifically something feminists do? I'm aware of a thread in a different sub currently that's discussing if autistic men are more likely to become incels and there's a whole range of answers there from feminists - almost all of those answers acknowledge the additional difficulties in dating and the vulnerability to the alt-right/incel pipeline. There's a whole lot of conversation about what makes something a disability or not, and if you find your autis…
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 03:07 PM
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I don't think I would praise or condemn someone for how many people they'd slept with before meeting/being with me. I would care, if they had a lot of previous partners, that they had been appropriately safe/tested for STI's, but if that was clear/treatable/they were upfront about if they had something. Then that's fine. I definitely wouldn't prefer men who've been with lots of previous partners. But it wouldn't rule them out either. It's more of a neutral statement. If they've got a high body c…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 05:37 PM
5

I mean, I feel like this caveat is unnecessary. Especially as at no point did I specify that the listening should be 'unconditional'. It is not unreasonable for a person to expect their romantic partner to listen to them when they talk - at least most of the time. On the assumption that they're reasonable human beings who like each other's company and opinions. If the person doesn't want to listen to their partner / thinks they talk shit then it sounds like they're not well suited for each other…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:50 PM
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This! SO much this. I've only ever seen comments about the 'bar being low' for things like girls saying 'my boyfriend is so nice because he listens when I speak!' and it's like... yeah, he should listen when you speak that should be an expectation not a perk!
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 02:32 PM
1

When people tell you you've got dissonance and confirmation bias, that doesn't mean that the stuff you've been seeing isn't true/isn't happening. It just means you're probably ignoring (consciously or otherwise) the times when those things aren't happening. So for example, you noticed with your co-worker (who, yikes, yeah she's not great is she?) that there was another woman there who seemed to be annoyed by what she was saying. Equally you don't necessarily know if anyone else there disagreed b…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 10:18 AM
17

... Women also need to provide for themselves.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 12:06 PM
1

If I recall correctly we've had conversations here quite a lot about how you live in a small town where most people already know you. You then go to a slightly bigger place and observe - but you don't have opportunities to actually meet people and form connections with them (e.g. in hobby groups, interests, through mutual friends). The difference would be going to a place that has more social opportunities for you to then make connections with people who have similar interests and view points to…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 10:14 AM
10

Ah yes. If there's no one in the nearby mall the next option is to move country.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 11:05 PM
7

r/IncelExit might be somewhere you like. I like a lot of left-y youtube channels. Start with Contrapoint's 'Incels' and go from there.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:28 PM
14

I mean, you should probably try just being in a bigger city/not in your very small town first...
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:26 PM
3

'90%' Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:24 PM
21

It really feels like you're mixing up what people do in bed with how the rest of their relationship functions.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 01:44 PM
2

Legitimately how would that even work? 25 is less than 1/3 of most people's life spans these days (in economically ok countries at least). It's really very, very easy to observe that clearly being attractive/desirable/having a good life regardless of how much interest men have in you isn't 'over' by the age of 25.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 08:09 AM
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The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is some women might be like, some women won't be like that. The longer answer is that if it only applies to some people not all of them, then it can't be in their 'nature' can it? You can't have something that's supposedly biologically hardwired into a group that only some of that group do. That's not how 'nature' works. So even if they're 'true' about the behaviours of some women, they are wrong about the 'nature' of women.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 09:27 AM
2

Depends on the woman. Some will, some won't. I don't know many people who actively value low intelligence, but they likely will value having intelligence/skills in non-academic ways. Or at the very least not be turned off/away by someone who just needs a little more time to process things. The only way I can see it potentially being an issue would be if you use it as an excuse not to help/do things. Like 'oh I always forget to do the washing up, maybe you should do it' etc. If you did that for e…
/r/ExRedPill05/08/22 08:17 AM
2

Congratulations! You've found some harmful and outdated societal ideas about relationships and the roles of men and women. They suck. The next question is - what do we do about them? The good news! The answer isn't to regress into 'trad wives' or similar, it's to seek out likeminded people and to promote the idea of equality in relationships (platonic and romantic). There are plenty of women out in the world who don't think these things. You've just got to find them.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 06:41 PM
3

Yeah, this would make much more sense if it weren't for the fact that it's literally 'master key' vs 'shitty lock' and you go on to explain that 'another way of putting it' is that men who have lots of sex are assumed to have an attractive quality and women who do have associated less favourable attributes. All you've done in your reply is explain why one is viewed as 'good' and one is viewed as 'bad'. Because men are often the pursuers and women are viewed as gate keepers, and this phrase/some …
/r/ExRedPill03/08/22 07:39 AM
17

The daily mail is very much not a source I would massively trust. My thoughts are 'have your own personal boundaries and sexual integrity and then if what other people do isn't harming anyone then it doesn't matter'.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 07:06 PM
11

I mean, applies how? What about casual sex makes a person a lock or a key and why are they 'good' or 'bad' based on that?
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 06:19 PM
22

Counter - humans and their bodies aren't locks/keys or sharpeners/pencils. They might be analogies but neither really works given that one is talking about objects with specific functions and the other is about human beings.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 10:24 AM
4

The false dichotomy you've created is just that - something false that you've made up. It is entirely possible for you to drop your belief system and have more fulfilling relationships. The therapy you understand you need will help with that. There are ways to not be a doormat that don't involve being an angry dickhead and there are ways not to be lonely that don't involve red pill ideology.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/22 03:14 PM
7

but what you're really doing is you're destroying the natural God-given order of things Good. This was what made the nuclear family possible for millennias Nuclear families as we know them definitely have not functioned like this for millennia.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/22 10:40 AM
12

Sounds like with it you're in a different and unchanging crappy situation. So seems like learning from the past and dropping the belief system you know is harming you might be the best path, no?
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 10:29 PM
19

I promise you, therapists have heard way weirder shit. It's their job.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 10:28 PM
3

Red pill preys on people who are unhappy for a variety of reasons, having a good job doesn't mean he was necessarily not unhappy in other ways. Yes, I think that 'love' (that is, a deep connection between people that endures) exists. I don't think it matters if this person was 'officially' red pilled or not.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 08:05 PM
34

Through red pill, I learned everything I needed to know about why someone like me can't be loved The red pill has lied to you.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 07:37 PM
3

Good to know you consider anything with a 10% chance is 'impossible'. Also, please could I see these studies you're getting your stats from?
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 08:41 AM
2

Good thing most people are average.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 07:43 AM
3

'well duh' - my dude you're the one who has spent the whole time telling someone else/arguing that it's impossible for autistic men to get dates and no women will ever want them when that claim is false. All I was pointing out was that clearly there are some autistic people who do find and have relationships. Therefore, it is not 'impossible'. If it can happen for some people there's no reason any individual should assume they are automatically unable to date. Again, I'm not arguing about words,…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 07:40 AM
3

You misunderstood that this statement does not necessarily lead to your conclusion that all autistic men are 'doomed' or 'inferior'. Statistics of a demographic shouldn't be used on an individual level like that.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 06:45 AM
2

No? I'll add reading comprehension alongside 'how to understand statistics' as something you seem to struggle with.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 06:41 AM
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You have a wildly incorrect understanding of the use of statistics. Also, you can't make absolutist statements when there is direct evidence against that absolute.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 06:39 AM
4

I was actually talking to someone earlier today and noticed that within my family there are two autistic men who are married to (tbh I am assuming but they're my relatives so I know them quite well) neurotyptical women. Just one example of a woman being in a relationship with an autistic man would.rpove you wrong in that statement. And I know three autistic men who have had and continue to have relationships, and that's just the ones I happen to know. I also have a friend who is definitely not n…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 11:12 PM
2

'to assume makes an ass out of u not me'. A fun little spelling memory aid that also warns against the danger of making assumptions. I've read a lot of romance books, my favourites especially have quite a diverse range of male love interests. But I'm sure you'll be able to tell me with certainty what appeals to me even as I tell you I disagree. So you continue to know what almost 4 billion people like and I'll continue on with my life.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 08:38 PM
2

Ah yes. Porn and erotic literature, things that evidence who people like and end up with in real-life.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 07:43 PM
2

Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 06:38 PM
1

I also love my friends, different type of love, but definitely love. Are you suggesting that romantic love simply doesn't exist? If you're saying romantic love doesn't exist, instead people just have... a deep emotional bond with someone who they respect, admire, sleep with, build a life with, share thoughts and feelings with, some may choose to raise children with, and a whole lost of other things? What would you call that if not love? I'm not about to sit here and say 'most people on the plane…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 10:04 PM
2

How does that work if my husband is the person who's demi? Or are you saying that I'm a perfect masculine charismatic extroverted woman? Because, I don't think I'd fit many of the (to be fair, fairly nonsense) ideals of masculinity... but hey, I'll take the rest as a compliment.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 09:59 PM
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So firstly, you are still really very young, you've got loads of time to meet women who click with you without having to force yourself to be or do something that doesn't come naturally to you. However, I would encourage you to develop your interpersonal skills as much as you can - own who you are, but don't ignore opportunities to expand your interests or skills if things are interesting to you. There is no shame in learning something new! Even if that new thing is something it seems like every…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 09:07 PM
9

How old are you? I think you are catastrophising the outcomes of flirting the way your friend suggests. People certainly can find those creepy, but firstly, not everyone does and secondly, there are ways to flirt with people and still be respectful. It is exceptionally unlikely that someone would report you for flirting, especially if they express discomfort and you back off when they do. People get reported for repeatedly crossing boundaries, not for trying to flirt and the other person saying …
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 08:48 PM
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Firstly, unless what you consider 'flirtatious' would involve assaulting someone, it's very unlikely you'd 'end up in jail'. Although I can't comment on whether or not you'd lose your dignity. The thing about flirting is that it can look different to different people - the chances are that when you meet someone who responds to your form of flirting they're also more likely to be someone who likes you back. You don't have to be 'flirty' in a set way, your way is fine it just might narrow your opt…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 08:26 PM
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So, for starters I think you should probably be keeping your dating pool within communities that already share your values around sex before marriage, dating with the intention to marry, and a desire to have children. Dating in wider society will cast your net further but if those things are all deal breakers for you, may as well look to the groups that also share those deal breakers. Secondly, I think it might help you to understand that there's life well beyond 30. You won't become a cat lady …
/r/ExRedPill22/07/22 08:18 AM
1

Yes, because there can be a lot of attraction, fun and affection in finding someone who you view as your equal and who views you as theirs.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 04:48 PM
2

Fairly often. It's a quite annoying. It's one of the reasons I used to be most comfortable with male friends who had partners, or befriending my friend's partners. They were already 'off the table' so it they were way less likely to be push boundaries with me or even want to. It's happened to me a few times, mostly it was fairly harmless and they weren't a close friend to start with. It just became obvious quite early on that they said 'friendship' and meant 'eventually we'll date' and I didn't …
/r/ExRedPill15/07/22 11:11 PM
1

Youtube is not a credible source, even if I agreed with the content it's not a source. Everything you say has such a set of assumptions about how women 'are' these days and they just fundamentally don't align with any of my experiences. Which means, at the very least, your assumption isn't society-wide/common enough for it to be the case that it's so prevalent I am also seeing those behaviours. There's no point in us discussing this because it's going to keep being you making assumptions about w…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 03:13 PM
1

A random youtube video is definitely not a credible source. The Psychology article only sites four sources: Outlines the divorce statistics (which show these rates have remained stable and sit at a 40 year low, btw). There is no analysis here, just data. Is the source I think you're actually trying to talk about (rather than some random youtube video) and it's this one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X21001299 It shows a much more nuanced view than your 'sources' and a…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 02:32 PM
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Psychology today is not a particularly compelling source. The rest of the stuff you said needs citations. Also, seems like more of an issue with 'society' as a whole than 'women'. Your anger and cynicism is misplaced.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 02:09 PM
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Presumably because the person they're marrying also wants to commit to a life and (maybe, assuming its what they want) kids with the man. It's not rocket science. Women also want commitment and to build a life with someone. Hence 'women are also just people'. If we take the non-shallow reading then it also becomes non-gendered. 'They're not yours, it's just your turn'. Anyone can break off a relationship because they cheat or change their minds or 'get's taken' (although, re: treat people as peo…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 01:50 PM
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This is from 2 years ago. Please explain your reasoning, because... I don't know how you got from 'hey, treat people like people' to 'men have a strong reason not to commit to women in marriage'.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 01:37 PM
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Almost all studies suggest that peak fertility in women is actually from about 25-32. So, again, you haven't even hit the peak of fertility yet, let alone it being over. As for 'options', that depends on what you're looking for in a partner as well as a whole load of other factors. If it's just about the brute number of other people who are single I guess maybe? But options in terms of knowing what you want and finding someone who is actually compatible with you, isn't really something with a ti…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 09:43 AM
2

How are you defining 'prime'? Because at 20, I promise you you've probably not even started being in it yet, let alone reached its end.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 07:58 AM
4

One of my friends is getting a bit upset that she's not got a long term partner etc yet. (We're 28/29). But the thing is that she isn't going to settle to get 'any' relationship, she's not going to compromise what she wants in order to get something similar.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 12:15 PM
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One of the best ways to do it would be to change your YouTube account to a new one and build up a new recommendations profile that doesn't give you black pilled videos. Generally I'd say 'stop watching them' but that's much easier to do it you're not being recommended them by the algorithm. You almost definitely will have the algorithm sending you BP and more extreme BP content because that's how the algorithm works.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/22 07:36 AM
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From your other comments you say you keep seeing memes of this idea that if you're not 6 foot it's over. So firstly, I would ask where you're seeing these memes and who is posting them? Are they being shared for the 'humour' or are they being shared and repeated as fact? Who is making jokes - and, what is the joke? It is a joke because people think it's absurd? Is it a joke because people think it's true? Which groups are making those jokes (e.g. the reddit 'thatsnothowgirlswork' would be using …
/r/ExRedPill01/07/22 10:01 AM
1

Fair play, I did say no one and you did show me that some people are.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 01:23 PM
2

One article from 2012 in an Ethics journal is not exactly people advocating for a change in laws or campaigning around abortion. It also doesn't support your 'the extremists are the loudest' idea when your evidence is one article from 10 years ago that I'd never, ever heard of. I disagree with their conclusion, but as the editor's defence for the publication of the article in general states - the argument is pretty solid even if the conclusion is distasteful and can definitely be argued against.…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 12:31 PM
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No. Some women might act like that, but women as a whole are not inherently hypergamous by nature. Some of the big evidences presented is that you very rarely, almost never see rich woman going for poorer guy and instead you see them going for more well earning guy That is mostly anecdotal so not a great bit of evidence anyway. But most importantly, if what the red pill said was true then it would always be the case. If all women are hypergamous the way red pill suggests then it should not be po…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 10:16 AM
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No one is advocating for weeks after birth or pushing for infanticide. This is full of misinformation.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 10:07 AM
1

You don't have to 'confess' anything - confessing sounds like you did something wrong. You didn't, your ex wronged you. I think it's reasonable to tell a new partner that your previous relationship ended because your partner cheated, and probably to say something like how that really hurt you and might affect your behaviour going forward in the new relationship - you might take a little longer to trust them etc (whatever is true for you). I would say that I'd avoid saying something like it 'shat…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 10:03 AM
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Which parts of reddit are you getting that advice from?? Because almost all the advice in places like this and in incelexit are the exact opposite. Men need to have supportive friendships and family groups. That's the advice I see given pretty constantly - go and make friends.
/r/ExRedPill21/06/22 07:49 PM
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Anything that offers such a neat and simple explanation that covers the apparent thoughts, wants, and behaviours of over 3.9 billion people is wrong. There's really no way round that. There will always be people within that massive group for whom that explanation doesn't work. Even if only 1% of people didn't match that explanation (it will be more than that, but let's pretend it's only 1%) - that's still 39 million women for whom the red pill explanations are just wrong. Now if I presented any …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 09:32 AM
3

Better how? The thing is that it's such a nebulous idea. Better at what? In what way? There are many skills a person may be better at. It really depends on the people and relationship what might make a person tempted to leave for someone else. But also, it's one thing for someone to find another person interesting or attractive. It take A LOT for some one actually leave someone for someone else. That doesn't mean that people don't cheat, they do. Regardless of gender. Just that in a committed re…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 01:01 AM
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In much of our defence here - lots of us were just encouraging you to stick with the therapy! I'm glad you're seeing progress with your mental health and wish you all the best for future progress with your therapist and finding your own path!
/r/ExRedPill11/06/22 11:08 PM
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If I believed you could be convinced, I'd try. But I don't think you can, so why bother?
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 05:06 PM
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... I thought of loads of replies to this but honestly each time I realised I was either giving into some of the bullshit or just being mean, which didn't feel productive. Understand this: People are not refusing to engage because you are 'right'. They are responding negatively to you because you essentially walked into a room and declared that you are Very Clever and the sky is 100% tangerine coloured. There's not very much to say back to that other than 'no, you're just wrong'.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 02:39 PM
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Yes
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:10 PM
2

Not how girls work is not at all like redpill. I don't really know any of the others so can't comment on them.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 10:30 AM
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Are you familiar with 'A rising tide raises all ships'? Feminism is interested in the gender liberation of women, but to do that they need to dismantle all gender roles (something you seem to be a fan of). This is the on going thing, yeah there are issues that are unique to men and men are the best able to address those.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 12:37 PM
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Feminism is for men and women. But their focus is women. So there needs to be a movement led by men that works with and alongside feminism to reach greater liberation for men. I'm asking you what sort of practical things or movement ideas you can think of to reach those goals. Rather than just saying 'thing bad'. I do the same thing as part of my feminism - sexual harassment is bad, what can we do about it? Gender roles are bad, what can we do about them? So, men are feeling disenfranchised, wha…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 12:12 PM
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I wasn't saying there has been no progress. I was just challenging the fact you always seem to act as though the progress has now stopped. Ok, the conversation hasn't really reached men yet. So, the question is how do we get it to reach men? Just complaining that it hasn't won't get you very far.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 12:04 PM
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*Time are changing. Not the same as times having already changed. Every time you post I notice a big disconnect between the world as it is and the world as you think it is. You always talk as though we've reached the end of things changing, everything is static now even though things changed in the past. And the now we're currently in should have X, Y, Z but doesn't and that means societal progress has failed. E.g. I've seen you say previously 'now we have equality' and in this post you talk abo…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 08:58 AM
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I am a woman who did not/does not act the way trp describes. If it were inherent/biologically determined for women to act that way, it would not be possible to have even one time where a woman does not act the way they describe. There are many examples of women not making their choices in line with trp. Therefore, trp is not accurately describing the innate behaviour of all women.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 08:48 AM
5

You are mentally ill. Treat your illness.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 10:23 AM
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I don't think your preferences are 'completely normal as a man' because there are loads of men who don't want those things and that doesn't make them less manly. I didn't say you couldn't have preferences, I even explicitly said 'so be it' regarding having that preference because to an extent we can't help what we like. But that doesn't mean that some of the underlying assumptions about what it means to be a man or be a woman are at the very least a bit too strictly binary to not have some under…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 10:45 PM
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I don't think your preferences are 'completely normal as a man' because there are loads of men who don't want those things and that doesn't make them less manly. I didn't say you couldn't have preferences, I even explicitly said 'so be it' regarding having that preference because to an extent we can't help what we like. But that doesn't mean that some of the underlying assumptions about what it means to be a man or be a woman are at the very least a bit too strictly binary to not have some under…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 10:45 PM
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I'd say sort of yes sort of no? No - you like what you like and assuming you don't treat women who don't meet that romantic ideal badly, then so be it. Yes - preferences don't exist in a vacuum and you seem to have a very set idea of what is masculine and what is feminine and what those roles entail. So much so that your very idea of manliness is tied to being 'stronger, faster, and more dominant' and you have ideas about what it means to be feminine. This seems a little limiting and unnecessari…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 10:33 PM
5

For what it's worth, most other feminist communities do not claim them. In fact some feminist subreddits don't even let them get linked / ban people who participate in FDS from participating as feminists elsewhere. On the basis that the people of FDS tend to steal feminist talking points and make them gross, rather than actually subscribing to feminist ideas. Sort of like how there are legitimate issues that men in society face, and then things like redpill come along and make it weird and gross…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 05:22 PM
12

Racism 100% fucking sucks and is horribly present in all facets of society, including dating. That being said there are clearly people who do like dark skinned folk even if they don't fit into the 'rapper or athlete' category. It's totally reasonable to be fucked off about racism. But don't let that nudge you into unnecessary binary thinking that only makes things harder for you.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 05:19 PM
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Right, so, some steps. Liking very large penises is a kink. You are in a kink forum. Most ladies you speak to in the general kink forum are into very large penises. Consider: They are in the kink forums because one of the things they like are very large penises. It's not a random collection of women off the street. It's a very specific, self-selecting, group of women who already have an interest in kinks in general, and who demonstrate a preference for large penises (a kink in itself). So, what …
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 09:55 PM
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Yes. I think that is a part of her specific kink and does not reflect much if anything about the views of the rest of society, especially people who are not involved in kink. I mean, there's whole fetishes about very small penises too. If you spoke to women with that view (on a kink site or otherwise) then you'd probably get a totally different response, wouldn't you? And it can't be the case that those women reflect a large proportion of society and that the person you spoke to on a kink site a…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 09:51 PM
5

Stop hanging out in fetish forums that push that narrative.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 09:42 PM
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To come in again, assuming this is the same person you mentioned in another place, you are literally talking to someone who would be a self-professed size queen. 'Either people are lying or I'm surrounded by size queens'. Well, my guess would be on the fetish forum page about large dicks, it's the latter. Which makes their opinions not reflective of women who are not size queens and their view of what a 'good/average size' is quite biased, wouldn't you say?
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 09:40 PM
8

... My dude. It doesn't matter if this person was a woman or not. The fact you're talking to someone specifically in a fetish forum means that their answers are automatically going to come from a perspective that already assumes 'bigger is automatically better (for my kink)'. For all we know she meant your size is average for members of a penis size fetish forum. That has absolutely zero bearing on a) what the rest of society thinks/what is average amongst most people (as opposed to people on a …
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 09:37 PM
4

On what forum did you meet/speak to this other person?
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 08:12 PM
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I mean I was told that 7.5-8 is quite an average size. Told by whom? But also yes it's all good and you should not be worried about this.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 08:01 PM
8

Any woman who is going to leave her long term partner for a random dude who sent just a dick pic - you probably don't want to be dating her anyway. Them being a thing and your partner being in situations where she would get them is still really weird and just doesn't seem all that likely?
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 07:59 PM
2

How would she know??
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 07:55 PM
7

I've never seen Rocky. But I've seen a lot of women who are very attached to goofy and/or odd men.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/22 05:10 PM
1

Who I think aren't very attractive? About 2. But I know more people who I think are very attractive who are single. The point isn't that no people I think are unattractive are single, it's that there are people who I think are unattractive who aren't single. So clearly different people have different definitions.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/22 04:32 PM
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This kind of reads like you 'get' a relationship and then you're done. Relationships take work. You don't just have it and now everything's good - you almost definitely will fight with them, you'll both have good days and bad days, you'll both make mistakes etc. Even (perhaps especially) a loving and supportive relationship is going to take ongoing work and commitment from the start until whenever/however it ends. Finding a partner is a hurdle, almost everyone has been there or is still in that …
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 08:20 AM
4

I think some of it is simply because they then view biology as unchangeable. It allows for this dooming approach of 'well, this is just how it is' and if red pill methods don't help that's also just biology etc. It removes a level of agency which can give a false sense of security - don't worry, don't change, don't grow as a person, this is all just biology and there's nothing you can do about it. To be clear, I don't think this is exclusive to red pill ideas - it appears in most places where pe…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 08:08 AM
5

Okey dokey, that's totally fine. I'm just wondering what were you hoping to get from this post?
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 08:02 AM
8

You can't choose or not choose to keep the sperm inside, that's not a choice that can be made. The choice must be made before the possibility of ejaculation. There are, of course, lots of forms of birth control and people who are having sex (casual or in relationships) should be on the same page regarding contraceptive use. But there are only two ways to stop sperm staying inside the uterus and the most common of those is the condom, which would be predominantly the choice made by the person wit…
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 07:33 PM
3

No, it wasn't clear because the phrase 'if a person makes a boy out of that person just because he dilutes your vagina' doesn't make much sense in English. Procreation isn't a right, necessarily. There are any number of reasons why someone might have a child with a partner who turns out not to be a good parent (note, I am not using gendered language here, I know parents who aren't very good regardless of their gender). Is there ever a time, in this scenario, where the person is responsible for t…
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 06:23 PM
9

I'm sorry I don't really understand what you're trying to say here?
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 05:24 PM
10

Surely if something is openly promoted I wouldn't be able to deny it, yet I have not seen any evidence of that? Can you point me toward where it has been promoted? I disagree regarding if having children is a bad thing in our current situation, but that's not important. But also, if you have kids with someone because you love them etc and then they turn out to be a shit parent, I don't think that's necessarily your fault.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 04:12 PM
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Surely only if it's chosen single motherhood, as opposed to single motherhood that comes about because of 'fathers of poor quality' (as you put it). I don't see what feminism has to do with dads not sticking around/being poor quality parents?
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 03:05 PM
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I'm not going to watch the video. Please could you summarise how the government is supposedly 'replacing' the role of fathers and what is meant when you say men are being gaslit about behaviours?
/r/ExRedPill13/05/22 09:51 AM
3

Contrapoints, Shaun and H. Bomberguy have all made good content around this sort of stuff. Then branch from there.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 10:27 AM
1

Because people always think the grass is greener. But since, as you note, there is complaining on both sides, it really just seems that things wouldn't be 'better' you'd just be swapping one set of problems for another set of problems. The grass is not greener, its the same grass from a different angle.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 07:57 PM
1

Ah hello, I haven't seen you around here for a while. The grass is rarely greener.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 05:15 PM
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Being tall and being white are two things you have attributed to the reason you are a virgin. Every time you make a claim that it is because 'women want a man who...' (things you are not: shorter, not-white). You often back it up with examples from your life experience. Yet there are many people in this sub and others like it who sit and say being short and not-white are the reasons they are virgins. Because they claim that 'women want a man who...' (things they are not: tall, white.) They often…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 06:07 PM
3

Genuine questions: What do you find interesting (in general, not in people) What do you think makes another person 'funny' or 'interesting'?
/r/ExRedPill01/05/22 07:36 PM
3

It was a long time ago - I've not done GCSEs for 12 years (yikes.) I remember doing one about collecting blackberries, one of the sonnets, and we were one of the last year groups to have one that's about someone going out to stab people (we didn't study it, but it was in the book)
/r/ExRedPill26/04/22 07:20 PM
5

There is only one truly good poem (and it wasn't in the GCSE anthology, sadly): ​ The tiger He destroyed his cage yes YES The tiger is out
/r/ExRedPill26/04/22 05:12 PM
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Not that these women are my type anyway Ok, so you get that people can have types, and just because some people find something/someone attractive doesn't mean everyone does. Why do you assume that only men have types? It's ridiculous to think men aren't a monolith and women are (and vice versa). Either all men like exactly the same thing and all women like exactly the same thing, or both are equally capable of liking different things. And you already know that men are capable of liking different…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/22 04:48 PM
7

I have no idea what you're talking about or how your replies are relevant to things I've said. Are you saying you have stopped interacting with the Pills?
/r/ExRedPill25/04/22 04:41 PM
8

Did you mean to reply to me with that?
/r/ExRedPill25/04/22 04:34 PM
9

Because your post is all about the latter and nothing at all about the former.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/22 04:04 PM
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Options: - Stop interacting with an ideology that makes a person hate women/get angry when seeing or interacting with women. Continue interacting with 50% of the population. - Stop interacting with women, keep the ideology. ​ I think you quit the wrong thing there my dude.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/22 03:22 PM
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I don't think 3,900,000,00 people all have the same preference for anything, let alone romantic partners. What do you mean by 'masculine' it's a bit nebulous as a concept. I also don't know if I think the media does say yes. Not categorically with no other examples, at the very least. My husband is under 6 foot tall (I don't know how tall exactly, I know it's under 6 foot and taller than me - I'm 5'3), I think he's handsome but someone else once described him as 'looking like a school shooter' a…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 08:19 PM
3

What if you'd been raised in a community where most of the other kids liked Pokemon and Yugioh and thought they were cool? Would it be possible that, if that had happened, you would have spent more time with your peers because you'd have had more in common and gotten on and had something to hang out together and do?
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 07:19 PM
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No. Again. It's way more complex than that. You can keep repeating these points, it doesn't make them more true.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 07:04 PM
2

genetics are the sole reason why I didn't like people and enjoyed watching Pokémon and yugioh, while other local kids thought those things were dumb. No, they're not. There's no gene for liking to watch pokemon and yugioh more than wanting to socialise or vice versa. That's not a thing. That's not how genetics works. You're making an argument/building a worldview on a concept you do not understand.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:55 PM
2

Environment changes absolutely LOADS when a person is a child. Like, a fuck-ton. This is part of what I mean when I say you clearly lack the understanding of genetics and epi-genetics to be making the claims you are - environment is almost more important to children and teens than it is to adults because your environment as you develop has such a strong impact. I would hope you were not attractive to adult women as a 4 year old.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:41 PM
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That isn't a rebuttal of what I said. Also, why makes you think that the reason you were shy and nervous and wanted to be left alone whilst others were not like that is only based on genetics? And not... environment in combination with genetics? Why genetics only?
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:26 PM
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Genetics are incredibly complicated. Like, insanely, incredibly, mind-blowingly complicated. It's not a one-to-one correlation of 'my genes say X so I am X'. That's not how they work. There are things such as developmental plasticity (a way of people and animals working around things that have gone wrong with their genes or development), there's the whole field of Epigenetics (the study of how behaviours and environment can cause changes that affect the way a person's genes work), there's the on…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:21 PM
1

Alright then. You can disagree with me all you want, doesn't make you right.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:10 PM
2

There's not really any such thing as fate. Also, humans are pretty cool because in many ways we aren't limited by our biology in the same way as most other creatures. Also, you're just incorrect about things being factual and that genetics are the be all and end all.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:07 PM
2

I was directly asked if I thought that the idea that different people have different ideas about what is beautiful/attractive was nonsense. So I answered the question.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 07:34 PM
2

But I'm not claiming that it happens for everyone. That is not the point I'm making. You're getting mad at me for doing something I'm not actually doing. OP said (paraphrased): 'It is not the case that different people have different ideas about what is beautiful/attractive.' I said (paraphrased): 'I disagree, I know people I do not think are attractive who clearly interact with people who do think they're attractive.' You, seemingly, have read that as me saying something like: 'I know people I …
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 07:32 PM
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Those aren't really close analogies. In one case it's 'This thing DOES NOT EXIST' and I'm saying 'I have seen that thing, multiple times, it exists'. Your example is 'This thing happens, therefore other things don't exist' which is not logically similar. I'd say it's closer to 'No one has ever eaten ever' 'no, I have seen people eat food'. That doesn't deny the existence of anything , it just points out that the first statement is factually incorrect.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 07:19 PM
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I don't think you've been out of line. Sounds like a pretty normal build up of interaction and you probably know each other as friendly acquaintances fairly well by now? I assume you feel this way because you're worried that that's what you're doing. It's a fear thought rather than a rational one. That's fine, emotions are rarely rational. You just get to decide how you act on them - sounds like you took the step to ask her out anyway (well done!) and now you just wait to see what she says. If s…
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 05:25 PM
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I don't want random videos, I don't give them the views. Can you give a short overview of the points?
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 12:53 PM
10

I'm not sure Ukrainian Nazis are particularly pro-Zelinksy... So I feel like there's some misinformation in this. But either way, if he is dead that is very sad and not something anyone should rejoice about.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 10:52 AM
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Social skills.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 05:47 PM
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I know too many people I think are fugly who are married/in happy long term relationships with people who are clearly super into them to doubt that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have yet to hear a blackpill claim that is both unique to the blackpill mindset and not bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 03:36 PM
3

There's a really good post from r/incelexit about cold approaching. If you search there you should be able to find it, I'm on my phone rn otherwise I'd link it.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 02:25 PM
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I see no reason why a person is just incapable. It's just a skill. And lots of the time self-proclaimed incels are perfectly able of forming friendships with men. The skills are not particularly different between genders...
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 02:23 PM
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He's a blackpiller. By definition, he is full of shit.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 02:21 PM
2

I think your hair cut is fine. Both your hair and your beard just need to be neatened a bit, you look a lot like someone I know (who is married and just had his 3rd child).
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 12:34 PM
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Yes, you are wrong. Average is, by definition, what most people are. It is also the case that the majority of the population do find themselves in relationships. Therefore, being average is clearly not that much of a handicap, or indeed a handicap at all.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/22 01:52 PM
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Redpill is extreme by nature, feminism isn't.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/22 09:03 AM
2

Everyone's odds are low. I mean, look at that list, it's kind of a miracle anyone ends up in a relationship tbh but most people do despite the odds being kind of ridiculous on paper. Also: Attraction can grow over time, you don't have to be drop dead gorgeous to them immediately, they just have not not hate how you look. Most people are average looking, most people aren't going to turn their nose up at another average looking person. I say this as an average looking person who is married to anot…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 09:03 PM
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Depends on the woman. Depends on the type of nice. There is no one thing that is 'enough' that suddenly a person will be irresistible. For the most part to start a relationship there needs to be a combination of factors, some of which will rely on luck and chance. E.g. the person needs to meet basic levels of human decency (or they need to have the same understanding of what base-level niceness is), have a similar sense of humour, find they have similar interests or at least be interested in the…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 02:40 PM
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No, you could have not very much money and not be very popular. As long as you are taking care of things (e.g. not racking up debt, not creating feuds/being hard to be around/socially ok) and have interests you enjoy, that's fine. You don't have to be rich/powerful/the most popular. Just comfortable enough in your own likes and dislikes and not running yourself into the ground financially. It is definitely a 'best chance' thing. As u/ispariz points out and you acknowledge, there is no guarantee.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 07:03 PM
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This totally happened. But also, your anger is your anger, so be it. You can't control how you feel. You can control how you act based on your feelings. And you behaved poorly in a work environment. No matter how 'justified' your anger is, there are rules and you didn't stick to them. Doesn't matter that other people also did rude things, you can only control yourself and you didn't. That's your responsibility.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/22 08:21 PM
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Most men? Citation needed. Big is a relative term. By definition if most people have something, that is the average rather than 'big'. Anything apart from that is just the normal bell curve of variation. Evolution is a thoughtless process that does not always select for variations that are necessarily 'best' or even what is 'convenient'. I mean, have you ever seen a peacock? Hardly evolved for convenience. It is not the case that just because something is the product of evolution it must be the …
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 05:11 PM
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Do we all agree that larger sizes are more aesthetically pleasing and erotic? I don't know if I think that's some thing we can 'all' agree on. Genitals (penises and vulvas) aren't really aesthetically pleasing most of the time regardless of size... Most people are insecure about their bodies, it's just a fact. Chances are high that should you end up in that scenario you'll be thinking 'oh no she deserves a bigger dick' and she'll be like 'omg what if he doesn't like my boobs' etc. The point is, …
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 04:04 PM
1

Cool, good for you.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/22 06:56 PM
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Why are thing always 'repulsive'? It's such a strong, emotive, word that is almost definitely overkill to use. For some people, a prospective partner living with their parents will be a turn off. Or at the very least make dating a bit more difficult. For some people, it won't. Given that many people currently do live with their parents due to the current financial state of the world, it's unlikely to be a universal deal breaker.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/22 11:56 AM
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No feminists want men to become bad people. Some extreme ones might say that because you're a man it's inevitable that you'll be bad, but 1. they're wrong and 2. fuck them. You can be a good person who has done bad things. In fact, most people are good people who have done bad things. Gender is irrelevant here. I am a feminist. I am telling you that men can be good people (in fact, much of my feminism is based on the idea that men can and should be expected to be good people, because they're cap…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/22 08:54 PM
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I mean, it's not a real syndrome, to be clear. Some men do feel the need to jump in a defend women, often with the covert contract that the woman will 'reward' him (implied with sexual things/romantic attention). I don't think it's a think men in general do, but some men definitely have that mindset.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/22 01:03 PM
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So, for starters, that's not what the female or male gaze is. They're really quite specifically about film/art making theory about thinking about the who the 'watcher' or 'observer' of a piece of art is and catering (or not) to what the expected desires of those viewers are. It assumes a lot about the watcher/what those people want, it's much more about agency and not objectifying someone more than it's about showing what is desirable to a given gender. It's what society expects people of certai…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/22 02:36 PM
1

A friend of mine has, for the whole time I have known her, exclusively gone for older men. I'm talking 'if there's a less than 5 year gap, I'm not interested' older men. Her last relationship was when she was 27 and he was 43. I honestly have no idea why she seems to have a preference for older men. She can't really explain it but it's definitely not related to things like money (the times she has been with older men she's often been working the same job as them with similar pay, or she was trav…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/22 02:19 PM
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What are the statistic on 'apex predators' in the population? Also I think probably my response then is simply 'lower your risk factors but also at a point there's not really anything you can do'. I'm far more concerned with the threat posed by regular men than I am by the very small chance of triggering an 'apex predator'.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/22 12:15 PM
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I think there are multiple things going on here. Firstly - clothing seems to have very little to do with whether or not someone will get raped. I know you're talking about 'apex predator' things, but time and time again people talk about how they were raped whilst in their pyjamas, in modest religious dress, in sweats and a t-shirt. The majority of sexual violence takes place between people who already know each other, they're not seeing a girl in a miniskirt out and about and dragging her into …
/r/ExRedPill29/03/22 10:56 AM
1

I don't really like the term 'lover' as it is officially defined as 'a partner in a sexual or romantic relationship outside marriage'. By all means give it whatever definition you want, but don't expect the rest of the world to understand your use of it without explanation. Personally, because of the generally accepted meaning, I find it quite sleazy as a term. But to answer your questions: Does true love exist? Yes. Did it exist in the past? Yes. Is it too much to ask to be with someone who you…
/r/ExRedPill27/03/22 06:37 PM
1

Okey dokey. Just so you know, the reason you've 'never seen anything different'. Is because when people tell you something different, you decide it's probably just not true. This is major confirmation bias and proof that you're not engaging objectively with the world. I hope your therapist helps you work through it. But if/when you're here and you're claiming that you've never seen or heard any evidence that your beliefs are wrong, I will be here to remind you that I have given you that and you'…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 04:40 PM
1

You're the one who said my counter examples to your claims about 'women's nature' didn't count because we live in different places. You're the one who started with this claim, not me. You tell me why you decided to suggest that I would be different to someone born near you (a point which you now seem to disagree with despite the fact you made it). The key things is, I am example of how your ideas are wrong. So are many of my friends. You said these didn't count because I live somewhere different…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 04:31 PM
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You literally told me that the reason why my experiences didn't convince you is because I live somewhere else. If that's not why my experiences as a woman and the lives of my friends didn't convince you, maybe you need to consider that this isn't something where 'evidence' will convince you because it's not a fully rational position. It's one that also comes from worries and insecurities that you then find evidence to support, not the other way around. Also, I am evidence against your view on ho…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 04:06 PM
1

So the fact that myself and my friends aren't like this is proof against that. Either It's specific to your location (in which case your rebuttal that I'm in a different place so our experiences are different makes sense). OR Women are like this everywhere (in which case my point about my life and my friends disproves your claim about women). It cannot be both. So which is it? Are women like this everywhere based on your interactions with people in a specific place, or is it much more localised …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 03:48 PM
1

But your claim was 'all women'. So you don't mean that? You mean 'the women in my very specific location all seem to have similar tastes'. Do you understand how these are very different statements. And that going around claiming what 'all women' are like when actually you know full well you don't mean all women, makes you more likely to 1. make and believe claims about women that are false and 2. make you sound silly as you make broad and unrealistic claims about women that you, yourself, seemin…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 02:50 PM
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Well, I am a woman you are encountering and my husband is not a masculine douchebag by basically any measure, despises tattoos, and is not black. Of my closest friends: One seems to have a strong preference for Hispanic men (she is white), she's also 6 foot and has only ever dated men shorter than her. One is in a relationship with a white man who also does not have tattoos, although he is a bit of a lad. But she's ex-army so they're kind of both quite jock-y. One dated for three years when she …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 02:19 PM
1

I mean, I am a woman, I am friends with many women. Our tastes are all very different. I don't think any particular subreddit is proof of anything. They're self-selecting and specific. (I'd also query the thought process that says Jason Mamoa and Martin Freeman 'look the same') I could probably find loads of subreddits that show that men are only into skinny blondes or something. Women are just people, like men are. They have varied interests, values, and preferences.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 01:48 PM
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Women aren't attracted to a template. Keep working on your therapy, give yourself more time, and I find as a general rule it makes life much more pleasant (but still safe) to as far as possible assume good intentions. If you go out expecting the world to be full of assholes and mean people, you're going to be more likely to notice them. If you go out assuming that most people are like you - lost, confused, feel at least a bit shit about themselves - you'll often notice that people really aren't …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 12:55 PM
2

You did not answer any of my questions nor really engage with the points I was making.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 12:45 PM
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I'm sure there are women who aren't attracted to 'confidence'. Especially, as you rightly point out, it's such a nebulous concept that no one can really define. I am a woman and I am attracted to my partners intelligence, wit, kindness, raw videogaming talent (this is sort of a joke, sort of not), and I find his hair and eyes and face and body attractive (although it wasn't what drew me in initially). He's not unconfident - he knows he's intelligent etc. but he's also not devoid of insecurities …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 10:28 AM
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Are you being fully honest with your therapist about your beliefs? Are you doing any and all 'homework' or practice suggested by your therapist, if they give you any? A month isn't actually that long in therapy standpoints. You are wrong. Your logical leaps are ridiculous and you seem to have relatively poor critical thinking skills if you believe these ideas are definitely correct. If you're truly sure of your ideas, try to unlearn them - if you go through the whole unlearning process and they'…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 09:08 AM
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Sounds like he would benefit from therapy rather than an audience of fanboys.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/22 01:35 PM
6

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. You had 95% of the pie, now you're getting less of it and feel like it's all going to be taken even though you probably still have about 80% of the pie. What you're seeing is the shift from everything being about people like you. And, as we teach young children, it's important to understand that not everything is about you and that the world is wide enough for you to have enough and for people different from you to have enough.…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 11:41 AM
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I think it's a consequence of dating someone who sounds insecure / not committed / has an unhealthy attachment style. And who is immature and a bit too into Instagram.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/22 04:05 PM
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Generally, they aren't superficial and transactional. So... that's why people get into them. Usually healthy relationships look like people supporting and caring for each other (emotionally and sometimes physically). And just wanting the best for the other person and if not actively helping them reach their goals then being enthusiastic and interested in their life.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/22 08:09 AM
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No, not really. Firstly, some men are shit. But that in no way means all men are. Same as with women. Hone your ability to ask meaningful questions to get to know someone to try and avoid getting close with people who hold ideas you fundamentally disagree with to the point that it's a deal breaker. Secondly, know your deal breakers and be, if not directly upfront - that can be a bit odd and intense, then at least clear with yourself about them and what that means. Perfect guy except the fact he …
/r/ExRedPill14/03/22 11:54 PM
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When my husband and I met and started dating (and for the first 3-4 years together): He was a virgin, I was not. I was earning and he was unemployed (after we graduated) I was studying for a post-grad, he was not. I was (and still am) an extrovert with a wide social circle, he was (and still is) an introvert with a small circle of close friends most of whom are online friends he has never met in person and some of whom are mutual friends not ones he knew before knowing me. Neither of us to to th…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/22 10:20 PM
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Ok, then my opinion is 'Hm, nah'. I don't thing women are any more or less 'bitchy' than they ever have been - there are some who are really mean and some who aren't and anyone saying that this is a 'new' phenomenon probably doesn't know very much history and/or believes in this magical 'before' time when everything was perfect (spoiler, this is an idea mostly pushed by nostalgic media and was almost definitely never a widespread thing).
/r/ExRedPill12/03/22 07:38 PM
1

Has it started? Most of the replies seem to be people - myself included - having never heard the phrase before or knowing what it means. Where are you seeing it used and what are the people talking about?
/r/ExRedPill12/03/22 07:31 PM
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And where are the men in the US in this? No one is saying there aren't women who reinforce this shitty practice. We're just pointing out that you're really angry with all women for it (you have no evidence all women have this preference) and you aren't angry with men even though they also reinforce the practice. So, Why ALL women? You hating women as a group for something not all of them do is irrational. Why not also men? Some of them do it to. You can hate people who are pro-circumcision all y…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 08:55 AM
2

Most people get sad when the person they they like doesn't show affection to them. If you don't show affection what's the point.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/22 02:49 PM
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Ok, but to be clear you believe this. That does not mean anyone else, including thousands upon thousands of women, believe this. If you just google interracial marriage: "The study also observed a clear gender divide in racial preference with regards to marriage: Women of all the races which were studied revealed a strong preference for men of their own race for marriage, with the caveat that East Asian women only discriminated against Black and Hispanic men, and not against White men." Studies …
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 01:49 PM
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That implies that this preference is social not biological. Which, to an extent is true - interracial marriage in the US has only been legal since like, the mid-60s. Unless your claim is that all white women would prefer to marry black men and absolutely would have if it hadn't been for it being illegal. Which is... a take. To be clear, an absolutely ridiculous take.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 01:41 PM
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But... I'm pretty sure statistically there are fewer interracial couples/marriages than there are same-race couples. So if white women like black men more... surely we'd be able to see that reflected in dating and marriage habits. Your belief is irrational.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 09:31 AM
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Your surroundings are clearly limited so that you you'll never see all 3.9 billion, but the chances are there are at least, what 5000 women where you live. You think all 5000 women all like exactly the same things. Imagine if someone said 'no women like the flavour of broccoli'. Like, clearly, that's nonsense right. People like different flavours of things, and even if you've never personally seen a woman eat broccoli it's still pretty ridiculous to make a claim that says that no women do. That'…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/22 07:22 PM
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Yes, your therapist is right that there are many women who like feminine looking men. There are roughly 3,904,727,342 women in the world. That's just way, way, way too many for you to say 'no women like x' - because, that's 3.9 billion people, chances are very high that at least some do in fact like x. I think your therapist is right about red cars though, because you'll say 'I only see this' but what you really mean is 'I only notice this' and that's quite different. There are probably loads of…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/22 06:43 PM
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Which is amusing, given that cats are generally more associated with women. I think it might be because you're looking at the messaging and what people say women are attracted to... rather than going out (in whichever ways you like best) and actually meeting women. Speaking as a woman who is married to a guy who is very confident in himself and his convictions, thoughts, values etc but also really very much an introvert who takes a long time to warm up to people. Women are just as varied as men …
/r/ExRedPill05/03/22 04:04 PM
1

She was abusive. That's not your fault and you didn't do or not do anything to make it happen. It sounds like the redpill has made lots of things worse for you and that the people in your life whose opinions you care about say it's fake. That's pretty clear evidence that it is fake.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/22 11:27 AM
3

Definitely over thinking. Clearly she just rolled with it. I'd just send a heart back in a response to hers, then carry on the rest of the conversation.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/22 01:41 PM
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I feel like people assume a match is an 'option' when that isn't necessarily the case. Additionally, I've never used dating apps but three of my closest female friends have and their experiences have been so different from each other. Only one got loads of matches, and of those about 80% were gross or creepy. And not like 'oh they just said hi' (which is annoying but not offensive). Another friend has had 6 matches, she's spoken to all of them, they all seem fine but eventually either she has gh…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/22 09:21 AM
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I think you overestimate how many options the average woman has. Yeah, probably not the healthiest coping mechanism. If it fully becomes an addiction, then you should probably seek professional help.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/22 10:45 PM
1

Contrary to what most of these RP spaces seem to suggest. Life continues much the same even when people pass the age of 30. Like, most people in their early 30s really aren't doing much different from when they were in their late 20s. People still date, there are still options. It may be that some people have more history because they've just lived longer, but that's by no means necessarily a negative.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/22 07:38 PM
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There is no tangible answer. The thing you seek does not exist. I'm not reprimanding you, I'm just being straightforward. Are you in any form of therapy?
/r/ExRedPill27/02/22 10:25 PM
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when I date guys, I'm seen as gross or an unholy abomination. You should probably seek some professional help for that feeling. It's an extreme reaction and is untrue. In a post reply to someone else you say that all you want is 'an answer' and that's probably why you're struggling to understand all the different advice. Because you're still looking for one, set answer. Do X, get Y. That's not how dating works. There are lots of reasons why you might get more interest from gay men than from wome…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/22 10:00 PM
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Yeah nah. It's really not that blissful. He's just a regular person and she's just a regular person. They probably do, say and deal with most, if not all, of the same shit regular people do.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 09:45 AM
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Explain to me what you think? Because you've not said anything in the OP and it's quite hard to explain why someone is wrong if they don't even say what they're talking about to start with.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/22 07:01 PM
12

The concept is kind of ridiculous. That is my thought on it.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 11:04 PM
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I mean, my partner has absolutely as much say in if this relationship lasts as I do. I think your idea that there's this power imbalance regarding how long to love or stay with someone is faulty - both partners have the ability to end the relationship and both people in a relationship have to put the effort in whilst hoping the other person continues to want to do the same. I think you're underplaying your own agency within a relationship. Like, obviously, if the other person doesn't want someth…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 08:42 PM
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Well, for starters I've been with my partner for almost 10 years and we're not bored of each other yet :P And I wouldn't say either of us are objectively the most attractive or interesting people out there, we just clicked together and made that commitment. And that's how most relationships I've seen have played out. There's still drama, obviously, but not so much that I think it's worth drawing conclusions about 'dating these days' or patterns in relationships. My life experience is just so dif…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 08:15 PM
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I appreciate your honesty. I also think you're wrong. I think it's quite easy to find examples of people who have made long term monogamous relationships work even in the newer age of OLD. I think your feelings of being 'not good enough' are a shame - I'm sure you are more than good enough. It's just that at the end of the day a lot of dating comes down to luck and circumstance.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 08:02 PM
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What do you mean by: Because honestly, healthy monogamous relationships just seems impossible for someone like me. What does 'someone like [you]' mean? What about you means 'normal relationships' won't work out?
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 07:46 PM
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So, she's introduced people in the past and they've not lasted - I wonder why if things are going well she might be more hesitant to repeat behaviours that didn't work out in past relationships? It is a big leap to assume she only wants me for s*x, but dont you see how the presented evidence could lead to that conclusion? To be completely honest, no, not massively? It could lead to that, but it's a stretch. It sounds way more likely that she's just taking things more slowly this time round.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 01:13 PM
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7 months is really not that long to introduce someone to a child. Maybe introducing you to her friends, but even then it really depends on how each person progresses, you're mismatched a little here. That's not her 'using you' it's just that the two of you have different expectations about timelines. Like, it can just be that she's inclined to take things a lot slower than you, it doesn't have to be some deep plot to use you for sex and nothing else. That's kind of a big leap to assume about som…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/22 12:49 PM
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Mostly a firm belief in the fact that exposure to a group that you dislike or misunderstand is more likely to make you empathise with them than stay separate.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 08:15 PM
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The fact men primarily work those jobs and are more disagreeable is a part of the patriarchal variable though? Like, they're both related to how men and women are socialised and what they're 'allowed' to do (even if there aren't legal barriers anymore, there are certainly social ones).
/r/ExRedPill16/02/22 11:42 PM
1

I definitely used to know the reasoning, but I can't remember it right now.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/22 09:52 AM
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I don't know his views on MGTW, so giving a summary of that would help start the conversation. That being said, there is a no Jordan Peterson rule here.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/22 08:59 AM
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That is a fruitless aim. You need to accept that this is nuanced and variable. There is not, and will never be, a quantitative and clear cut answer for whether a whole group of people like or don't like something as nebulous as romance. You mentioned in another comment that the results are qualitative and give unreliable data based on lots of factors around those interviewed. And, yes, exactly, that's how humans are. You will not find the objective answer you are looking for because it does not …
/r/ExRedPill12/02/22 07:06 PM
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pleasure, but not just the physical kind that can be achieved by yourself. connection with a partner for some people, reproduction I don't think this question is as puzzling as you think it is. Sex is a fun activity people do together because it feels good, add into that having sex with someone whose company you really enjoy and you want to feel connected to, and there's the reason. I think some of the general misunderstanding comes from people insisting that all they need/want is sex when they'…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/22 10:05 AM
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The red pill - a community full of grifters praying on men with low self esteem failing so that they keep coming back for more advice - says one thing. Actual research - a community that can have bias but which is generally respected as having at least some scientific method and standards - says another. I am confused by your confusion.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/22 09:56 AM
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That's a lot of words you put into my mouth there.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 05:08 PM
2

Definitely them being worthless and horrible. The history of men (and women) doing terrible things in the name of getting relationships far pre-dates the red pill.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 05:03 PM
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Therapy. I'm serious. Lots of work in lots of typed of therapy is understanding and deconstructing anxieties and insecurity and breaking toxic habits or reactions. If you are able, go to therapy.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 12:25 AM
3

How do you think anyone ends up with step-children?
/r/ExRedPill05/02/22 11:48 AM
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I mean, I'd probably end the relationship and/or make my boundaries around what he's saying very clear.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/22 06:06 PM
1

Firstly, I think it's a leap to decide each individual woman must think the guy is 'meh' looking. Like, you're putting a lot of thoughts into this hypothetical woman's head. For all we know she's matched with him because she, personally, thinks he's very attractive, even if that's not what the statistics say most women think. Maybe she doesn't think she's out of his league? Like you assume this woman thinks she's super hot and he's meh, when perhaps she thinks she's also meh? But like, I don't k…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 08:38 AM
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I know several women who - at least at some point whilst I knew them or are currently - single. They're... single people? Idk what to tell you, they're no more or less of a mess than plenty of people I know who are in relationships. (In fact, some of them are decidedly much less of a mess than some of the ones in questionable relationships). (Female in relation to humans should be used as an adjective, not a noun).
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 11:06 PM
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So, there is absolutely a thing (sometimes called 'pretty privilege') that makes people who have classically 'good looking' features have better interactions - people are nicer to them, they are more likely to get promotions etc. This is not a good thing. This is also something that's actually fairly widely acknowledged, so if anyone reading this is going 'so RP is right?!!?' then.. yeah, in the same way that a person gets an answer right when they copy the answers off someone else whose already…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 09:36 PM
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Missing from this is the actual meat of study analysis that found that women were more likely to message men they deemed 'less' attractive. Whereas men found more women attractive but were most likely to only message those they deemed 'most' attractive. So women (in this particular study) weren't necessarily like 'wow, he's hot' but would message anyway whereas men (in this particular study) seemed to be like 'yeah she's hot but I'm only going to message the ones I think are super hot'. Either w…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/22 10:39 PM
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Yes. Those women who feel sexual attraction to men... Feel sexual attraction to men. I'm not sure why this is a question.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/22 05:41 PM
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The ones saying that feminism is an 'instant turn off for women' are incorrect. Firstly, it really depends on the person how much you can talk about things like feminism on a date etc. It's definitely not an instant turn off for literally all women. Secondly, men can be feminists and still masculine, those aren't opposites. Thirdly, it's probably a good thing to view other people as at least deserving of the same rights as you regardless of their gender. Even if it was a turn off (which again, i…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 08:38 PM
0

Because they are wrong.
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 08:26 PM
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Nothing in the definition of toxic masculinity says 'other people of other genders can't also be toxic'. It happens quite often here that people complain about things men are 'expected' to do that they struggle with - why do they have to approach, why must they avoid being vulnerable etc etc. and the answer to that is 'toxic masculinity': cultural pressure on men to behave themselves in a certain way, particularly around manliness, so domination, aggression, and homophobia without any acknowledg…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 08:25 PM
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I generally see a pattern of people making statements that aren't at all 'true' and getting downvoted. Or sometimes they come in making statements about how they're sure they'll get downvoted or banned and it's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy because it's an annoying thing to do. I also see plenty of people question women here or point out something wrong in a woman's behaviour. Perhaps we are reading the same things but interpreting them differently.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 05:53 PM
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I'm here because I think having a woman's actual perspective can be useful for men who are trying to think critically about red pill ideas. I don't 'gain' anything beyond having conversations with people who I think need to feel they're being listened to, even if I don't agree with them. Listening and discussing is better than ignoring or shouting down. You've replied to others all about how women here are 'lying' which is oddly hostile. Myself and I think many of the others here have been quite…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 05:42 PM
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I specifically did not specify which gender was being stereotyped. I think lots of places - TRP included - also stereotype men in unhelpful and unhealthy ways. It's difficult to make claims about one group without having to at the very least imply things about another.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/22 12:36 PM
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Showing frustration that the world is harsher and much less fair than we're led to believe growing up is completely fine. People do it regularly. Doing it in a way that badly stereotypes 50% of the population and which, as shown here multiple times, can lead to thoughts and behaviours that cause material harm to people's lives and relationships. Maybe it's completely fine to point out that some people need a healthier way of expressing that frustration.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/22 08:38 PM
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So, as far as I can tell (and I am not super well informed, so other people's answers may be more specific): Spinning plates: The 'plates' do not necessarily know about one another The 'spinner' may imply or even say that are interested in monogamy but then not commit, to keep the 'plate' spinning. The chances are that the 'plates' do not have other options. Lots of language seems to be about 'command' and 'control' of (usually) a woman's 'want and need' for attention, the spinner feeds into it …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/22 03:20 PM
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Why does it have to be MGTOW or Manosphere? Historically both of these are spaces that are likely to hold resentment towards women. You're better off just looking for direct self-improvement spaces that don't tie themselves to a specifically gendered ideology. If you would like it to be a space that is predominantly 'for' men then I'd recommend r/bropill or r/MensLib
/r/ExRedPill09/01/22 05:15 PM
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Then it'll also have to be part of the solution.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/22 08:41 PM
8

Well... You start by forming friendships. You don't just jump from nothing to a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/22 08:26 PM
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No, it can't. And thank fuck for that.
/r/ExRedPill07/01/22 02:46 PM
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Yeah, this seems like quite a lot of BS really. Sorry.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/22 10:46 PM
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Most women? Probably not. It's hard to be that universal. In the media there are traits seen in hollywood actors which would make people go 'oh, he's hot' but that's rarely a trait that would lead to actual results - especially if you're looking to be seen and appreciated as a person (being physically admired and seen as a person are not the same thing). The basis is usually finding people who like the same things you do, vibe with your sense of humour, share your goals and values. Building on t…
/r/ExRedPill05/01/22 10:02 PM
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Well luckily feelings aren't always representative of facts.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/22 09:15 PM
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'Women' don't want one set thing for you to achieve. There is no point you can reach where suddenly all women like you because you made it and got the One Thing women like. Women are just people. Just like men. Their interests, wants, desires, values etc are all different, some might overlap with yours and some might not. Find the people (men and women) with overlap for you, they're the people you want to befriend and have in your social circle for meeting potential romantic connections.
/r/ExRedPill04/01/22 09:51 PM
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My redpill side has come back and can you blame me. I believe this woman was not a virgin, was already fucking some 6’3 chad and used me for validation and entertainment while her Chad was busy entertaining Becky and leaving this girl on read. She went on a date for the free meal and validation but she always preferred chad over me. That's such an illogical leap and a strange thing to believe. You liked her, she didn't like you as much. That happens and there's nothing you could change that woul…
/r/ExRedPill04/01/22 03:24 PM
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It's ok to still be emotionally attached to her, but try not to let that attachment guide your choices - it seems like you and her have a fundamental disconnect regarding what you want out of a relationship. I think probably trying to move on and away from her is a good move. No matter how much she likes your insta-posts or seems to miss you when she supposedly never misses anyone, if she doesn't want to commit then she's not the girl for you.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 04:19 PM
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Also, there actually have been long conversations within feminist/women's healthcare rights spaces about the lack of research on the (so far seemingly temporary) impact this vaccine seems to have on the menstrual cycle. The original tweet (from 'Traditional Canadian Girl' with no citations) is also scaremongering - "forcing early menopause" and "post menopausal women bleeding again" very much isn't what the conversations I've been part of are saying. The vaccine seemingly disrupts the menstrual …
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 04:12 PM
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I don't really understand what's confusing you? There was a girl you liked who wasn't willing to commit to something exclusive. You wanted exclusivity, so you ended interactions with her due to that disconnect of wants/goals. A little while later she gets back in touch because she probably misses you a little, but she still isn't willing to commit to exclusivity so nothing has really changed. This is not a particularly strange run of events, which bit is causing you confusion?
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 04:07 PM
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I think she probably hit you up because she remembers having a good time with you and wanted to hit you up. But that doesn't mean she wants you exclusively from now on. It's less 'the other dude isn't around' and more 'sometimes you miss something you had that was nice even if you don't always want it/only want it for a short amount of time'. It's more a 'shitty human thing' than a woman thing. I think you're over thinking it but also trying to make it make sense in the RP world and seeing that …
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 03:55 PM
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This all sounds very messy, I think I'd just block her if I were you. I don't think she's purposefully and maliciously trying to use you nor do I think she's 100% interested in you and only you. Some social environments lead to that sort of behaviour (I'd also be weirded out by a friend calling me to ask me to get them alcohol? that's really weird in my social circles but might not be in others). I think, based on what it sounds like you're looking for in a partner you're better off not attempti…
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 03:44 PM
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So, to clarify, you took the pretty neutral idea that "you look younger than your age" and you took it to mean "Everyone sees me as an ugly prepubescent boy looking dude who will never look like a man". That is a huge leap.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/22 02:14 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 08:54 PM
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It's not 'over' for him. There's very little you can tell about a person from one picture. Although I note the HP t-shirt and would definitely at least enjoy chatting about that with him if the scenario arose.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 08:26 PM
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I'm really not sure I'm that familiar with the phrase 'dick is abundant and low value'. But I'm not sure I really think it's that true - there are plenty of people who will send dick pics and those are not ideal. But I think the actual ease/abundance for most people to have even casual sex is often fairly overblown. The conversation is always about how women are somehow drowning in dick/have a whole 'buffet' in front of them and it's like... not really true for most people. For the most part tho…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 01:57 PM
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'Associated with' =/= 'caused by' All these have done so far is show correlation, I am yet to be convinced on the 'causation' aspect. I also really don't care and am slightly concerned by the amount you seem to.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 07:08 PM
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Lifetime partners is not the same as pre-marital. Additionally, there's this assumption about cheating and having had multiple sexual partners... It's entirely possible for someone to have had multiple partners and not cheated once. Additionally I'm aware that the Heritage Foundation studies do not count any subsequent marriages after a divorce, so if some people got married for 6 months at the age of 21, both had an affair, and then both went on to divorce and remarry to leave happy monogamous …
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 11:43 PM
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I have friends with home I do not have to be happy all the time. They do not have to be happy with me all the time. I sent them a voice note yesterday in which I cried and they have sent ones in the past when they've been upset/angry. It's really not that shocking or rare.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 06:08 PM
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Your point is factually incorrect though. Because many people have friends with whom they do not have to happy all the time.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 06:03 PM
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It's not something you 'try' and fail at and then stop. You have to keep trying. OK? What does it matter if they were long term school friends if you always put on an act for them?
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 04:58 PM
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If you make friends with people where you're not faking it from the start they're more likely to stick around. Also, again, deal with your mental illness.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 04:54 PM
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You don't know that. Although you probably should look into if you have a mental illness that could do with management.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 04:46 PM
1

Well 1. You're wrong, friendship is fantastic and 2. Most of the time, friendships are what facilitate meeting people for potential relationships. If you don't want to invest in friendships with people - regardless of gender - then fine. But you don't get to complain about not having a relationship or claim how 'correct' the pills are when you're actively not doing the thing that most people can agree is one of the fundamental steps to not being lonely.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 03:20 PM
1

I haven't made any friends since then. Actively haven't bothered though. You haven't actively bothered to try and make friends. Yet you insist you're incapable of it. How do you know?
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 03:07 PM
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'I am incapable of doing this' 'That seems unlikely, how have you tried doing it?' 'I have not tried doing it.' ​ My dude.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 02:53 PM
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Is that how you made friends with the men you know? Walked up to strangers and talked to them? Because that is an unorthodox method, I'll give you that. There is no reason you should be able to get on with men and not women unless you are treating them differently somehow or reading more into the interactions than you do with men for some reason.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 02:15 PM
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So you can form platonic bonds with people, it's just that for most of your life those people have been men. Good news, women are also people, so you're most likely perfectly capable of forming friendships with women.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 02:04 PM
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This is unlikely to be the case inherently, you may have other factors - most likely unaddressed mental health issues - which make it more difficult currently for you to form bonds and connections. But once treated it's likely you would be able to make and maintain at least some connections, platonic or romantic.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 01:58 PM
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I mean, it's a good idea to find things in life alongside bonds and connections. It's also worth looking into and strengthening bonds and connections that are platonic rather than romantic - humans are a social species. But given that 'giving up' on having a social life at all seems to just make people more miserable, that's not what I'd called 'dealing effectively with the situation' so much as 'making the situation worse'.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 01:40 PM
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What 'copes' does the blackpill offer someone who believes themselves to be all the things you listed about yourself? Other than saying 'yes' - which isn't a 'cope'. Coping is when someone 'deals effectively with a situation'. Doesn't sound like you (or any of these pill ideologies) deal with the situation at all, let alone effectively.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/21 03:38 PM
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Yeah it's a myth. At least, it's a myth that All women want that. Clearly there are some here who do like some of those traits - although not to assholeish extremes. And there are other women, even just in this comment section who don't want that. You're right that it's more complex and varied than that. For your last point, I think you're assuming pick up artists have more sex than they do, and then following from that it is the case that most pick up artists use manipulation tactics and aren't…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 08:45 AM
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Realistically, your issues are likely not any more insurmountable than anyone else's. So take advice from people who've felt similar and moved forwards, look for groups which offer support whilst you try solutions, and probably seek some sort of progressional help.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 02:47 PM
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Why? What makes you a special case compared to all the other people who have felt and will ever feel the same?
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 02:17 PM
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Again, in the nicest way possible, it probably is available to you. You aren't a special case.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 02:13 PM
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Some people find it comforting to know that they aren't the only people who feel the way they do. Additionally, the fact lots of people feel or have felt that way suggests that 1. There are ways to manage these feelings and 2. That you're not a uniquely doomed person, you're actually quite normal and there are likely steps you can take to improve things. All potentially quite helpful stuff.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 02:10 PM
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You are presumably physically alone and feel very alone. But the fact is that lots of people have felt and will feel how you feel. It is the case that you are not alone in that regard.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 10:22 AM
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In the nicest way possible - your flaws are not necessarily any better or worse than anyone else's and lots of other people end up in relationships. You are not alone in this or a doomed special case. It's a combination of making sure you meet people/do manage to form some close friendships and a whole lot of luck.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 07:46 PM
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They probably do exist, but it's never easy to find someone who you can work on that partnership with.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 07:19 PM
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Eh, depends on the person. Arrogance shows itself in different ways. But to echo what a lot of other people have told you: You don't always know for sure why you, or anyone else, was rejected. All these 'stories' might not be outright lies, but they are only from one side of the story and seem to be making assumptions about things they don't necessarily know the answers to.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 03:19 PM
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I mean, the way you're describing this makes you sound like an absolute knob, so that probably also isn't helping your chances. I don't think tolerating irrational behaviour or wildly logical inconsistency is necessarily something you need to do 'as a man' but I do wonder what exactly comes under that banner for you and also if you think you're consistently good and being entirely logical and not swayed by emotion, bias or fallacious thinking from time to time.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/21 07:22 PM
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Plenty of people haven't said that. Other people have said 'well I'm attracted to all sorts of fictional men' and 'the bad boys you're talking about aren't like the ones I'm interested in, so how does that work?'. Also, I also listed the 'none' bad boys I like. Why is it that you don't care about my attraction and fantasies about non-bad boys? Could it perhaps be... confirmation bias? I get it, you're insecure. We can tell. But you're letting that insecurity guide what you're seeing as 'objectiv…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 05:59 PM
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'All these women'... you've cited 3. As it means even women who would date me are still going to be bored. No, it doesn't. ​ You *keep* making the leap between 'some women, sometimes' and 'all women, all the time'. Stop.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 05:55 PM
1

Wanting to create that contrast is also weird.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 09:00 PM
1

That's mind-reading. Different women act differently - some people just like to chat online! They might also want to meet in person, that doesn't mean they don't also want to talk online. Also, no, she's not 'for sure' having sex with someone else. Your ideas are not at all logical or grounded.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:56 PM
1

You can't know, but no, it's really not widespread - at least not widespread enough that it's 'common' across women, to text during sex. That's weird.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:53 PM
1

Anyone who texts during sex is a bit of a weirdo.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:51 PM
1

Some people - not this person, again, she sounds very strange and a full bullet dodge - but some people just like talking to people before they meet up/in general. They just like making connections and talking. It's really not necessarily a play, they might just like getting to know you and want to do that. Even if this particular woman was a weirdo.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:50 PM
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I guess, but she sounds like a bit of weirdo tbh. Like, that's a really, really weird behaviour and definitely more to do with her than the medium of discussing via text itself. It's not like most people who are texting are doing it during sex.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:46 PM
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I mean, there are loads of reason why a person might not want to meet another person irl for specific things. Like, if I couldn't meet up with someone for over a week I would want to keep talking to them before that point. Also, it's much more effort (and often money) to meet someone irl and if you can work out that you're incompatible before then it saves you both time.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:45 PM
1

Again, people can play you at really any point. Sure, there are things that might be more difficult if you're not in person, but there are things that are more possible in person. This time, the fact you got played had nothing to do with the fact you were texting.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:41 PM
1

Spending time with her would have been all you wanted even if she was secretly laughing at you the whole time and pulled the rug out at the end?
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:36 PM
2

This seems like an issue with the person rather than the method of talking. You think she wouldn't have been like this if you'd only met her in person??
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:28 PM
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Short answer: Yes, it's absolutely fine to split the costs/not want to pay for the other person. Slightly longer answer: Yes, My husband and I have only ever split the costs/paid for ourselves on dates (even when we very first got together). It's just about finding a person with similar expectations/setting the expectations well (I can't say without seeing, but perhaps how you asked had an effect). More complex answer: I don't think it's necessarily on the person who suggests the date to be the …
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 08:16 PM
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It's really easy to know! They won't be - because 'alpha widows' don't exist. I think she'll probably get over you, mate.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 09:23 PM
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There are absolutely ways to fight back against a lot of the unfair things in life. And they are things that don't involve becoming a manipulative asshole / materially harming yourself and the relationships in your life. Some things can't be changed, in many ways life is just in inherently unfair. But there are things that can be changed, if not for us then laying the groundwork for the society that comes after us. It's just that TRP ain't it. (Many options ain't it, it depends which things you …
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 03:25 PM
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See my other comment about how what RP would say not being the only explanation nor one that we should really be using in this space.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/21 03:23 PM
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Yeah, it does take a lot of patience and I think it would be difficult to date her. The same with this girl, I haven't given advice either way to the OP. I was just calling out your suggestion that she's definitely sleeping around/seeing other guys. It's a very RP leap in judgement and as this is exredpill I felt like I should challenge this very RP idea. Clearly a person can be flakey/be not a good person to date without assuming they're going to cheat/secretly sleeping with other people.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/21 03:22 PM
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Eh, I have a friend - known her since she was 18 - who has quite sever depression and would fairly regularly miss planned things with us because she was asleep. Really didn't matter what time of day, she'd miss loads of things between about 3pm and 11pm because she'd nap and then just sleep for ages. And I know she wasn't seeing guys in that time because for at least some of it I was sharing a house with her - she was very definitely just... Asleep. So like, it's still rude and flakey, but let's…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/21 02:59 PM
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I don't think you need to be angry with yourself for giving her time. How old are you? I think I'd probably still be annoyed if someone flaked on plans with me because they fell asleep - I'd probably forgive but be more cautious about making plans. But it's really up to you if you think you can forgive it and want to keep talking to her.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/21 11:49 AM
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Personally I'd want to know why she didn't show. But it would have to be quite sever circumstances for her not to have messaged you at all in that time, so I don't think your anger is necessarily unreasonable. Blocking her was probably a bit excessive, but we do silly things when we're angry.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/21 11:32 AM
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You are literally speaking to women here who are telling you what they like and how that's NOT bad boys. We are here. Now. Telling you.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 11:35 PM
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What are these men 'alpha bad boys'? Having muscles and tattoos doesn't necessarily make someone a 'bad boy' (again, I've asked multiple times, what exactly you mean by that phrase). These men have a lot of muscles that some women apparently find super hot (I don't really, muscles aren't really my thing, and again different women like different things) but also... Jason Mamoa is by all accounts a really nice dude. I don't know enough about the other celebs or the random guy in the library but li…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 11:33 PM
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'I have three women's opinion so I know how all women act' is just... it's nonsense. How do you not see how much that's nonsense? You have women here disagreeing, so... turns out women are all different and some might want an alpha-male type (whatever you perceive that to be) and some might not.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 11:27 PM
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Talk to a mental health professional and be open and honest with them. Maybe they can't help, but also maybe they can and there's only one way to find out. Not believing things can help or will get better is literally a symptom.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 11:16 PM
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As a woman, I'd say 85% of the dating advice I've ever seen has been geared at women. So, I think it's probably more about where you're looking than about there not being that advice.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 09:47 PM
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I mean, you should stop doing that to yourself, for a start. Romance book covers don't even always reflect what happens in them! But also: Romance books: - Well Met (hello, Simon Graham, my nerdy and quite shy English teacher) - The Virtuous Scoundrel (it's just, it's a lot of sexy times but the main male character who is a 'player' is actually a virgin and it's hot) - Don't You Forget About Me (second chance romance, not really very much smut but high on the sexual tension) - Beach Read, Unhone…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 12:32 PM
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Opinion pieces by two women are not the same as evidence of how all women are or feel. Even in the bit you quoted it's 'may' - so not all women are going to be put off by that. Some might be, sure, but not all of them and probably not even most of them. No, I'm not telling you that's the best you can hope for. I am actively telling you that you can hope for way more than that and you're the one who keeps bringing the doomer/catastrophising back in. Because, I cannot emphasis this enough not all …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 12:26 PM
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My dude, I read romance and erotica and I am a woman. I can promise you that not all of it includes aggressive alpha male bad boys. So... 80% of British women don't own a copy. That's quite a few more women who don't own it than do. Not to mention owning a copy doesn't mean they particularly like it. There are plenty of women out there who do not like fifty shades, seriously, loads. You're acting like all women love it and find it hot when that's just not true.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 11:58 AM
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You really need to let go of Fifty Shades, man. It's not the signifier of women's sexual interest you interpret it as.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 06:25 PM
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This is the confirmation bias in process. I made it clear that these characters (and the personality aspect that I really like) is that they are 'super in love softies'. We all grow up in the same cultural soup, and that soup has taught a lot of women that a damaged guy who is loving to you is romantic, it's not - many women do grow out of viewing this as romantic - this doesn't mean they just pick the more stable alternative who they want less. It means what they want changes. Additionally, fan…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 06:19 PM
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Speaking as someone who is married to the person she started dating when we were both 19 and he was (still is) a shy, mild-mannered, and generally overly considerate human, it's all still a myth. Even the people saying 'they only like bad boys when they're young' isn't really being fully truthful - some women don't ever like bad boys! Or, and here's another wild idea to throw into the mix, because it's really not clear cut - any given woman (because, it will vary from individual to individual) c…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 03:20 PM
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I've seen so many occasions when girls would literally betray their friendships for one another just to get with a certain hot guy. I have literally never seen this happen. How many times, exactly? And in what context? Also you say you've seen occasions when they would do you mean when they have or when they've stated 'oh yeah I'd totally abandon you for this guy' or what? It's just an oddly specific thing to have seen happen 'so many' times. Even if you genuinely have seen it multiple times, as…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/21 11:27 AM
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Based on the extracts of this study, sounds like men stop making as much of an effort to be romantic once they are married, reducing the amount of romantic connection and closeness the wife receives. So... this study actually (sort of*) proves what people on this sub say right. If you'd read and understood the study, you should have clicked that. *Sort of because it is a tiny sample size.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/21 05:24 PM
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It is not being an incel which makes them those things, many men (incels or otherwise) are misogynistic (sometimes it is a factor in sexlessness, sometimes it isn't) - all women weigh that up, it's not targeted at incels. There are very few women who consider all men to be 'rapists in waiting' and there are even fewer who regularly think about incels - a lot of people don't even know what the red pill or the manosphere is. Again, there is not some group decision from women to deny incels sex. Pa…
/r/ExRedPill01/11/21 12:55 PM
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Most people don't give a shit about who isn't or isn't getting sex unless it's themselves. There is no targeted desire from women to stop incels getting sex.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/21 10:47 AM
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What country do you live in?
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 03:49 PM
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I'm glad you're seeing someone for your depression, do you remember things you liked doing or can you think of anything you value or admire in others that is a skill one could do as a hobby? That can be a good place to start if you're not feeling actually invested in anything at the moment. Generally speaking you think of the thing you want to do and put it in to Google with the name of the city after it. E.g. Boardgame clubs Toronto, Historical Reenactments Rome, Juggling and circus skills Manc…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 02:12 PM
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What do you like doing? Find People in your city who like doing the same thing (they will exist) Go do the thing and be as open to meeting people as you can, I recommend the three visit rule - if you go three times and still don't vibe, that's ok, try something else. Choirs almost always need more lower voices and loads of them exist for a range of ages and demographics. If you hate singing, don't do it, but if you're open to it, honestly a good sing is good for people.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 01:53 PM
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'What makes you like someone before you find them attractive'. I answered. I'm not sure why you are responding as though I said something out of nowhere.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 07:28 AM
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I feel like the answer to this is quite obvious. Firstly, the people you're talking to 1 to 1 already know you. They have at least some idea of your limits/boundaries, politics, generally who you are. They know the context from which your controversial ideas stem. Secondly, in person or with people you are at least somewhat familiar with it is much easier to read tone and nuance (especially if you are speaking in person). Thirdly, it is more likely that the people you surround yourself with in r…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/21 07:01 AM
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Therapy.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 09:39 PM
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I don't dislike you. I find your unwillingness to follow the advice to change and your doomer/catastrophising outlook tiring. I find you frustrating because you complain, and when people suggest things that might help you basically so 'no it won't' and then keep complaining. It's annoying. People here give you advice and try to be kind but your own self-loathing makes you one-track and virtually unwilling to take any suggestions seriously. But I find your outlook annoying and frustrating I reall…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 09:27 PM
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Don't forget tiring! You're also very tiring! Predominantly because you're so negative.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 09:19 PM
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Sure, but some people have a higher success rate than others. There are men who can find a date within a week or a few while someone like me have never been on a date in their 20s Sure. But I don't think some people have a higher success rate means it's not still mostly down to luck? Especially for the people looking for relationships. It's not like i talk like that IRL, but even if i stopped saying that then what would it change? Good, it'd be even weird to talk like that irl. But also there's …
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 09:02 PM
2

I liked my soon-to-be husband before I was physically or sexually attracted to him, at best I thought he was 'ok' looking. I was very into his sense of humour and our fairly intense discussions about ethics.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 08:57 PM
1

You and the 'my face is ok but height is everything' incels should chat.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 08:55 PM
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You stated literally a day or so ago that you were, in fact, 'born' boring and dull and ugly. SO like... which is it?
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 08:52 PM
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Dating is based on luck for pretty much everyone. A good start would be to stop refering yourself as 'an ugly short man with low social status'. You might say it's true, but it's still a weird way to describe yourself or other people and that in itself is off putting. Also, what is low social status? It's much harder to quantify than people think.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/21 03:32 PM
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I mean, it's fairly actively shown in the show that it's not necessarily very good advice.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/21 12:25 AM
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Eh, it's probably not worth it because it probably won't help you like yourself any more.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/21 11:41 PM
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May as well try the therapy then. That at least has a possible chance of bringing about change.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:57 PM
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Depends on the therapist, but probably not unless you were anxious (in which case, disappointingly, breathing actually can help - I wish it didn't because it's just so cliche, but does). Either, you want help and to change - in which case, therapy is your best bet. Or, you don't and you'd like to stay miserable. If you'd like to change but don't think anything will help, you're still better off trying than not because if you don't try then it's pretty definite nothing will change.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:50 PM
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intrique to sit and listen to how all my experiences in my life were because of my "Personality". I think you fundamentally misunderstand how therapy works.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:41 PM
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Hence the low self-esteem and depression. Because you genuinely believe all of this is True and Facts. Get some therapy my dude, at the very least you'll probably find some things that really aren't that bad about yourself.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:30 PM
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Because you think you're a dull and boring person and doomed and ugly - you don't seem to like yourself very much.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:25 PM
2

Situational depression and low self-esteem/depression can absolutely stem from internalising ideas about yourself when people treat you. Like, that's a very obvious thing that could bring about depression and questions of self-worth.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:20 PM
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Eh, I doubt it.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 05:51 PM
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Not getting their depression treated is an excuse people make. Most people who deal with their depression start doing better.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 05:46 PM
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ngl, not super familiar with horton hears a who, although doesn't it turn out that he really does hear them? Not sure. Anyway. You're probably depressed, that's something you should deal with. Honestly, not being depressed might change your personality a bit.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 05:38 PM
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People are pretty consistently terrible at assessing themselves, actually. You know best how you feel, sure. But you don't necessarily know best how you/things are.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 05:29 PM
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Honestly, seems fake. Like, I believe you think those things about yourself, but I don't necessarily think they are true. On the basis that one person's dull is another person's passion.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I'm gonna need you to be more specific.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 05:08 PM
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What about you, exactly, is dull and boring?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 02:26 PM
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I mean, it's blatant and unsubstantiated bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 06:16 AM
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I'm coping well, actually. Generally pretty content and all that. I'm sure looks do matter more for casual sex, but not everyone wants casual sex and again, they probably still matter less than you think.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 11:24 AM
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Do women love their high school sex partners more than the ones they have in adulthood? No. Jfc, absolutely not. In anyway is high school sex more meaningful and better to women? No. Often it is both less meaningful and worse. Do women long for a return to the state of young love they were in back in high school? No. Jfc, absolutely not.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 09:10 AM
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Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 08:40 PM
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No, I think there is little to no truth in it. Especially on a broad 'women in general' basis.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:38 PM
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Once a day? I really can't tell if you're kidding. If that's your measure for how often the average person has sex then no wonder all your other ideas on the subject are also wildly incorrect. Most experts say that the average couple, made up of presumably average people, has sex about once a week. Which is somewhat of a percentage difference. Teenagers compare themselves to others, sure, but not necessarily about how much sex they're having? I'm sure some do compare over that, I did with my fri…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:35 PM
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There's a whole lot of treating men and women like monoliths here. Not all women lie about their sexual history. Not all women want to be with men who have had lots of sex with lots of other women?? what? Not all men want women who haven't had many partners, and presumably that number varies between each individual man? It would be in each individual person's best interest to look for partners with whom they have compatible values regarding sex, whatever that looks like for them.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:29 PM
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'Women' as a whole do not have a single preference. Women aren't a monolith and don't have a hive mind. For both genders there is usually a question regarding how many people a person has been with before, generally more in the vein of past relationships or 'had a few flings that I don't really remember' etc. And some people may be more or less concerned with how many previous people or the circumstances, but for the most part it's just a getting to know you thing before starting a sexual relati…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:04 PM
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How much sex does the average person have, do you think? The idea of there being 'all the sex' or indeed that most of it was 'the best sex of [people's] lives' is all assumption on your part. The amount of sex a person has or doesn't have in their life isn't a race. It's not something you can be 'behind' in. No one - other than you, apparently - is sitting there going 'oh you got to [arbitrary age] without having an orgy whilst swinging from a thousand year old maple wood?? Well you're just subp…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 06:58 PM
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Oh, I wrote a good reply to this when you posted it on incelexit and I've almost definitely lost that copied text now... (I checked. I have lost it, sad times). Anyway. The summation of my answer was essentially: Lots of people graduate from high school as virgins, this is fine. Targetting just 'sexually unsuccessful' boys would only reinforce the idea that there's something wrong with being a virgin, when there isn't. It would be better to try and combat the stigma than the lack of sex, which w…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 06:52 PM
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From the men I know... I don't think that's always how it works for men, let alone not being the case for women. Society has an idea of men always being up for sex, this isn't necessarily true. Society has an idea of women always needing to be persuaded, this isn't necessarily true. This particular experience is much more varied than that and very difficult to categorise across the lines of gender.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 05:09 PM
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Well, one of the words (slut) you can just type out. The other word you already chose to self-censor because you know it's inappropriate. That pretty clearly shows they're not equivalent. I agree with your more general points about language use, seeing how words dehumanise, the amount of gendered insults for women who have sex, and gender abolition.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 12:54 PM
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No, in the (admittedly few) occasions it's happened I've always felt terrible. And also there was a friendship I had where I was worried the guy was into me and kept panicking about if I'd have to turn him down and feeling really bad about it. At most I have felt neutral - when it's a man I don't know I don't feel bad for rejecting them but I don't feel great about it. I hope they go on to find someone who is interested and I hope I didn't ruin their day, I try to be as nice as possible. If it's…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 12:52 PM
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Yes, you are wrong to assume that women place a lower importance on the equivalent for men. Again, women looking to be in a long term relationship and intending to bring children into that are going to want their partner to be a good father and therefore display good parental skills. There is also not necessarily a reason to think children will necessarily be with their mothers more than their fathers. Additionally, children learn a lot from the relationship they see modelled between their paren…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/21 09:45 PM
2

In answer to your title question: Yes.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/21 07:19 PM
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Generally speaking the men having lots of sex are sleeping with the same collection of women. It's sort of like the same 10% of men are sleeping with the same 10% of women. (I pulled these numbers out of my ass, it is not accurate). There will then be the middle ground where the vast majority of people are. Then a collection of sexless men and women, let's say also 10% of each. No one is saying looks don't matter, especially for casual sex they do. They just matter significantly less than TRP ma…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/21 11:38 AM
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Women looking for long term relationships are definitely interested in loyalty and support. Also, I think 'base maternal instinct' or whatever you called it is a bit weird. Like, you're looking for kindness and an element of selflessness - both traits that make a good parent regardless of gender. If a woman is looking for a long term partner to raise children with she's probably also looking for someone who treats others well, especially those who can't offer anything in return. I don't know why…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/21 09:52 AM
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Yes, lots of people make them work and some people make them work really well. It sounds like you're just not that into her if you're losing interest now, an hour is not that far.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/21 06:12 AM
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Do you want them to be specifically talking about their struggles etc? Because I have recommendations where they'll be talking about STUFF and some of their struggles, worries, and perspectives will come in. I recommend: - Contrapoints (like everyone else) - Laura Crone - Sarah Z - Lindsey Ellis - Jenny Nicholson (she's just fun) - Tiffany Ferg - Ladyknightthebrave They all talk about media or popular culture and they are women. Sometimes they talk about a very specific issue, sometimes they als…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 02:50 PM
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Less 'emotional labour' more 'mental load'. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic#aoh=16342224601015&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s Does it happen to everyone/in every couple? Of course not! But there is a socialisation aspect that is really quite clear.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 02:42 PM
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I'm over 10 years older than you, I am not about to rate or comment on the looks of a minor. You would probably benefit from 1. Stopping your visits to red pill sites/forums, and 2. Looking into techniques for dealing with anxiety that comes from uncertainty.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 07:22 AM
2

Being a feminist is unlikely to help or to hinder your chances of finding a relationship. Holding feminist views is also unlikely to impact things like your career. So no, you don't need to be a feminist to live a successful life, I'm sure there are plenty of people who are currently out living successful lives who aren't feminists. Being a feminist would not stop you from being autistic. You say feminist men seem more successful in dating than autistic men - this firstly isn't something that we…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 06:52 AM
1

That's not really enough to conclude it's about looks. For all you know she likes him for other reasons and he is hot. The hottest guy in the world could undo my bra in front of people and I'd be fuming because I did not want him to - especially if it's a stranger who is trying to undo my bra because I smiled at him. I don't want anyone to undo my bra in front of other people. I'd be pissed off as fuck. If she'd told him to fuck off how do you think he'd have taken it?
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 09:47 PM
1

Attraction doesn't particularly play into this. Plenty of attractive dudes also receive basic human decency, assume it is more than that, and then become aggressive and/or horrible people when they find out that no, it was just a smile.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 09:29 PM
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It is a not uncommon experience for women to show basic decency to a man, even just smiling at them on the street, and for the man to assume it is flirting. If he does, and he then tries to 'flirt' back (ask for your number, want q prolonged conversation etc) and the woman refuses (because she just smiled at a stranger to be nice). He can become aggressive; verbally, physically etc. And even if the woman doesn't feel unsafe, it's still not pleasant. Tl:dr - it can be risky if men think you are f…
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 01:29 PM
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Confidence is sort of a mixture of several things: accurately understanding your level of competence in a skill understanding that if you try to complete the skill and it doesn't go as planned that you will be ok/be able to deal with it/that it's still a learning process. For example, I am not confident in my ability to speak Spanish. I have a level of ability that is probably higher than I accurately guage but I don't push it because I feel I would 'not be ok' if I did it badly (I would be emba…
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 01:11 PM
1

It is not true that they do that, so there is no number.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/21 02:29 PM
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The moment you start using the labels and categories they use in FDS, you start seeing the whole world like that. It's not a healthy way to view the world and will mess up your interactions in it, regardless of how the other person is. Look at all the posts here from men who got into red-pill to find a specific type of woman who are now having to unlearn/relearn how to understand the real world. FDS does the same.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/21 05:26 PM
2

One of the things about emotion is that actually, you can't really control it. You can't control how you feel, only how you react to those feelings. So feelings are always valid - you can't choose them and you can't just stop them. They are what they are. Feelings are not always rational - you might feel a certain way knowing the feeling isn't what you want or really appropriate for the situation. Feelings should not be taken as proof of something e.g. feeling scared doesn't mean something is tr…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/21 05:12 PM
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No, FDS is just going to mess you up even with men who aren't redpilled/sexist. You're much better off just knowing your own boundaries for what sort of language/actions you will tolerate and what you won't. There's a whole thing about deal breakers, preferences and things you don't care about - know what all of those things are. If you are good at respecting others' boundaries and maintaining your own, then you don't need to worry about somehow accidentally ending up with a sexist man.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/21 05:01 PM
1

So I really don't care about Kevin Samuels. I'm not here to defend or condemn him. Although, tbh, it just seems like he makes you angry and then gives an unhelpful outlet to that anger - so maybe he's not that great for people. I understand why people find him appealing, but I also understand why people smoke - doesn't make it any better for them. Like, I don't disagree with what you're talking about being negative. But I don't know how shitting on other people is ever going to help.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 04:19 PM
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I'm not questioning your experiences, but try not to focus on the idea that your experiences are somehow evidence of how things are for everyone or uniquely oppressive. I also had earfulls from parents and teachers, for years, about how I should be and how I was failing and how I needed to be better. Often based on things that I wasn't doing or to blame for. It is not an experience unique to being a young black man in the US. That isn't to say it isn't damaging nor that their aren't unique exper…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 02:15 PM
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I fundamentally disagree with the idea that women don't get criticised. Trust me, we do. A lot. Even if we didn't, how is it helpful to say 'This Bad Thing sucks and is damaging, so I am glad when Bad Thing happens to even more people'. If you want to change the way boys are raised and socialised, being glad women get (more) criticism isn't the way to do it.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 08:37 AM
2

So, in my favourite romance book, the love interest is a high school English teacher in a small town and very happy there. He's noted as being not as attractive as the other main male character (who is muscular and socially dominant, but not presented as a love interest in the book). He is not sporty at all, it's noted that he has few friends and whilst he's passionate about things a lot of the time when he's being very driven it is painted as a bad thing - him letting go of some control to dele…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 08:16 PM
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Older men certainly do prey on young girls, the number of friends I have who were kissed or touched by a man in his 40s when they were in their teens. It's upsetting and troublesome. This is not the same as 'hitting on', which implies some sort of reciprocity. There is a power play and it's not good. Actually relationships between people with large age gaps do happen, but it is usually something that happens more organically - two people get on and happen to have a big gap, they then go for a re…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 12:35 PM
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I feel like my reply to the original post and to this is, I'm not sure which shows/books this person is drawing their data from? I love romance books and my favourite ones have male leads that very much aren't as this person is claiming they 'all' are. For starters, this implies that a lot of these types of media involve women cheating on their husbands, which... I'm sure is a subgenre of romance but certainly isn't the case for a VAST majority of it. These shows were not made by or for feminist…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/21 04:09 PM
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I certainly don't.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 12:17 PM
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Ah hello again. I was just thinking of you and how we hadn't seen posts from you for quite a while. I'm glad you're not dead or something. All that being said, I see you're still stuck on the idea that any of this advice 'guarantees' a partner. You were happiest in your own skin and were at the best place mentally - those are both ends in their own right and the fact you didn't get romantic interest in that time span isn't evidence that being happy and confident in your own skin is bad advice, i…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 10:03 AM
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How would that work, practically? It would have to be the case that men in any relationship ever were not vulnerable with their (female) partners. That's just not achievable. Given that eventually the guy would have to be vulnerable eventually, and the fact that many relationships do not end at that point, clearly women do not react negatively to all forms of vulnerability every time. My partner expresses himself all the time to me, in whatever form that takes - sometimes it does include tears o…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/21 04:38 PM
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When I was 16, I did what probably counted as 'shit testing'. I wouldn't explain what I was doing, but I would do things (usually cry or something) and see how he reacted. I would then get mad at him if he didn't react the way I wanted. I did not get explain any of this to him. This was, clearly, absolute bullshit but I was 16 and I have since matured and no longer do that sort of thing. Tbh I think any woman doing the sort of things I just described is not mature enough for a relationship, if y…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/21 02:50 PM
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'Hate it' feels like too strong an emotion, it mostly just makes me roll my eyes. Mildly annoying at best. I find it annoying because: Female and male are adjectives. It's a word that typically goes before something else e.g. female wolf, male ostrich, female teacher, male electrician etc. To see it used as a stand alone noun is quite jarring from the perspective of a lot of native English speakers unless they have spent a lot of time in spaces that use it as a noun, and those spaces often have …
/r/ExRedPill27/09/21 07:59 AM
1

Two things. There are plenty of lonely and sexually frustrated women. How has that got any relevance to the existence or not of 'Chads'
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 10:28 AM
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Yeah, no. Firstly, why does everyone in TRP mindsets read 'self-improvement' and hear 'body build'. Like there's an article lower down on this sub that points out plenty of women (myself included) aren't really into muscles. Being muscular really, really, really isn't a necessary thing. Secondly, u/redpilldetox talked honestly about how living with parents can hamper the dating/sex life prospects of anyone of any gender. It's not some manosphere thing - having their own/more free space makes it …
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 12:52 PM
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No, it's not really a thing.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/21 08:10 PM
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The poster isn't giving generic reasons to cheat, they're just explaining how people who make these sorts of posts justify themselves. And the tweets that have upset you don't do those things, indicating that they are fake. Sounds like you make your girlfriend feel better when she feels that way, great. Also sounds like you have some trauma from getting cheated on in the past - understandable, but ultimately you need to find healthy ways to manage this. Being worked up over people lying on Twitt…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/21 08:54 AM
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The manosphere to alt-right pipeline is well documented.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 11:29 AM
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I know the general basis around hypergamy is stupid but you never know. We do know - it's stupid. You already know it's stupid. Also, there are some really great posts a bit further down below this that show how nonsensical it is. It's not in 'female nature' (because that's not a thing) and it's not a prevalent thing in society unless you stretch the definition to literally describe 'when you stop liking someone you stop dating them' which is a genderless thing. If you want examples of hypergamy…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/21 10:56 PM
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I've been with my partner for almost 8 years, I regularly go on girls nights out/go to bars/go on holidays with my female friends without my partner. I get drunk, I have a great time with my friends, I come home. Not once have I even come close to cheating on my partner, because I love him and I wouldn't want to hurt him like that. He trusts that I wouldn't, in the same way that I would trust that he wouldn't. Either you do actually trust her or you don't.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/21 06:36 PM
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There are definitely healthy versions of masculinity out there! I really recommend menslib and bropill as places to dip into and see men talking about men's issues in positive and informed ways. (Not always, every sub has it's issues, but mostly). Also I like to think about big campaigns like Movember are what positive men's advocate movements look like.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 02:16 PM
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I'm sorry your parents make you feel this way because of their unkind views towards the LGBTQ+ community. It is likely they are just expressing their views without even considering that it might be something you possibly identify with - they are not targeting you to prevent you from being LGBTQ+, they're just expressing their views and assuming you will agree/won't be harmed by them. This still sucks, but hopefully it helps a little that it's likely not directly aimed at you. If you are gay or b…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 08:25 AM
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Generally yes, as it mostly talks about how much it doesn't like women/feminism/how women have it so good and men don't etc. Which, firstly, I disagree with but secondly, doesn't do anything to help. MRA and that subreddit seemingly exists to react angrily to feminism and complain about women, which is basically the rest of the manosphere too. There are other places such as menslib, bropill and in general men's liberation groups which do a much better job actually making positive changes to the …
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 08:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZo4x0NbbI&ab_channel=hbomberguy You're clearly ridiculous, but anyone else here - have an hour long video deconstructing the idea of the 'war on Christmas'.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 08:15 AM
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I think it is helpful to understand that good intent does not mean actions are not harmful. It's a very useful thing to understand. I do agree that the consequences were very harsh and he did not deserve it. The response was not proportional at all to his actions. These two things do not contradict.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 10:49 AM
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'I didn't mean to harass anyone' =/= 'I did not harass anyone'. You say your behaviour wasn't bad and then explain how you didn't have the intent to cause harm. Well, great, well done for not wanting to harass people. But it sounds like even if that wasn't your intention, it was what you did. Your intent does not change the impact of your actions.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 09:13 AM
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That doesn't sound unappealing because you're not 'dominant'. It more sounds like you're difficult to build a partnership with - your live and let live attitude might make it seem like you don't care and/or that you won't help out. I'm not saying this is the case for you, but from what you've said I would guess it's not about masculinity or dominance.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 09:10 AM
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You see a therapist, that's what you do. And talk to them about your overwhelming anxiety leading to suicidal ideation. Being really scared about climate change is understandable, but when that fear leads to wanting to die and/or interferes with your day-to-day life you need to seek professional help. I don't really understand the feminist thing? Like, climate change is scary but feminists aren't. You don't say why it is you are scared of them?
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 06:32 AM
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I enjoy the extreme level of specificity they need to go to to make the point. Like, it's not just 'promiscuous, meaning whatever a person takes it to mean' it's a very specific outline, despite the fact most RP guys don't seem to have as rigid a definition. I think a much bigger factor on which to judge if someone is more likely to cheat is if they have in the past. If they had multiple casual sexual partners that means nothing about how they function in a committed monogamous relationship. Are…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/21 05:07 PM
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I think he's as dishonest as the rest of them.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/21 08:54 AM
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I'm a woman and can share my views with you. I'm know/am sure there are others around too.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/21 08:50 AM
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I believe, fully, that you are not lying about how you perceive yourself. But people are notoriously bad at perceiving themselves accurately. That you feel yourself to be ugly and see ugliness when you look at yourself. I believe you. And I'm sorry you feel like that. That you actually are so ugly that you won't find love or a partner because of it. That it is just 'a fact'. I don't believe, because that's not how the world works. Even for dudes who think they look ugly.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 09:32 PM
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Again, basically every single guy who comes here has said that. It's never been true. In the nicest way possible - you're not that special, it's very likely not true for you either.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 08:58 PM
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It's funny, every guy here insists that the trait they have is the 'worst possible trait'. Hate to break it to you, but you can't all be right. Also, you then list yourself as ugly, so like... which is it? Would your shyness not be an issue if you weren't 'ugly'? In which case, it wouldn't the shyness that was the main issue. So here's the thing, shyness is fine, not being a model or w/e is also fine. The chances are, you're just quite introverted and would come out of your shell with some close…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 06:11 PM
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'Do women really see men just as walking ATMs?' - No. Is this just 'female nature' - No. Also, 'So many women just get with men for their money' - citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/21 07:55 PM
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It is, the levels are staying roughly equal and also the increase in virginity has been the case for both sexes. Stealing u/Dark__Horse's response. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the average age Americans lose their virginity (defined here as vaginal sexual intercourse) is 17.1 for both men and women. The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males ages 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for both male and female v…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/21 03:17 PM
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Listen to =/= compare yourself to in order to feel miserable. I have several female friends who feel like there's something broken about them because no one has ever expressed interest in them and the people they've expressed interest in haven't reciprocated. It's really not as uncommon as you feel, it's just that most people don't either make an identity around it or post about it on the internet.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/21 02:21 PM
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Some women also feel like you. It is what it is. Looking at the people who find things easier and feeling shit about it isn't helpful or going to aid you in finding a solutions to your problems.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/21 11:56 AM
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This makes it sound like women pick from all men and can have whoever they want. Which is not true. Many women deal with unrequited love and men who don't choose them back. Women don't just pick and that's it. They may have more people initially to choose from, but there is no guarantee that the person they pick will return their affection. For a relationship to work both parties must choose each other, and that doesn't always happen even if the woman is the person who wants the relationship to …
/r/ExRedPill06/09/21 11:13 AM
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I've said it's a mix. Not because I think RP accurately studies human actions and conduct. Just because I think that people who subscribe to RP think it does. I think it observes a minor aspect of human action (both not many people do it and that it is often a small facet of those who do) and then applies ideology and reasons as though it is a grand observation of all humans they alone can explain.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/21 03:12 PM
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I feel like this always my response but... Who?
/r/ExRedPill31/08/21 02:41 PM
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Silly bot.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/21 01:09 AM
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Honestly I'd settle for just the pockets.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/21 01:01 AM
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Hello, I am a woman. I have a high libido. Higher than my male partner's, in fact. Nice to meet you, I know this doesn't technically count as 'seeing' but like... for all you know you *see* loads, I just assume you aren't privy to that sort of information about every woman you see.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/21 01:01 AM
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No 'research' or 'statistic' says how people 'have' to be. They might show general trends and offer possible (but not necessarily certain) explanations for said trends, but any proper scientific paper is not about to be making claims about how things 'should' (aka 'have') to be. Edited to appease the bot.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/21 12:59 AM
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I don't watch random youtube videos, do you have cliffnotes? I disagree with the title though.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/21 09:46 PM
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Sometimes, sad though it is, you're better off just creating a new account. I never get recommended those sorts of videos because as far as my youtube account is concerned I've never watched them.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/21 04:32 PM
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There is a whole side of (generally left leaning) youtube that does call these things out: Shaun, Contrapoints, H.Bomberguy, Thoughtslime, Lindsay Ellis, Sarah Z etc etc. If you get into their stream of youtube then the type of content drastically changes. I think Thoughtslime is the one who made the video about/laughing at the concept of sigma males, but I don't really remember.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/21 12:02 PM
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I watched a video about 'sigma' males and at one point one of the guys arguing for sigma as an idea just yelled 'We're the smart ones' over and over again, and it's just... hard to imagine anyone watching that and not seeing how ridiculous it is. I'm not suggesting you say that to him, because it would likely feel like an attack, but it's still funny. I think starting from the point that these things don't even exist in wolves, and if they did that would be no reason to assume they also exist in…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/21 10:18 AM
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She can smile at whoever she wants. I think it's weird and uncomfortable, but that's not the same as 'bad' or 'immoral'. Everyone involved is an adult.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/21 11:16 AM
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How old are you and your friends? I mean... I'm not sure why you should resent her for this beyond it all being a bit cringey.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/21 10:51 AM
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People are still talking about this? That phase ended years ago, beyond a slight resurgence at the start of 2020 it's a fairly 'done' fandom. I think 'every' teenage girl might be a stretch. Trust me, there are a lot of fictional characters teenagers read and fall in love with. They get over it and they usually learn things about what creepy relationships look like (looking at basically every relationship in Twilight tbh).
/r/ExRedPill25/08/21 04:46 PM
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I'm sure there is a better way theoretically, but I don't know what it would look like. I'm a woman, so I wouldn't want to make that call anyway, but honestly something just like a regular support group in a sort of formal setting would be a good structural way to do it. Outside of that, I guess it's about empowering male friendships. More Sam and Frodo, less Superman and Batman (who aren't really friends but kind of bond over the fact both their mums were called Martha??). One of the biggest di…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 09:21 PM
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I'm in the UK - I definitely never met anyone at uni like that!
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 12:51 PM
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I gave you anecdotes of what you're worrying about not happening. All we can do is respond with anecdotes. The difference is that you take anecdotes and decide that something is 'always' the case. And I'm saying: if it's 'always' the case, then there shouldn't be anecdotes to counter it. But there are. I'm not saying these things never happen - I'm sceptical of some of the details in your anecdotes but I can respect the idea that some women have lots of casual sex with a particular type of guy a…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 11:23 AM
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Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 11:18 AM
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Get new friends. Wtf. I am a woman and I've never cheated nor have I ever had sex outside of my relationships (no ONS etc). The same is true for basically all of my female friends, in fact I don't think any of them have cheated (plenty have been cheated on). But also... I don't get messages/information about what they do in the bedroom with specific guys/their partners. The idea of them telling me such specifics is really weird. I do know, roughly, what they're into because we do talk about it, …
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 11:15 AM
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Fresh and Fit are coming under a lot of fire recently, so I'd be wary of taking their word for much. Also, see the other comment about faking things for entertainment/drama/internet points. Additionally, I really don't think using celebrity examples are indicative at all of the behaviour of average men and women. Celebrities have really very different lives and an exceptionally different level of money to most people, and that sort of drama for them is encouraged. For the average couple things a…
/r/ExRedPill17/08/21 03:12 PM
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Real love is a hard concept to define. But healthy love - respectful, interested, communicative - is definitely worth it and also fairly easy to observe out in the world if you're looking for it. You're just exceptionally unlikely to give or get that sort of love through TRP methods.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 09:40 PM
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I am a woman. I can tell you that I am enthusiastic about having sex with my partner pretty much constantly. There is no ovulation window in which I am keen and then the rest of the time I just accept it. Across the whole month I am enthusiastically up for sex.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 02:22 PM
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In the same way cheese does - it depends.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 04:33 PM
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'Most' - gives two examples. It happened to you, it caused you a lot of pain, and now you struggle because you worry about it happening again and have found 'evidence' or it happening to a few other people. You are confusing 'I am afraid that most women do this' with 'It is a fact most women do this'. The first statement is based on your feelings following an upsetting experience. Feelings are always valid but not necessarily always rational - it is not wrong for you to feel this way but it is a…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 08:59 AM
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Yes.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 08:44 AM
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Female - 27 - ENFP-A (sometimes, but rarely, ENFJ). I am also a Pisces :P
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 08:40 PM
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But it is not a description of what 'all women' do in dating. In fact, it's literally advice for something she thinks might help. If it has to be advised, doesn't that suggest it's not actually the most common way of doing things? Or at least, not something everyone has thought of doing. If AF/BB was real, then women wouldn't need to be advised to do something that sounds like it because they'd already be out there doing that. And... they're not. At least not en masse, I'm sure some are but not …
/r/ExRedPill07/08/21 08:25 PM
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I think you fundamentally overestimate how many women out there are like the people in the FDS subreddit. You'll probably notice people who subscribe to FDS ideas by their choice of language (personally I would suggest no one date anyone who describes another person as 'low' or 'high' value) and their expectations/boundaries compared with yours. For example, if you always want to split the bill - when discussing/organising a date, make that expectation/boundary clear. Same with other areas, set …
/r/ExRedPill05/08/21 05:17 PM
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The claim implies that 'all women' do this. So if any woman doesn't do that, it's countered. I am a woman. I did not do that. Easy. Neither, for what it's worth, did most of my friends - the majority of my immediate friendship group (7 women) - only one has had more than 2 sexual partners, and we're 27. Of this group, 4 of us are in long term relationships/getting married. So, at what point in time were the meant to go wild and have sex with loads of men and at what point do they settle for prov…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 09:23 PM
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I second the suggestion of speaking to a trained professional, there's clearly a lot of anxiety and fear thoughts going on. Combined with a general dislike of yourself. The best way to unpack and learn to manage these feelings is to speak to a trained therapist. But to address the two main points: All these 'thousands' of options are rarely, if ever, 'options'. They are, at best, a passing comment that makes you feel a bit grimey just for reading it. It's saying that someone surrounded by post c…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 07:26 PM
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RP: Females ONLY want men who are rich and can provide?!? WHAT BITCHES. Also RP: Females who earn money and can look after themselves are prideful and can't be lead. WHAT BITCHES. Also, also RP: My views are logically consistent and will lead me to living a happy and fulfilled life. Why does everyone keep accusing me of hating women??
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 07:18 PM
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It generally comes from people who view themselves as nicer than the man a woman chooses. Is he actually an asshole? Probably not. But the dude who didn't get the attention sure thinks he is. There are also 'bad boys' in media that are appealing. They're usually attractive, enigmatic, moody/taciturn, a bit of a loner and (importantly) have a secret softer side that slowly opens up. Do women like men who treat them badly? I'm sure some might, but in general the majority do not.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 07:53 AM
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're-attract'? No. No contact helps you heal after a break up and prevent unhealthy interactions (one person being clingy/overly invested, one person exploiting the others' willingness etc). It is unlikely to cause someone to come back/change their mind about the break up.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/21 12:57 PM
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I suspect a lot of this data is doing the whole 'lifetime number' to 'premarital number' switcheroo.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/21 11:01 AM
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Even if I was like 'yes, you're objectively ugly' that wouldn't mean I thought it was 'over' for you. For starters, you're going to be 22 when this surgery happens, that's hardly old and decrepit. I get that it feels that way, when I was 16-18 I was sure I was going to do certain things by the time I was 23. I'm now 27 and haven't done most of those things, and that's probably a good thing. Life shouldn't all happen in one condensed period of time. I don't think it's your fault that you've been …
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 10:32 PM
1

Hello again. You can just be you. Works for plenty of other people.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 05:27 PM
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Which is more likely: A nebulous socio-natural concept, seemingly pertaining only to women, is objectively real but affects some people (again, specifically women) so differently that you need to put caveats in about the effects of said concept The concept doesn't really exist in the world and trying to make a uniform rule about the experiences of an entire gender is flawed at best. In short - how many different ways can 'the wall' affect people before the phrase/concept is meaningless? Because …
/r/ExRedPill27/07/21 06:56 AM
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Magic Mike is so popular in no small part because it really humanises the characters. Yeah, they're hunky, but also they're people and we get to see their struggles. Hot people with emotional complexity. It's a combination, not just the 'hot'. You're focusing too much on the bodies and completely skipping all the other things that make hot men attractive. There's loads of variation in media aimed at women, and even if there wasn't - it's not like women are exclusively the ones deciding what they…
/r/ExRedPill26/07/21 10:35 PM
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I'm not about to watch them, but as a rule anyone talking about 'male/female nature' is so grossly over-generalising that they cannot possibly be 'right' in what they are saying.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/21 03:22 PM
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So much of this is wrong, there's so much to unpack. And I have neither the time nor the energy right now. Suffice to say, yes many of these views are misogynistic and most if not all are false or are based on some evidence but a wild conclusion to draw from it e.g. women in one study said they were looking for one thing and went for another during speed dating, therefore never trust what women say about dating. Like... probably the conclusion of the actual study was like 'women in this particul…
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 09:32 PM
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It's not true. What finish line? There is no point that someone suddenly becomes desirable because they have 'won' (at what? Life? Life isn't something you win and it's also something that you might feel you're winning and then throws a curve ball). People in the RP/incel spaces complain about the opposite all the time - 'why should I have to self improve when people who don't do any of this [don't work, have poor mental health, are overweight etc] are in relationships'. It's contradictory to co…
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 10:07 AM
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There's this strange idea that women as a group - and the implication here is that at least 'most' women - want to fuck around in their 20s and then reach their 30s and suddenly are like 'oh shit I actually want kids and a family, better settle' and it's just... not really how people work? Sure, some people (regardless of gender) do mess around in their youth and then want to settle down when they're older (settle down =/= 'settle'). But lots of people do have a good idea of what they want - tha…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 05:06 PM
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Yes. Good looking men can be rejected while cold approaching. And to reply to your other comment, cold approaching for friendship sounds like a strange concept? I don't know anyone who has been approached at a bar by a stranger who just wanted to meet people as friends. It would still be a strange social interaction, because that's not usually 'how it goes' when people make friends. But in general, no, women aren't going to avoid friendships with men because they aren't attracted to them.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/21 09:04 AM
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Seems like pretty much what myself and most of my female friends want. There are almost 4 billion women in the world, I'm fairly confident there will be plenty who have similar life goals to you.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/21 04:21 PM
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People cheat. I'm not sure how this supports the red pill?
/r/ExRedPill04/07/21 09:06 AM
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Maybe she won't know how much money you have? Maybe she'll know but actually you get to know her and realise her priorities are different. Maybe she'll make more than you. I don't disagree that society teaches that money is something that solves all life's problems - make money and you'll be loved! wanted! adored! but I think most people, especially when they reach adulthood, realise that it's not really true. Sometimes it's going to attract people to you, but it won't necessarily keep them ther…
/r/ExRedPill01/07/21 11:58 PM
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Sexuality is defined by attraction to gender, not sex. So yeah, sexual chromosomes can't change, but gender is separate from that. Also, we rarely know for sure what chromosomes someone has and people can have typical secondary sex characteristics even if their chromosomes are a bit different. So unless you're demanding chromosome tests from everyone you date, who knows.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 06:38 PM
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Dating mtf trans people means they are not gay - trans women are women. Sounds more like he's making a choice that is just going to make him unhappy and be unfair to the people he is seeking out for sex and relationships because he's gone for some severe black and white thinking.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 08:16 AM
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The ideology - best of being 'ex' it. The top - it's hilarious, but I'm not sure it's intended to be.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/21 09:26 PM
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Your question intrigues me because lots of RP stuff says that our behaviour (like hypergamy, AF: BB and all that other nonsense) is biological. Depending on the version of RP they either go heavily into 'everything was fine until the Feminists and now society is broken' or they go for 'women were always like this it's in their nature'. Clearly, both can't coexist and tbh, both are patently false if anyone looks at any amount of history or even just different cultures or a deep dive into how thin…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/21 12:24 PM
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You said you weren't bitter about dating, just life. Yet you talk about how women don't have to try because men approach them. So clearly you're talking about dating there. Firstly, in life - which you were claiming to be talking about - women absolutely have to try. Secondly, women do also have to try in dating. Not being the ones who approach most often doesn't mean they don't have to try at all.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/21 04:44 PM
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I don't know what LMS is, so I assume it can't be that important!
/r/ExRedPill16/06/21 06:18 PM
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I'm not going to watch it. What exactly is he saying about women. Because even without watching it I can tell you that anything claiming to give truth about how 'all women are' is not telling the truth.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/21 07:39 AM
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Is there anything suggesting that they're specifically having sexual activity with men? With that being said - the telegraph report is behind a paid subscription wall so it's hard to find where they got their statistics from - how many people were in this study? Where were they from? What was the study doing? Who funded it? Additionally, the only thing I could find was a few years old and suggested that: Rates of sex are going down for all genders, so while there is discrepancy it's not that sex…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/21 09:07 PM
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'Shit testing' is generally something only teenagers/very immature women do. It generally makes the people involved miserable/the relationship full of drama. So yes, it does happen, but not particularly regularly/people usually grow out of it and generally you're right, it doesn't work out for the women doing it.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/21 07:52 PM
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It was created by exredpill people.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/21 08:49 PM
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Dude, it'd probably be good for you to stop going onto those sorts of subreddits. It's ok to be jealous or be sad about your situation. People can't control how they feel. What people can control is how they act and, to a certain extent, how they understand and process things. That meme wasn't particularly funny, so in that sense (assuming it was women who made it) they were in the wrong. As much as one can be for making an un-funny meme.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/21 07:08 PM
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How are we defining 'highly successful' here? Because I don't think your claim that successful men want housewives and successful women don't want househusbands is still way too broad a statement.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/21 08:37 AM
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That is from the journal of Medieval & Renaissance Drama in England, which makes me intrigued but also skeptical of taking their statistic on face value. But it's behind a paywall and I'm not going to take the daily mails word for much. I think hypergamy in general society as a biological trait is a lie. I am sure there are cultures, most likely those with some form of arranged marriage.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/21 06:14 PM
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People can also be successful in their careers and be/become parents.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/21 05:17 PM
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Where did you pull this statistic from?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/21 05:00 PM
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The thing is that we've chatted with you before my dude, and you seem to have a lot of negative thinking patterns which make it hard to discuss things. I have no doubt that people have been assholes to you, that was unfair and you don't deserve that. But the worldview you've built based on that is wildly inaccurate.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/21 07:25 AM
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I tell women fairly often that things aren't their fault but are their responsibility. If a woman were saying that they needed evidence that all men weren't inherently cheaters or abusers etc I would tell them the same things Zoe is telling you. That they need to find ways to accept that there isn't evidence about this - the fact no one is studying this sort of thing should, in itself, be an indicator that they aren't really true/worth investigating to prove/disprove. I think the answer is that …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/21 06:59 PM
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It's one of those things that's hard to dispute because no one studies it. I know many people who got together around the ages of 19/20 and are still going strong. The guys involved were neither rich nor people who red pill would describe as chads. They've been in their relationships for almost 10 years now, so it seems unlikely these relationships were just for money or just for sex. People will have dating history the older they get. But that doesn't mean they were looking for the best or 'str…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/21 08:38 AM
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I'm not 'triggered'. If something happens 'every time you ask' clearly you are allowed to ask...
/r/ExRedPill23/05/21 06:46 PM
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No, I don't see lonely men as 'beneath me' and I think I'd notice if my friends were telling people to die alone - something I actively disapprove of telling people. I have never seen someone be 'yelled at' for being a virgin.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/21 05:17 PM
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But if, as you say, women (in general) yell and yell at virgin men and tell them those things, wouldn't it stand to reason that I, as a woman, would have either done that or seen my female friends do that?
/r/ExRedPill23/05/21 04:16 PM
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I am a woman. I like sex. I have also never told anyone to 'stfu and die alone'.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/21 02:25 PM
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Also what if you are trying to hook up with someone and you end up liking them but they reject you and end up looking up with someone else. It happens, it's sad, you move on. Any and all dating/relationships comes with th risk that you're going to be hurt by the relationship ending. That's just how it is.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/21 09:12 AM
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I recommend Cinema Therapy on YouTube, they discuss relationships and therapy but they're very wholesome men.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/21 10:13 PM
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I think that's a bit of a bold claim about all women there. Women can do what they want as long as they're not harming anyone. Same with men. I don't really give a fuck, if you don't want to date people like that then don't.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/21 08:35 AM
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I have never seen what you are describing happen? Was this a specific scenario that has occurred? I'm not even entirely sure what your point is.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/21 08:06 AM
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People who would have identified with the term incel or redpill ideas have existed for a long time. They just didn't have the language for it. It didn't come from the 'dating climate nowadays'. Especially since it the term incel, at the very least, came from a bisexual woman. Online dating sucks, no one denies that. But it sucks for pretty much everyone.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/21 05:53 PM
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I'm a woman. I am actively turned off by large muscles.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/21 01:14 PM
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Gender abolitionism isn't a necessary part of feminism, at least not mainstream feminism. Dismantling gender roles doesn't mean a person cannot adhere to gender roles. It's about personal choice and about making it so that these choices don't come with negative social implications (i.e. don't look down on working mothers, stay at home dad's etc etc). If someone genuinely wants to live the most traditionally 'feminine' lifestyle then feminism has absolutely nothing against that for the individual…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/21 06:41 AM
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I mean, anime is fall of tropes about sex and love and all of that which are a bit yikes. Some cute and cool stuff too, but lots of things that are a bit yikes. Tsundere is a trope I just don't like or understand. I don't massively think about what red pillers would think of the things I write? And when I do, I really don't care. Everyone worries people won't like their work, but why does it matter if a specific group of people whose ideas you don't agree with don't like your work? Try not to ca…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/21 06:07 PM
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Sounds centre, maybe centre with a slight left lean on social issues. But this isn't a politics sub. Gender roles suck, dismantling them is the way to go. ​ I wonder about questions like can you be "non binary" and a feminist, if so, why is feminine better? You can be non-binary and a feminist. Feminism is not the idea that being feminine is better.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/21 06:03 PM
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Women lack inner morality compared to men. lol. Yes, truly it is the normal and well adjusted people missing the truth and not the people making claims like this.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/21 09:43 PM
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I'm a woman who talks honestly and openly about men's issues. I'm fine, no one has ever hated on me for it. I'm also not an MRA.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/21 11:18 PM
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Good sex ed would probably help with lots of things.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/21 11:16 PM
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Are you familiar with the phrase 'it's not your fault but it is your responsibility'?
/r/ExRedPill11/05/21 11:10 PM
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I'm sure everyone has been to some extent. We were all raised in the same (or at least, similar) cultural soup after all.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/21 09:54 AM
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I don't think anyone thinks people end up red pill just for the fun or it or because they were already full of hate. It's one of the reasons people discuss the red pill/alt right pipeline. A person might be watching funny meme or game clips etc and then their recommended video has something with a few nods to red pill ideas, then the next is a bit more explicit etc. etc. As for why people are insecure to begin with, idk, I assume the same reason anyone is.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/21 06:41 PM
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Jokes on them, everyone loves pets.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/21 09:48 PM
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I guess my main question is 'does it stop being romantic love?' Like, is my relationship of almost 8 years no longer 'romantic' love? I feel like it very much still is romantic love, and it definitely doesn't feel shallow. If it were, no one's romantic relationships would last past the powerful infatuation stage. So no, I don't think romantic love is fundamentally based on sexual selection/eugenics. I don't think it can really be based on eugenics in general, unless there is a conscious thought …
/r/ExRedPill07/05/21 09:46 PM
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I am also confused, are you asking a question regarding this? ​ ETA: Female what? If you mean adult female humans then the word you're looking for is 'women'.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/21 06:57 PM
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Figure out what it is that is stopping you having a genuine connection. Remind yourself whenever the thought comes up that there are relationships of all shapes and sizes out there - make yourself pay attention to the couples out and about who don't fit your biases. It'll take a lot of work to unlearn those thought patterns. So keep it up, and avoid any places that reinforce the ideas you're trying to get rid of.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/21 06:56 PM
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They could absolutely still get rejected.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 05:16 PM
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I can see that, but as he points out - self-improvement is something you can't really see in others. Just as women can't see the self improvement men do, same goes the other way. Also, as stated, self-improvement shouldn't be about getting a partner. I do understand the idea of like 'well why was the me before not good enough', it's a horrible thought. I guess that's why it's important to make self-improvement to be for you and not about getting a partner. Because the 'me' before I learned a new…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 04:15 PM
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I mean, it sounds like different women just like different things. Some of them apparently don't like people who are polite and aren't thugs, like, not my thing, but clearly they don't represent all women. By all means don't take an interest in women who don't want the things you offer.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 04:07 PM
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Ok, so you're frustrated by some of society's portrayal of men, of dating expectations, and of the idea that being single means there's something wrong with you. Fair enough, this is something that a lot of people take issue with and some are trying to change. Surely all your self-improvement, assuming it was healthily done and something you actually wanted to do, did make you better in some way, even if that wasn't dating. Again, I certainly am not labelling anyone as hopeless or that there's s…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 02:16 PM
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Told by who?? I can find loads of songs that say loads of different things, song lyrics aren't really proof of anything. Almost every source on self-improvement talks about measuring by how it makes you feel and how much you feel you've developed a given skill. If people are literally telling you it's not a guarantee, then it's not being pedalled and recycled as such is it? The lack of car isn't hurting anything (relating to dating), I was just clarifying that you meant 'in dating'. Your hobbies…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 01:54 PM
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She's very cute and she can use that to her advantage but do you think if she was a guy in the same situation that she would even have any dating success? There are many stories of men who are homeless/in half-way houses etc finding love. So yes, I think it's entirely possible someone could still have dating success. I'm just not really sure I get what is bothering you - just the fact there is no guarantee? The best anyone can do is improve their chances and hope. If you're looking for self-impr…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 01:32 PM
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Girls aren't attracted to 'self improvement'. Well, some might be. But people are attracted, in general, to a range of things. 'Self-improvement' is about the person doing it boosting their self esteem, social skills, abilities etc. I feel like you're potentially misunderstanding 'reddit's logic'. Self-improvement gets people out of ruts, and the results of self-improvement (having better social skills, being healthier, having interests and hobbies) all increase the chances of finding a partner.…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 01:12 PM
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Who says you have to follow these rules? Most couples I know definitely have aspects where they did not follow the dating 'rules' as they exist in media etc. Do you think that no relationships have any time when the man is emotionally vulnerable? Or that there's no sexual attraction in those situations (there's no such thing as 'attraction points')? I know plenty of people who do not question their partner's manhood or sexuality for showing emotion or vulnerability. Meet better people.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/21 12:18 AM
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I doubt there is consensus. Since 'the wall' doesn't exist it's hard to pin down.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/21 04:53 PM
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The process of forgiving yourself and moving on is just a long one. The important thing is that you have changed and you have no intention of repeating those actions. I think you shouldn't hide it from any future partner, but you also don't need to immediately disclose it. People do dumb shit sometimes, it's important to learn from it. But it's not a ball and chain, it happened, it's over. You've learned.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/21 01:37 PM
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I feel like there's a difference between interested and 'judging if they're a good partner'. The survey I think you're talking about, it's one of the most well known, comes specifically from a Christian conservative think-tank and it's outcomes aren't as clear cut as it sounds. I can't for the life of me remember it's name, but I so know that it uses 'lifetime sexual partners' rather than 'premarital'. Which means if someone got married as a virgin, gets divorced, has 3 more partners before marr…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/21 10:45 AM
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Good God the person you think I want to date because 'evolution' says so is absolutely the person I would not want to date at all. In terms of physique you, as you are now, are way more my speed. Your personality seems obsessive and determined to understand how women 'are' in some universal sense, which to be fair is off putting. As I've said here before: Don't personalise broad data. Sure, let's say that there is some 'evolutionary' drive for women to like muscles. But 1. That's not going to ap…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/21 08:14 PM
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I am a straight woman, I'll pass on the muscles thanks. I prefer toothpick skinny or bear chub, muscle implies a lifestyle that I'm not interested in. Why bother? People have mentioned it in other comments, but to be clear, even if evolutionary biology is correct that muscles are generally seen as attractive. This is not a 'law' like physics, it's a trend or a majority. It does not mean that men must have muscles to be attractive or that women are only into such things. It's not a damning nail i…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/21 04:23 PM
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You're not lacking. Men aren't inferior. Striving toward equality means that ideally in the future there won't be measurable gender gaps in any direction. We aren't there yet, but hopefully one day. The key thing is not to look at general statistics and draw personal conclusions. That's not how the world works for anything.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/21 01:36 AM
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You know how bad you felt doing all of those things, and you'd been doing better since you'd given it up and got a therapist, friends, entered healthy men's groups and had a good relationship with your parents. Now, TRP might be saying 'you only feel bad because society says it's 'bad'', but the fact is, doing what it advocates still makes you feel bad. It makes pretty much everyone who follows it feel bad eventually. So, realistically, what is more likely: Option A: TRP and associated things do…
/r/ExRedPill09/04/21 02:57 PM
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I'm a 'woke woman' and a feminist and ummm... no? I'm not 'like that' (what 'that' are we even talking about?) I agree that sex should not be the be all and end all of anyone's life, it's just setting yourself up for misery really. I don't really enjoy the idea of calling anyone low or high 'quality' though. Holding yourself accountable, learning from mistakes, understanding when you genuinely have been a victim of something and when you have not, these are all good things that people of any gen…
/r/ExRedPill09/04/21 08:34 AM
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Depends, are you still in the ideology? This is EX red pill, so if you're here to sing red pills praises, yeah, that's not appropriate here.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/21 12:31 PM
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So, to clarify. You don't like it when people make broad statements about your gender? It's wrong and it doesn't at all capture male nature, nor does it help men and women have good interactions. But you're perfectly on board with doing that to women. Think on that for a bit. ​ For what it's worth, I don't think men are only after sex. Although I don't think your assessment of who commits rape or other forms of sexual assault is necessarily correct, I do think that men are much more nuanced and …
/r/ExRedPill08/04/21 11:53 AM
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What do you mean by 'seduction'? I don't think I was ever 'seduced' by my partner. At least not in any way that would be classed as 'seduction'. You're suggesting that it's 'not enough' for a women to be close with their partner and be cared for/care for them in return. Which like... no? A lot of the time that's all anyone wants in a relationship regardless of gender. I have no idea about the majority of relationships, but of all the ones I know, no. The man is not the main provider. It's genera…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 10:21 PM
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Saying that 'women' as a group are childlike is, in fact, demeaning to women. Whether you intend it to be or not. I think your viewpoint is something that is almost definitely doing more harm to your prospective dating life than pretty much anything else. Women aren't a different species or group to men, and they certainly don't all (or even the majority of grown up women) have a 'childlike essence'. I'm not offended, per se. I'm not personally wounded by what you're saying. It's just bafflingly…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 08:09 PM
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I mean, this is a whole lot of rubbish about what 'women' are like. As though women are one hive-mind monolith. You explaining what you meant hasn't really done you any favours. You got any evidence to back up these claims? Also, what 'hard truths' are you planning to tell 'women' (what, all women? everywhere?) that will 'improve' them? Do you have any evidence that advertisements are more important to women in general than to men? That they're more easily swayed by inferior products. Sorry mate…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 06:38 PM
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So, it seems unlikely that it's 'only 1 in 10 will ever have a relationship'. In a study done by Toronto’s Redpath Centre, just 32.1 percent of people with autism had had a partner and only 9 percent were married. But as far as I can tell (having been unable to find the study itself) it seems like they don't differentiate within that statistic between levels of ability within autism. Given that it is suspected you have high functioning autism and not something you were diagnosed with as a toddle…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 05:26 PM
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But women can't think for themselves really. They are very social creatures and easily mislead. I'm sorry, what? Dude.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 09:05 AM
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Notice how the things that made you happy were hobbies and the things that brought you down were looks? Hobbies can still build you up regardless of your features. You can still enjoy all those things and attract others (platonically and/or romantically) through your interests and personality. Being physically handsome helps in dating, but it's very much not the only thing that matters nor is it necessarily a barrier to entry. Additionally, I'd maybe suggest looking into body dysmorphia as your …
/r/ExRedPill07/04/21 09:00 AM
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There is definitely a middle between approaching women who are randomly going about their day and having to meet people clubbing. I gave alternatives in my original reply.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/21 11:44 PM
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I suspect that exredpillers 'reconcile' these ideas by acknowledging that they're untrue. There is nothing to reconcile, these observations never encapsulate a significant enough portion of women to make them worth considering as a 'truth'. The same way I don't need to reconcile that the sky is orange. Because, you know what, sometimes it is, but the majority of time it isn't. We don't need to reconcile an idea to our world views if that idea is not the case the majority of the time.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/21 02:54 PM
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It's about context. In the grocery store, at the gym etc. Not a good idea, those aren't social contexts for anyone. No one goes grocery shopping to meet new people. Just on the street is pretty much the same, there isn't a social context there for people who don't know each other. Somewhere that there is a social context - the obvious are bars and clubs, but other social group places like food courts, public parks (assuming they are having a picnic or similar, not like, on a run) are also more a…
/r/ExRedPill05/04/21 08:55 AM
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As always my first thought is are you seeking professional help? Because this sounds much more like some form of anxiety or similar, and there are definitely techniques that you can use to manage unrealistic expectations for yourself. You absolutely can be in a relationship with 'nothing to offer', or at the very least lifting isn't something I'd personally consider something to offer. You offer your time, opinions, thoughts etc. You talk about physical things in the post, and whilst those can h…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 05:05 PM
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Most studies show that currently everyone from Milliennials down is having less sex, there's no evidence that men are having less whilst women aren't. Things like hypergamy are very specific and rely on a culture we no longer live in. Alpha/beta isn't real in the animals the terms came from, let alone humans. Consider that you are worried precisely because you don't seem to be having the 'typical' experience. It's not use comparing, but if your experiences seem to show RP is true, how does that …
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 03:47 PM
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I do think the ideas you have expressed are wrong and a bit sexist. I don't think all your ideas are, but many of the ones you have expressed here, yeah. I think they're wrong and sexist. Me disagreeing with you is not, in and of itself, rude. Your examples show where I could have been less blunt in my wording, so I'll take more note and try to avoid that. Phrasing often shows how people view the world, so by framing women as 'females offering vagina' that implies ideas about women which aren't …
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 05:59 PM
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When have I said you are evil? I definitely don't think that. I especially don't think you're bad for being curious about sex and dating. What is it that I am saying that makes it seem like I am saying those things? I'll see if I can explain them or of I should change my language so it feels less hostile to you.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 05:36 PM
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Assuming I've had many hook ups is trolling and hostile. To actually answer your points. Meeting women and approaching them and immediately asking for sex are not the same thing. Similarly approaching people is often very context specific, someone doing their shopping or similar is not a good context for approaching someone for sex or even really to strike up a friendship.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 05:28 PM
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I have never claimed women make no mistakes. I was simply pointing out that you were the one who started swearing at me. Me disagreeing with you is not hostility. Please explain how I have shamed you?
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 05:27 PM
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Ok, I'm beginning to think you must be trolling.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 05:19 PM
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I certainly wasn't swearing at you or calling you names? What do you consider being openly hostile?
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 05:17 PM
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No
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 04:49 PM
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It is absolutely an established fact. 'Again' as in 'you are being told this again' doesn't have to mean I was the original person to say it. This response might be another one of the reasons you're struggling to meet people tbh. I've been nothing but polite to you, even if we are in disagreement, and your response is this? Dude.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 04:37 PM
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Covid won't last forever. Also there's a big difference between 'meet people in person' and 'cold approach'. You can meet people and have interactions with them without starting off by asking them out.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 01:56 PM
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Alright. And how exactly does meeting them imply that all women are off having sex with alphas or that these men are getting 'all' of the sex (again, not a finite resource) 'all' of the time. Some men have sex more often than others. That isn't the damning, world condemning, 'women all have sex with alphas' statement you perceive it at. Also, tbh, describing it as 'this female is offering me some vagina' is probably one of the big differences between you and the people having sex.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 09:43 AM
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I don't know? Who are the guys getting all the sex? I've never met them. I've met guys who get... Some sex. More sex than some other guys, but all of it and all the time? Nah. I'm sorry you've been treated badly, that sucks. I've been treated awfully by men though, and I'm not out assuming things about the entire gender because I met a load of assholes. It's hard to meet women when you go around assuming they all 'hook up with alphas'. Thinking negatively about women and assuming they're all the…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/21 12:29 AM
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I go back to my previous comment to the OP, clearly we have very different understandings of what feminism is.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/21 09:50 PM
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You and I have very different definitions of feminism, apparently.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/21 07:57 PM
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You get that feminism has existed for like, over a hundred years right?
/r/ExRedPill30/03/21 07:57 PM
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In my case, no, not at all. The men I was/am attracted to saw me as their intellectual equal and I saw/see them as such. Also, as an extrovert and general 'odd jobs' sort of human I have much more practical knowledge in terms of social settings, taxes, various bits of DIY work when compared to my (male) partner. So, in my case this is very much not true. And I have to say based on the relationships I've seen my friends in, also no.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/21 06:54 PM
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I'm in my late 20s and a woman, and most women whose lives I have observed, spoken with, ... lived myself. Disagree with your assessment. Either way, there's no need for a 'pill' in this. There is no deep truth to be uncovered other than 'humans are messy and varied'.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 01:20 PM
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I'm not even sure that's possible to know. Most women where? It depends on place, culture, background etc. And even then there will be a spectrum. Women are just people. Men are just people. There's no hard or fast rule for anyone neither is there a 'nature' inherent based on sex chromosomes. You had a rule, I challenged it, you changed the rule. It's not really a rule then is it? Everything is always more nuanced than any 'pill' mindset allows for.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 01:04 PM
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You cannot want men to act safe and accommodating and then want them to be aggressive and domineering Plenty of women don't want them to be aggressive and domineering. You've been friends with all types of women but you've literally never met a woman who didn't want an aggressive and domineering man?? You should meet some of my friends, some of them don't even want men. Women cannot be bother vulnerable and frightened and strong and independent at the same time. Yes, they can. Same way men can b…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 11:28 AM
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As a woman in a relationship with an introverted man who isn't particularly 'dominant' (what, exactly, does that mean?) and who is only confident on certain things. Do I just fall on the 'less' end of the spectrum. If everyone agrees what women want, but there's a spectrum where women can not want those things, surely there isn't an agreement on what women want?
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 11:18 AM
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Yeah, this post makes you sound like someone women would want to be around. /s Stop catastrophising and stop acting as though all women are the same. Then we can have a conversation about ways the situation may not be hopeless. If you can't stop doing the above things/refuse to get help to stop, then yes, it is hopeless but it's no one's fault but your own.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 12:23 PM
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Alimony is decided based on the higher earner and various other things, the laws around it are not gendered. Child support laws also are not gendered. Generally women end up getting these things because they are financially worse off following a divorce and are usually the ones who are the main parent for any children. The majority of divorces are settled amicably out of court, the same is true for child care. Some divorces are nasty, but from what I've ever seen/heard there's about a 50/50 spli…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 09:41 PM
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I mean, hiding it like it never happened is not always smart. But not wanting to be associated with it and removing things he said previously supporting it seems like a good thing to me.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 08:01 PM
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If all you want is to have sex, what difference does it make if the girl is fat? Like, everything you've said is kind of gross and mostly incorrect. But even if everything you said is true, if literally the only thing you want is to put your dick in 'coochie' surely any willing coohie would do? But no. You're starving, in agony, it's awful - but also no, you don't want that food.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 07:56 PM
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What do you mean 'exposed'?
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 07:25 PM
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I'm sure he knows what he's talking about. But so do the people who disagree with him. This is mostly philosophy, there is no definite answer or truth here. At least not that anyone currently knows or can verify.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 12:48 PM
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There are many, many books. Robert Sapolsky is just one of many people who has talked about this. His ideas are not necessarily more correct than any of the other writers on this topic.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 11:24 AM
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Well you heard wrong. There is absolutely no definitive answer and it's been the subject of debate for a very, very long time. Science tends not to talk about determinism Vs free will. It's more of a philosophy thing. There is no evidence either way, and not really any way to gain evidence. Go read up on/listen to a range of arguments around determinism and free will. See which one you're most convinced by. Neither is 'true' - we just don't know - so it's all about which one you find has the str…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 07:34 AM
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No, it's an argument, it's a position held by people who agree with determinism. It's not 'true'. We have absolutely no proof either way. Some people with have similarly good arguments for the concept of free will and will be able to defend it well.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 07:02 AM
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So, in the sense that everything a person does is just a consequence of something that has come before it, and those things are all related to biology, environment, and culture. You are correct. But the concept of 'can't choose otherwise' is sort of a misnomer. It's not biologically, environmentally, or culturally 'hardwired' into people to cheat, or steal, or be good at maths, or care about people etc. If things are the outcome of culture and environment, then it stands to reason that if those …
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 10:03 PM
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That's not how determinism works.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 09:03 PM
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I mean.. ok. But we can't prove humans do or do not have free will. It's been a debate in philosophy for basically millennia. But even if humans don't have free will that doesn't impact our ability to change or to make decisions. Most forms of determinism don't work like that.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 08:21 PM
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Where tf are you meeting these people? They sound awful. If you are self harming please see a professional, that's beyond reddit's paygrade.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 08:09 PM
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"Why aren't there any nice guys" -> rejects guys who actually want to be nice and not do degenerate shit like choking and spanking and fucking hard because "it's haaaawt" -> "you're too nice, I want something exciting!" -> goes for abusive guys because "soo haawt" -> guy is abusive -> "where are all the good men?" -> rinse and repeat. Of the three friends I've had who have had horrible, toxic relationships. No, it hasn't gone like that at all. The thing with most abusive relationships is that th…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 11:27 AM
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We don't live in a 'new feminist world'. We live in a world with feminism in it, but it's not like we're in some feminist utopia and there still happen to exist strict gender roles and double standards. We don't live in a feminist society.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/21 11:06 AM
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There isn't a difference. Black people are at risk from having people harm them just because of who they are. Women are at risk of having people harm them just because of who they are. Black women get the worst of both worlds.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 07:56 PM
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'Act' like 'display through your actions' not like 'pretend'.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/21 07:20 AM
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Idk man, I know loads of women like that - where have you tried looking? You generally being angry about it all probably puts people off tbh.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/21 07:26 AM
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Depends what they're seeking a partner for I imagine. I disagree with rating attractiveness on a number scale, but even if I accept that - there's more to a person than their (almost arbitrarily) assigned hotness number. So between a '6' and a '10'... Who knows. Maybe the 10 is friendly but has different political views which make them incompatible. Maybe the 6 makes her laugh and listens to her problems. Maybe the 10 is actually an amazing guy and super into her and they agree on all life's big…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/21 12:32 PM
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I have one person I lean on who does not provide for me materially (we split everything 50/50). I have no interest in anyone else for genetic or 'material' provision. I wanted his babies before he was earning. I don't know what 'spinning plates' is, but based on what on I think it is - I don't have online dating, I don't chat to other men. See above. I wasn't aware those could be converted? But also, those categories aren't real.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 11:47 PM
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Your view is heavily governed by where you live. So 'women' isn't really true, outside of your area it's different. That being said, there is something to be said for men being a potential threat. And a man who is clear he is not a threat is definitely more likely to be successful.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 09:38 PM
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Going back to the 50s model would be awful. We look back with rose tinted glasses, but people then had pretty much all the problems we do now (just with less social media). People still cheated, were depressed, people still felt trapped in the roles they were forced into. No thanks! Relationships should be mutual and supportive. How individuals sort their own relationships is their business, as long as both people agree on how they're doing things it's fine.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 01:49 PM
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So firstly, you're almost definitely not 'deformed' unless you have a specific medical deformity. Secondly, women as a group don't hate you. You see yourself as 'deformed' and you are straight and have decided these things are why you are unsuccessful with women. This is false. Even if you are actually deformed (which, again, I doubt) and you are actually straight, these are not explanatory statements. It would be like me saying something like: I've never gotten into a choir I auditioned for. I …
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 07:21 AM
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It's definitely not ok for them to have done that, it was cruel and they are assholes. It was not 'ok'. Mostly though I have to question: Why do you call yourself subhuman? Don't identify with that, you're not subhuman. You're a person and you don't deserve to be treated badly. Why on earth would women dislike you for 'being straight'??
/r/ExRedPill10/03/21 10:53 PM
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Could you provide some examples to support your point first?
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 03:29 PM
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I wasn't making an argument, I was just saying that the people in charge disagree. I mean, if you did that no one could stop you. And many of the responses you give, assuming you're not trying to give it from the point of view from someone with schizophrenia could be insightful and helpful. There is something useful in talking to people who have literally experienced the same things, for sure. And there are posts here sometimes that those of us who have not experienced actually being red pilled …
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 01:32 PM
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The people who helped create this sub feel differently about who should be allowed to talk here. I can't find your post, I can only find one from a while ago.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 12:20 PM
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I don't ask my friend's feelings before I sleep with someone (or, I guess, I wouldn't, if I were in that situation). Unless I have strong reason to believe that they would be upset e.g. we have already had some form of conversation about it. It sounds like no one in this scenario did anything wrong. Girls don't like any one specific thing. Not a hivemind or a monolith. I prefer it when people smile at me.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 12:12 PM
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'Prove you've read the whole post'. Dude. Bonjour. But also, I shouldn't have to prove anything to you. I don't think most of the people who reply here, at least not the regulars, are here to punish or blame people for these ideas. Many of the men have been red pilled and understand where the posters are coming from, many of the women have at least some conception of feeling unheard and want to help these men find ways of expressing themselves that don't come with the harmful ideas seen in the r…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 12:06 PM
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I mean... is it even cheating? Nothing in this story says the dude who got heartbroken ever told the woman he was friends with that he liked her. 'Girl bangs a dude and doesn't tell her friend about it first' isn't exactly 'defence' of a position. They weren't dating, at least not according to this story. You even say the dude should have made a move - but he didn't. We have no way of knowing, based on this random story, how the girl would have responded if he had expressed his feelings. Basical…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 11:56 AM
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I feel like we've had this conversation before, possibly more than once. There is a difference between insecurity and vulnerability. A lot of it depends on how those things are expressed, plenty of girls also get dumped for being insecure. There IS a societal double standard about men expressing emotions and there are groups that are trying to make things better in that regard (not trp, but others). Getting mad that women don't face the same repercussions isn't helping you or the situation. It s…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 10:02 AM
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I'm not entirely sure I understand your main point, but to clear a few things up: - Women are not 'hypergamic by nature'. At least no more or less so than men. - The fact you know couples that have lots of children and seem very into each other despite being very poor actually goes against the idea that hypergamy is something that is super wide-spread or something women just 'do'.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 09:43 AM
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"For all former red pillers to discuss their brainwashing and subsequent realization that they've been brainwashed." Essentially it's for people who were involved with the red pill in some way - often PUA but also MGTOW, incels, the 'manosphere' in general, who have realised that pretty much all of the ideas that come from those areas are toxic and can cause (or, sadly, already have caused) damage to their mental health, social lives, emotional connections etc. It's also a place where people who…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/21 10:10 PM
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Well, there's a fun thing for people - I think that Alan is quite physically attractive, but I guess looks are a super subjective thing! (Not sure you needed to have that said to you, but to anyone reading. Different people like different things!)
/r/ExRedPill07/03/21 12:26 AM
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Weird one, but I suggest CinemaTherapy on youtube. Two men, both with wives and children, one of whom is quite stereotypically 'handsome' who cries at pretty much everything!
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 09:12 PM
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What the fuck are 'man points'?
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 04:49 PM
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I agree
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 02:00 PM
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If a girl rejects a dude and then says something explicitly commenting on his manhood then she is contributing to patriarchy. Which again is all fine Personally I'd say that is not fine.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 10:29 AM
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Those are difficult family dynamics, I'm sorry about that. Go you for not following their patterns. I would say that the marriages in your family all seem to be ones of convenience/avoiding taboo (children out of wedlock etc). I have lots of friends who had children out of wedlock and did not marry the other parent, and things were much healthier because of it. Some of them went on to get married to other partners later, and their relationships are all fine - not like the ones on TV or like the …
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 10:00 AM
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As a person of faith I feel like you should know that as long as you truly repent, which it seems like you are, then God forgives. In terms of people, it's much harder, but as long as you try to be better now then what has passed has passed. As a side note, the actual church of Satan has way better morals than the red pill imo. But if you view trp as not of God/sinful I wouldn't disagree with that assessment.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/21 06:04 PM
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Predominantly through his work on Technocisation. Did he write particularly on the philosophy of his political views? If not then I consider them incidental to his work. Philosophy need not be tied to individuals and is best taken on an idea basis as it allows for taking the best possible form of the argument. Heidegger was apparently a fascist and he was an intellectual. There is no reason to think his form of fascism was any different from a non-intellectual who was a fascist.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 07:16 AM
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No, from a philosophical stand point very important.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 07:09 AM
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We have very different experiences, but I would not say I am 'inexperienced'. How many of your hundreds of relationships have lasted as long as my old one, let alone my current? Wouldn't you say in terms of long term coupling I likely have more experience than you?
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 07:09 AM
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So I can know even more how they're incompatible? One of them is literally about making it so that everyone is in charge of themselves and their own means, with needs met by the state, and the other has 'having a dictator' and working for the glory of the nation. For someone who doesn't 'want' to be a fascist your responses are suddenly a lot more unfriendly after the gap in interactions.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 07:08 AM
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You literally asked me what I thought they would think. I said multiple times that I don't actually know but you asked again. You love making bad faith interactions ?
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 07:04 AM
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Honestly I think that people like that are pretty rare and you'd probably have a decent idea if you did meet someone like that. People cheat fairly regularly, but to that level of not caring, I think it's relatively unusual.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 04:25 PM
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So don't watch them? There are shitty people in the world.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 02:16 PM
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Firstly, I didn't say the quote you've replied with?? Secondly: Plenty of women 'date down' (I hate that phrase). Although more accurately most people date generally within their own social spheres, so more like 'dating across'. Why does anyone crush on celebrities, this isn't a women only thing. Why do men crush on 'top tier status' women? I don't know. Some people really care, many people don't. I didn't say there weren't people who dated for money etc. I just said it wasn't a measurable pheno…
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 01:30 PM
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Hypergamy isn't real, it's not a measurable phenomenon in our society. What traditional values would you say have gone? No one caring unless the majority cares applies to a lot more than just leftist opinions. It's also interesting because that's not at all how I've seen the 'pick me' phrase used.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 01:08 PM
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You make it seem like it would be better if the world was like it was in 1950, which I feel is an incorrect assumption. What's wrong with 'the average 19 year old'? It's a little contradictory to say 'All BLM and she/her shit' and then follow it up with 'it's totally respectable to have those opinions, it's just herd mentality'. Like... it doesn't sound like you respect those opinions at all. Also, there are a lot of people against BLM and she/her - it's probably a roughly equal split. Can it be…
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 12:41 PM
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I mean... there is a whole lot of genetics out there in the world. But the market doesn't really make a 'choice' without there being conscious decision making, and as you've said in other places, you don't think this is a conscious choice.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 10:55 PM
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So there are two avenues to take here. Either, it's so not a conscious decision that it does not matter. Society has run for thousands of years without needing to do anything about it and it's not something we can change. So it's irrelevant and should be ignored. Or, each person is un/subconsciously making decisions based on something none of us are aware of but which still allows for a clear range of different relationship styles and couplings, and therefore is an unconscious decision that does…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 10:54 PM
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They would probably define it as the paragraph I gave above. They would probably not call themselves fascists, if that's what you're asking.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 10:51 PM
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Those two aren't really very compatible.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 10:50 PM
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Me, personally? I've had two. First one lasted 3 years, current one is at almost 7.5 years and going strong.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 10:49 PM
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There is no genetic market... you do know that?
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:26 PM
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Fascism is not the only, or indeed even the best, alternative to capitalism.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:26 PM
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Tf is an 'internal' definition? Or an 'intellectual fascist'? Based on what I think you're asking - people who hold those beliefs would say that they just recognise the natural hierarchies and behaviours of people and that their group has been unfairly treated, so now it's time to band together to make sure their group or nation remains pure - and that the ideals of the group supersede individual rights and freedoms because that is the greater good.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:25 PM
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Well, you talk a lot about lived experience. In my lived experience I don't know anyone who has married for money. You want certain genes but not others, that doesn't extend to the whole of society or culture agreeing with you on that. If your definition of 'genetic superiority' is 'people picking the genetics they are most attracted to' then... ok. But that's not hypergamy. And it's going to vary wildly between people so much so that it's sort of irrelevant.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:19 PM
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Fascism is a political stance (generally considered to be far-right) of authoritarian ultra-nationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy. That's just what fascism is. To the left, fascism is bad because it involves labeling people as 'undesirable' and then removing them from society. Like... that's literally what happened in Nazi Germany... the fascist state. The left and many, many people on the right d…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:17 PM
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As it is not possible to accurately measure 'superior genetics' then I have to query how culture could enforce that. Similarly with getting with people/marrying only for money, that just doesn't happen on a large enough scale for it to be worth considering as a phenomenon plaguing society.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:08 PM
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'How quaint' is a fantastic reply.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:04 PM
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None of that is true.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 08:03 PM
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I didn't say anything about academic literature. I just said that it doesn't exist outside of certain situations - it is not inherent to women.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 07:58 PM
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Hypergamy is wrong as in it isn't real. It does not exist outside of some very specific scenarios for which the term was created. It's not inherent or pervasive. So no, feminists aren't going to give a single f about something that's not real. There are core tenets of feminism, there is mainstream feminism. It's not as nebulous as you seem to suggest.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 06:31 PM
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You misunderstand feminism. Which is very impressive considering you claim to have been a feminist. Well, hypergamy is wrong so facism is wrong. There, solved it.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 05:23 PM
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What 'cause' is this that I'm not helping? I'm just explaining free speech laws. You have yet to be banned here, so your hopes are coming to fruition. Ok... but no one has called you a nazi, and certainly I haven't. That's not even close to socialism, but ok. I understand how the concept of hypergamy has led you to that point. I don't understand quite how facism would stop hypergamy though? Also, hypergamy isn't real - at least not in a broad social context. Feminists don't want to kill incels, …
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 04:54 PM
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Google is a private company, it also is not bound by freedom of speech laws etc. Clearly your 'simple explanation' was lacking, if you cannot explain it in another way then that suggests you don't have a firm grasp of the ideas. What other things appeal to you about facism? It's a simple question.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 03:55 PM
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Censorship and the removal of freedom of speech is really a concept that only applies to governments - your friends not talking to you because you start sharing dangerous and incorrect ideas isn't censorship. If someone says 'I love kicking puppies' and other people stop being friends with them based on that, it's not censorship. If you feel invited in a group of people who do like kicking puppies, sure you feel like you belong but that's a pretty big cost to your own morality. You haven't reall…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 12:51 PM
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I'm curious, have most of the relationships in your formative years (e.g. your parents, aunts, uncles etc) broken up? The simple answer is love can be very real, but contrary to the famous song - love is not all you need. There are so many aspects to a relationship, and any one of those can fail and cause a relationship to end. This doesn't mean love isn't real, and a relationship failing doesn't mean there was no love in it. Similarly, there are likely many people in your generation (whichever …
/r/ExRedPill25/02/21 06:32 PM
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You need to stop, but I know that is something that is easier said than done. I recommend finding other YouTubers who talk more kindly about people and don't reinforce these ideas. I'd recommend Hannah Witton and Melanie Murphy, then there are a range that branch off from there whose names I can't remember right now.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 11:16 AM
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean about sex and 'moral' values? What about sex is inhumane or immoral? Honestly, someone who views sex as a 'for one other person' and may have a low libido etc, getting involved in churches is likely to get you to meet women with a similar view to you (especially around disgust at various aspects of sex). Although obviously I do not recommend this unless you are also religious. In general... no idea. I am a woman who made it very clear at the start of my re…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/21 10:10 PM
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I don't want to believe what I see on social media reflects real life. I have good news.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/21 09:27 PM
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Many asexual people can and do have sexual urges. But I think the point you're getting at is that you are not interested in casual sex? In which case... Fair enough. That's not that unusual. It may be that you need to change where you are looking. It's really not that uncommon to be looking for monogamy and long term serious partnerships rather than sleeping around. You may benefit from some therapy around your disgust at the sex other people are into - consenting adults can do whatever they wan…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/21 09:12 PM
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I think even your generalisations are incorrect. So I'm gonna say no on pretty much all of the manosphere ideas ('manosphere' also feels cringe to me as a word). There are ways to get to the good bits that don't require generalising about half the population.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/21 11:27 PM
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Hypergamy - false. 80/20 - false. Women being solipsistic - hilarious and false. Any concept that says women are incapable of unconditional love - false. One of the reasons I say there's no truth to it has been proven to me through experiences. Puts us in a bit of a pickle doesn't it.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/21 07:22 AM
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I'm also quite intelligent and I have a vastly different reading of human behaviour. A lot of how people act is of course based on their environment and culture, so the chances are the women in my social circles may act completely differently from the ones in yours. Broad statements about human behaviour are rarely useful and regularly mean people avoid interacting on an appropriate person-to-person basis. Also if you think the ideas and explanations of human behaviour set out by the red pill ar…
/r/ExRedPill15/02/21 03:27 PM
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You keep asking this and I am constantly like... if you can post on reddit you're no way near the point that your mental disability would prevent you from having any friends at all. You are able to describe your situation and respond to people, your spelling and grammar are fine etc. I'm highly, highly sceptical of any medical professional who has said you can 'never' have friends etc.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/21 09:48 PM
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Acting stupid seems like a silly thing to do. Be yourself and act however feels most natural, as long as you're not harming anyone then being yourself is pretty much always the healthiest and most sustainable way to live.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/21 07:29 AM
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Think JD from Heather's and Jesse from Gilmore Girls. They're much more likely to be loners/social outcasts who get into fights but are either ~damaged~ (JD is someone I would actively NOT like in real life) or are secretly really sweet. Not chads in a social sense and often they're usually the ones being bullied rather than doing the bullying.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 06:38 PM
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Then we have very different ideas about what the Bad Boy is. Even in media where I legitimately am attracted to the 'bad boy'. He isn't what you're describing.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 06:03 PM
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Erotic fantasy is just that, fantasy. It has no particular relationship to what most people want in the real world. Part of the point of fiction is to explore ideas or scenarios that a person may not (usually actively would not) like to experience in real life. What features make someone a 'bad boy' in your mind? It's kind of a nebulous term. Could you expand on it? Other than being a criminal. I don't think I've ever known anyone who was like 'ooh he's a drug dealer/criminal and that is the mai…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 05:46 PM
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I don't think I've been in any anti-red pill space that says there's no benefits in the dating world for more attractive people. The main point is that it's not the only factor, it's a slice of the pie chart but not one that is overwhelmingly large. I have friends who I think are objectively very standardly attractive, work high paying jobs, live in the city - not dated for years because they're busy, can't find the right girl etc. They are definitely having trouble dating. It is definitely too …
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 11:11 AM
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I think all the asking out is a bit much. It'd be nice if it were just at least equal. Men shouldn't do all the asking out, neither should women. I also don't need a guy to pay for a first date. That can be done with unless the guy in question really wants to.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/21 08:28 PM
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I mean, I think Fifty Shades is awful and always have... So do the women in my friendship group. So like? Yeah. Christian Grey is awful and is a terrible 'love' interest and it is abuse. Again, it's more the fantasy of being completely adored by an attractive rich person way out of your league when you are nothing special. Not a gendered fantasy, but one 50 Shades is emblematic of. Even though 50 Shades itself is terrible. Also... Yes. Fiction is for letting people explore ideas and scenarios pe…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/21 08:18 PM
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There are lots of things that talk about the phenomenon of Christian Grey. Very little of it is that he's a 'bad boy'. Mostly it plays into the fantasy of being absolutely normal and average and having someone (often very attractive) fall madly in love with you. That's a pretty standard fantasy for lots of people regardless of gender. Fifty Shades was also a pretty open acception of women liking sexy things, it could be read and discussed in public. That was basically unheard of before (erotic l…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/21 05:44 PM
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This isn't 'debate' red pill. It's for people who have gotten out who want to talk about their negative experiences and for people who have realised it is toxic and want help and support in the process of leaving. That doesn't seem to be you, so there's little that conversation would do to help you see eye to eye with people who are here. It 'works' for you. Ok. I'd probably suggest that lots of what you've said indicates a fairly unhealthy healthy world view, but debating that isn't going to ch…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/21 11:46 AM
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I think there was a really big conversation about this sort of thing on r/MensLib recently, so you might find it helpful to go read through that and/or chat to people there. Personally I consider releasing your emotions and getting support is a great thing to 'get out' of expressing your emotions. Certainly it's better than storing it inside or expressing it in ways that could harm yourself or others. I do agree that generally society doesn't like 'out of control' emotions - for men and women. B…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 04:49 PM
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I'll be honest I do blame feminism as well because a lot of the hateful rhetoric does have an effect. Yeah, no shit you blame feminism. That is quite apparent. A lot of the hateful rhetoric is not inherent to feminism though. You say I grew up with a Flawed idea of masculinity yet anytime I try out a different model it lets me getting bullied by either men or women. I didn't say you were the only one with a flawed idea of masculinity. Society as a whole has a flawed idea of masculinity, that's w…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 02:33 PM
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It's also not 'plenty' as OP originally stated. Idk what Beauvoir was going for but I don't agree with her (especially without context). Thank you for the suggestion of where OP got this idea, I think it would be an incredibly fringe idea if it still exists at all in modern feminism.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 12:06 PM
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That housework is worthless and that the only way to achieve success in life is by having a career away from home. That's not true. Feminism supports women having free choice to choose to live their lives in the way they want to and follow the path of what each individual feels success is for her. I have several friends who are feminists who are stay at home mothers by choice, and good for them. Feminists do not consider housework 'worthless' they just think that men and women are equally capabl…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 12:42 AM
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No thanks.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 11:59 PM
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It's more about life stages than the actual gap. The reason 19 and 28 is weird is because there's so much personal and emotional development that happens in that time - the brain literally isn't finished developing until someone is around 25. But between 33 and 41, whilst there is a significant amount of potential experience, there is less actual biological development left to happen and generally both people will have completed most of the 'expected' life stages - they're more likely to be alig…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 08:17 PM
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You could argue that it's because we have a flawed idea of manhood and giving human nature of course every single man is going to be different. Yes. I had this very flawed idea when I was 14 that I would max out literally every single thing about myself before I would attempt to date and that led to years of not dating. Yes, that is a flawed idea. It wasn't until I told myself I actually wanted to do stuff I personally enjoyed instead of trying to fit a mold is when I started to get at least a l…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:57 PM
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There are plenty of places to not absorb that material. It's not an inevitability.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:22 PM
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There is pushback against women's bias - there are plenty of people calling out women who display shitty behaviour. There are especially movements working against negative views of specifically black men. Also for the love of all that is holy, stop expecting a perfect society and then ranting when you don't find one. How about trying to find useful and healthy ways to actually look into ways to help change it.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 04:09 PM
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I mean, clearly they do. I feel like we've had this discussion before - we're all raised in the same cultural soup, of course a not-insignificant number of women are going to be shitty.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 03:55 PM
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Sounds like she just thinks you're a nice person. That's a good sign and not an indication that she thinks you are 'weak'.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 08:52 AM
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Not really. I am only interested in dating people, so Tatum wouldn't be someone I would be interested in in general. Put both in a room and I'd rather speak to/spend time with Jack Black. Your point is all 'oh women will only settle!' and like, no. I'm not settling. I would actively prefer Jack Black. That's not settling, that's having a preference. I can acknowledge that Tatum fits all the societal criteria for being 'sexy', he is by most measures 'sexier'. But in pretty much ever regard, beari…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 08:49 AM
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I don't watch randomly linked YouTube videos. What's in it?
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 08:41 AM
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Nope. I never said it was ok, nothing in what I said was an excuse. I said it was bad. I said it was more common from men but I had no doubt women do it too. I said it was related to entitlement and poor treatment of people in 'subordinate' positions - like servers or other people at work. Nothing I said even remotely said that it was 'ok' for women to do it or that men should be held to a different standard/implying men were worse.
/r/ExRedPill05/02/21 08:38 AM
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Tatum is sexier. But I'd rather date Jack Black.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/21 10:44 PM
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Stay on the waiting lists. Are there techniques you learnt over summer that you can use now? Maybe ones you sort of let slide after the counselling ended?
/r/ExRedPill03/02/21 06:13 PM
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As a woman, no. Very few people talk about 'dating market value'. Some women disapprove of others wearing revealing clothing, usually because they accept the same narrative - that those women don't respect themselves and that they (the women judging) are better than the women who dress in revealing ways because they (the women judging) 'respect themselves'. Sensible adult women think 'she can wear whatever she wants because she's a grown woman who can make her own decisions'.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/21 01:09 PM
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Stealing this from u/Time2378 (cheers!) - the concept of the Alpha Male certainly is made up: https://nymag.com/article/2016/05/the-rise-of-the-alpha-beta-male.html It came from a study on wolves and the original researcher has since retracted his claims due to getting new evidence and noticing flaws in his original work (wolves were in captivity, which changed the dynamics - wild wolf packs function differently). Some people took the original study and applied it to humans, which was already a …
/r/ExRedPill03/02/21 11:18 AM
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See the reply below that's getting downvoted - that's what some men think and what's why they don't respect women who they consider to be 'showing too much'. It is in essence that some parts of society have this idea that a woman's body is one of the most valuable things about her, so her showing it off devaluing it. It's sort of a carry over from the idea that any skin showing must be sexual, and women who want sex, well society has a lot to say about them (women who want sex must not respect t…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/21 10:15 AM
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On the basis that 'Alpha Male' is a made up idea that doesn't apply to the animals it was initially intended for and definitely doesn't make sense for humans. I think anyone pushing 'strategies' around it is talking bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/21 10:12 PM
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First things first, have you/are you receiving treatment for your OCD? Because I have OCD as well, and I know - and I think you know too - that seeking reassurance is a compulsion and by asking and feeding it you're going to keep getting into that feedback loop. That being said, you sound like you're a fine person. Not a saint (who is) but not awful, not abominable by any means. I think you're internalising a lot of the ideas of feminism that are, on a population level, useful to think about, bu…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/21 10:09 PM
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Why is this a question you ask yourself often? There are many, many women who have a career and children. So of course they can do both. Can men have a career and children? Obviously yes. Presumably these men want and love their children as well as wanting a career. Why would it be possible for them and not their wives?
/r/ExRedPill31/01/21 10:49 AM
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Yup, it's gross, sorry it happens to you. The version shown in lots of media is the creepy weirdo dude, and oh boy does he exist in real life. Near constant. It's not always harmful, but it is weird and often a little uncomfortable. I'm sure women do it as well. The issue is the entitlement towards people who don't have a choice in the interaction (the people working), and whilst it certainly seems more common from men (and it's also portrayed as more common) that doesn't mean no women do it.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/21 10:21 AM
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No, the men being called simps are not belittling or denigrating other men through their actions. They aren't selling themselves as 'not like other men' - if they are, that should be a huge red flag. The women being called 'pick mes' that you mention seeing are being mocked by other women for taking more 'traditional' roles, which is rude and unfair. Sometimes the term 'pick me' is also used for women who sell themselves as 'not like other women' because they view other women as lesser. There se…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 11:56 AM
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Yes, I think men call each other simps as a means of hurting or belittling each other. Interesting, I've never seen that use of 'pick me'. If I were you I'd stay away from spaces that use it like that (or at all).
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 11:38 AM
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Generally speaking women call other women 'pick me' not for showing empathy for men, but for harming other women in order to get male attention. It's just another version of the 'I'm not like other girls' thing. But I'm not a man nor a red piller. And I do agree that trp seems to think men who are just... decent... have something wrong with them (simps, betas etc) and they often paint a picture of women being incapable of unconditional love or even empathy which is clearly nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 11:08 AM
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I've never wanted casual hook ups. It's a joke amongst my friends that the first thing my partner knew about me was that I wanted marriage and children and I was only interested in something serious - and that was before we'd even thought about dating! It's just a fact people pick up about me quite quickly. This was when we were 18. You don't want casual hook-ups, why would you assume you're in the minority? You didn't, I didn't, my partner didn't. Many people don't want just hook-ups, it's real…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 10:27 PM
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On Selective Service/Draft: Feminists opposed it during WW1. via Wikipedia Feminists opposing the draft in the 1970s. NOW opposes the draft and wants to include women. You can find the full statement here via NOW/Feminist Majority Swedish feminist party oppose reinstating the draft in Sweden: http://www.svd.se/guide-sa-tycker-partierna-om-forsvaret Feminists opposing war/the draft in general: a feminist book on taking an anti-war/non-violent stance as a part of feminism, abolishing war and the d…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 10:41 AM
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On Suicide/Mental Health The CALM (Campaign Against Living Miserably) Zone, a feminist charity that is leading a movement against male suicide in the UK Men, Feminism, & Mental Health via The Belle Jar https://www.facebook.com/everydayfeminism/posts/444116852334883 Swedish feminist party:"Men are overrepresented in suicide statistics, so we feel we can do something by starting up a men's shelter" Suicide by Mass Murder: Masculinity, Aggrieved Entitlement, and Rampage School Shootings via Taylor …
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 10:35 AM
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On Rape, Sexual Assault, and Intimate Partner Violence Feminists are responsible for changing the FBI's definition of rape to include male victims. Sub organization of NOW advocated for changing the definition of rape to include men in the 1970s, not successful in all states. via Wikipedia The largest organization for ending prison rape (Just Detention International) is headed by a feminist, Lovoisa Stannow. It's On Us - a feminist-supported (RAINN) campaign against sexual assault which supports…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/21 10:35 AM
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There are male feminists, so clearly there are men who have found space within feminism. The issues feminists discuss has changed massively since the 60s, because the issues that needed discussing have changed. What sort of real solutions are you talking about? Banning the draft? Feminists campaign for that. Male specific domestic violence shelters? Supported by feminism and some even run by feminists. Something addressing male suicide? Again, campaigns fronted by feminists about supporting male…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/21 04:23 PM
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And yet the discussion of waves as a broad means of understanding changes in feminist dialogue persist and are heuristically useful.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/21 02:14 PM
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I'd argue that MRAs aren't really a human rights group. There definitely are more than 2 genders.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:29 PM
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Feminism has moved on since the seventies, and is now taking into account these new range of human experience. There's even the term for these changes - 'waves' of feminism. There was no discussion of it in the seventies, but there is now. There are plenty of feminist/male feminist conversations about things like the draft (again, many of the actual campaigns against the draft in general and for at least making it gender equal came from feminists, not MRAs), discussion of circumcision is definit…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 05:16 PM
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Men can be feminists... it's not ironic if a man is a feminist. MRA is generally reactionary against feminism, so I'm not massively pro a 'middle ground' between the two. If one side wants genocide and one side doesn't, the middle ground becomes only killing a few people and that's still a bad place to be. Places like Menslib is way better than any MRA stuff.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 04:59 PM
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Feminism is generally of the opinion that the draft is a Bad Thing in general, but if it has to exist it should include both men and women. The reason women weren't previously included is because the men in charge decided women were weaker/did not want them. There have been quite a few campaigns from women to allow them to join the army/be in those dangerous situations. So for you example, men were forced into combat primarily by other men whilst women were excluded (whether they wanted to be or…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 04:47 PM
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Ok, so how do you suggest doing this? That's a big cultural shift you're asking for, what sort of things are you going to campaign for or push for to make this happen?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 04:16 PM
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Ok, but do you have friends? No one should be expecting you to just be able to make random conversation with people in the street. That's not how most relationships (sexual or otherwise) start. Mostly it's about meeting people in an environment you're more comfortable with and building up a friendship/friendly interaction before potentially asking the person out (or staying friends, if you'd rather). Are you able to do that with men and women?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 09:53 AM
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No they aren't 'damaged goods'. People's lives are just variable. 30 isn't even very old!
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 11:29 PM
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Are you able to socialise with men?
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 09:08 PM
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There are quite a few criticisms of trp on youtube, at least of some of the ideas that is spouted there.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 04:28 PM
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Other advice you've got is excellent, I really second having other ways to be intimate that don't involve sex. Build up the idea that affection, love and respect can all be given in ways that are not sexual. Someone wanting to hug you and cry on your shoulder is just as intimate, if not moreso, than sex. If they want to just cuddle rather than fuck, that is a sign that they care about YOU as a person just as much as they like you sexually. Therapy is also a good idea, to de-tangle some of your p…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 11:03 AM
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In terms of the lying, that was clearly wrong. A person can choose not to disclose it or they should tell the truth. Lying about it suggests they're doing it because they know you wouldn't be interested in them otherwise, that sort of manipulation isn't a good foundation for a relationship. I think it comes to that thing of 'I would not choose this but I don't think it is wrong for you to do it'. Do you think it is wrong of people to have lots of casual sex? If so, I'd question that - if they ar…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 10:54 AM
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It's... Not though. It's heavily debated.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/21 08:43 PM
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You do need to talk to women to have any form of relationship with one. There's really no getting around that.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/21 02:49 PM
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Psychology Stockholm Syndrome is still heavily debated, so I'm going to need citations for the idea that a physical version definitely exists. Sounds like you're still researching it, so by all means keep looking. The idea that people look for what they're used to and have learnt is certainly a common on, but I don't know how you differentiate between that and something you'd call Stockholm Syndrome.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/21 02:47 PM
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A friend of mine who is 28 generally only dates people who are at least 5 years older than her. For a while she dated a guy in his 40s. We've never really discussed why exactly she likes older men, but she would really like to settle down and have babies, so I guess older guys are more likely to be on the same page as her. Although the dude in his 40s was a bit of a loser imo, he did want kids with her. In the end it turned out he had a scary temper which was probably why he was single to begin …
/r/ExRedPill23/01/21 02:35 PM
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My friends and I used to say 'Pleasant sort of fellow' when we meant someone was genuinely nice, so as not to confuse the language. These days we usually say a guy is 'really decent' when we mean they're genuinely just nice people. If someone who wasn't in my friendship group told me that they new a nice guy, without any tone of voice or way of indicating that the person they were talking about wasn't actually nice. Then I would assume they meant the person was actually just nice. It's not like …
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 10:08 PM
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I mean, I'd be pretty upset about it because it would me I was no longer with my long term partner. That'd suck. But I think I'd probably be alright.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 11:25 AM
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I love myself. Well, strong word. I definitely don't hate myself. I have a firm core belief that I am a good person - a good friend, child, sibling. That I am true to myself and people respond positively to me. This doesn't mean I love everything about myself or don't think there are things about me that'd like to change or work on. It just means that those things don't overwhelm me - I want to lose weight but the fact I'm a bit heavier than I want to be doesn't 'mean' anything about me as a per…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 11:23 AM
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I had to read your other reply to know what on earth this was. No. It's not real.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 11:00 AM
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I'm not sure I fully understand your question? In a healthy relationship neither party should be 'playing games' with the emotions of the other (unless there's some consensual kink thing going on). Of course constantly playing games with someone and assuming they are doing the same to you is going to be tiring. Relationships are healthier and more fulfilling when one person is playing games behind the scenes.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/21 09:36 AM
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My (male) partner is demisexual. He doesn't have celebrity crushes etc because he can see they're attractive but doesn't want to be with them - he needs to get to know them first. There is this pervasive idea that 'men are only after one thing' but an idea being pervasive in society doesn't mean everyone thinks it. If you feel the idea of being demisexual resonates with you then cool.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/21 09:32 AM
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The question of if she gets a 'high value' man. I disagree with the premise in general. I also disagree with the guy replying to her.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/21 11:30 AM
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I think it says this particular woman has values I disagree with. Is there something you think it says beyond that?
/r/ExRedPill13/01/21 09:07 PM
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Teenagers shit test. Then ideally they mature. If an adult is 'shit testing', leave them. They need to grow up.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/21 09:06 PM
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I am a woman. I am with a 'good guy'. There you go. Most of my friends are with good guys too - certainly not 'alpha' (whatever the fuck that actually means).
/r/ExRedPill12/01/21 10:22 AM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with being submissive if it is how someone actually is/how they want to be. The issue is not some people being or choosing to be submissive to their partners. The issue is the 'should'. No one 'should' be anything other than a decent human being, telling a whole group of people they 'should' behave in a certain way, especially a way that doesn't align with who they really are, is just a recipe for disaster and unhappiness. We see it in lots of areas - society sa…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/21 07:33 PM
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Well that was gross to look at, thanks.
/r/ExRedPill07/01/21 01:53 PM
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Try Contrapoints
/r/ExRedPill06/01/21 09:11 AM
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It's a sub that is supposedly about helping women date but mostly is just the female version of redpill.
/r/ExRedPill04/01/21 02:06 PM
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As for the psychology aspect, modern psychology actually promotes healthy pushing and testing people through reframing and giving people other perspectives and options to try. Especially behavioural and clinical psychology. My point here is more that we are always taught, when studying psychology etc. is that a person shouldn't apply their work to people who are not their patients. People who have not sought them out or agreed to such things. It's not ok to go out and 'psychologist' people who h…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 05:24 PM
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I said that I grew out of it - hence why I now feel comfortable saying 'don't do this'. Because I did it, and it was bad. I think there is a difference between noticing things and wanting to help, and actively 'testing' people. And that is where things become problematic. Your aims are well intentioned, but your method and the way you talk about comes off as cold and manipulative. And if I were looking for a relationship, even if I were needy, and I found out that the person I was dating specifi…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 04:29 PM
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Yeah FDS is definitely unhealthy. Taking pleasure in causing others pain isn't cool either. I'm glad writing it out has helped, beyond that there's not much to say without you having any particular questions.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 03:57 PM
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Absolutely do not do this. People don't need to be 'tested' for you to spot red flags or behaviours - testing is immature and teenage. I think I literally did the cutting contact thing to see how they responded when I was about 16. Grow out of it, and communicate like adults.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/20 03:55 PM
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Yeah no. Doing things with the sole motive of getting into someone's pants is a trashy thing to do. It's not cool and it betrays people's trust. But it is not rape.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/20 05:59 PM
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I mean, being a misogynist certainly doesn't help your chances of being liked.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 06:27 PM
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'I want women to like me' 'I am a misogynist' I think I can see your problem.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 06:02 PM
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Also worth noting that the first two graphs are 'lifetime non-marital' which means the partners seen after the divorce end up being factors for the original divorce. If you were a virgin, got married, got divorced say 3 years later, and then had say 4 more partners, then in those statistics the post-divorce partners ('lifetime') are counted in the n-count risk factor in your divorce. That doesn't make sense. Most US divorces happen at the 7 year mark, so even some of the 'stable' marriages accor…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 08:09 PM
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Anything can be a problematic trait, so yeah.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/20 06:03 PM
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By... Talking about it? You use it in dating by being open about your hobbies and interests. I don't think there's really anything else to it. Maybe if things are going well enough with someone you could show her some or make her something. But that's up to you.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 11:53 AM
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I have no idea what form of 'feminism' you've interacted with that says it's bad for you to want to get married? If it's a great 'cost' for you to live your life treating women with respect then I am deeply concerned.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/20 12:05 AM
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No? Plenty to say about reshaping society - that's going to take a whole lot more than following their 'rules'. It's not a dating strategy, it's a social movement about restructuring society. That means: Automatically assumes that currently society functions differently to how they would like it to, so if you're finding following feminist ideals isn't 'working' that's probably because society doesn't change that fast. As stated, not a dating strategy. No 'rules' in feminism are aimed at helping …
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 10:59 PM
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As people have pointed out, you can't 'become' an extrovert. There's nothing wrong with being an introvert, I'm friends with so many introverts. It doesn't mean they're not confident or happy in social situations, it just means that they need some alone time to recharge after those interactions. It's totally possible to be a very socially confident introvert. Your issue is more the social anxiety, in which case your psychotherapist should be helping with that in terms of both techniques and if a…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/20 11:55 AM
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I like the Matrix, it feels very tired now, but at the time there weren't many films that took that sort of concept seriously. The reason it feels like a 14 year old came up with it is because now it's a really familiar concept that any edgelord teen feels like they're a genius for spouting, before this film it was a much less common phenomena. I don't love it, it's not an incredible film and I'm not about to build a world view based on it, but I don't think it's awful. I do take issue with goin…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/20 09:56 AM
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Seriously used it? Literally never. I've only ever used the phrase jokingly amongst friends once I heard about trp phrases (to joke about the terms). Never ever heard any of my friends use it seriously either. Even if the things really did exist, based on the descriptions I prefer 'beta' males anyway. But I've never considered it without being specifically prompted by red pill people in discussions, most of the time they aren't phrases/categorisations I'd ever use.
/r/ExRedPill05/12/20 07:47 PM
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I'm confused how the redpill convinced you you're a 'beta' male when everything you've said sounds like things they praise? Either way, there's no such thing as 'alpha' and 'beta' etc in human society, at least not in any sort of inescapable sense. I don't really see how she can ruin your life though? You've only been on one date? What exactly does she have the power to do right now? She can not go on dates with you - hardly life ruining. Sad, sure, especially since you're quite keen on her, but…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/20 08:30 PM
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It would need to apply to literally all women - even one exception and the idea crumbles. There are many exceptions.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/20 08:11 PM
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Most people do not respect anybody let alone a man without certain things Citation needed. Who are 'most people'? What do you view as 'respect'? I feel like perhaps we will be talking past each other on the basis that what you view as 'respect' and what I view as 'respect', and what we both expect from people, might be quite different. Honestly, I don't hate other people mostly because I'm really quite lazy and hatred takes up a lot of time and energy I could be using on things I actually like d…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/20 03:35 PM
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You don't sound very 'ex' red pill nor do you seem to want to leave, so why are you here?
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 01:09 PM
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It's a shame to see such things in places of learning, since the poster shows a clear misunderstanding of both women and divorce procedure/likely outcome. But also, it's not that surprising. I do support people knowing their rights, but I don't think that's actually what this group wants.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 09:47 AM
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I definitely don't disagree with your second paragraph (or suggestion, lol) but Universities are also for teaching Arts and Humanities which explicitly includes politics and religion. People have got to learn about it somewhere. I agree that the teaching of those things in universities should be as neutral as possible (leaving space to condemn things that are actively harmful) but both things do very much belong in educational institutions.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 09:43 AM
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Why would she pick you? Maybe because she likes you and enjoys your company? Like, you don't have to 'provide' anything except the things she apparently already likes about you. Whatever the fuck you do don't stop texting her to get her attention, wtf. Clearly she already likes you for you being the way you are! Don't suddenly change because you're worried who you are isn't enough when clearly it's what drew her to you in the first place.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 09:18 PM
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And I would agree with you if we were talking generally and not about online dating apps. Ideally people are not getting their only social interaction through dating apps. Instead of it being general think of it more like a classroom, is it better to be the kid who is ignored by their peers (assuming, again, that they get interaction elsewhere) or the one that is actively bullied by their peers (assuming that they are not bullied elsewhere). The answer, to me at least, is clearly 'both are terri…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/20 09:32 AM
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Don't call yourself a 'manlet' is demeaning and a bit gross as a word. You're a man. Also, notice how the one girl who disagreed you automatically assume as 'virtue signalling' instead of expressing her actual opinion? Why is that? Over this weekend I drove my friends to the hospital so they could have their baby. The husband in that relationship is shorter than me (I'm 5'3). His wife adores him, they've been together for 11 years, they've just had a baby together. Clearly, some women don't give…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 09:53 PM
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They *think* they'd like that, who knows if they feel the same way if it actually happened. Both situations suck, I don't think one is inherently better or worse than the other.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 09:49 PM
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Something not being surprising can still be alarming. Even if these young men are desperate to escape their gender roles and struggling with societal pressures, it's still alarming if they become radicalised into a hate-filled movement that spreads false information and distrust in half the population. Powerlessness against a narrative can be suffocating, for sure, and it's in that sort of space that people get radicalised. That doesn't make it not alarming that people do get radicalised, especi…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 09:48 PM
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I'm sorry you had those experiences. I can see why they make this much more difficult and why these feelings linger. At the same time, you know that those were the opinions of one or two women and that they are things worth getting over - not smiling in pictures is a silly rule, even if it was caused by real harmful interactions. I don't think your insecurity comes from nowhere, clearly it doesn't. You've had these experiences and you've seen other people not in your position get what you want. …
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:52 PM
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We live in very different worlds if most 24 year olds you know have their own houses/apartments (not a flat/house share or living at home). I know so many people of various genders who still live at home/are still completing their degrees/are currently unemployed (especially in this global situation), some of them have relationships, some of them don't. I don't think you're in a bad place for dating just because you don't have that stuff. I'm sure in some circumstances it can help, but it's not …
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 01:32 PM
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In general, it tends to be the case that men pursue and start the relationship, and women are the ones to have a talk about if it's official or not. At least, that's how the media tells us relationships work. Each individual person and relationship is much more varied. I asked my fiancé out and made the first move for kissing, he was the one who asked about moving in together etc. It varies from couple to couple. The chances are, at some point in time you'll be rejected or a relationship will fa…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 10:50 PM
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No, it doesn't prove any thing she said. How people treat you says more about them than it does about you. Loving someone even if they treat you badly is painful, but it doesn't mean anything about you.
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:58 PM
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Why does it make you feel those things? What does her apparent 'success' in sleeping around mean about you other than 'you're different people'? We've discussed here, often, how you need to move on from this girl and how she's warped your perspective on women. Are you taking your meds? Are you seeing your therapist? After my ex and I broke up he was straight into another relationship and slept with several other women within a month or so. Some people have that ability, I didn't, you apparently …
/r/ExRedPill15/11/20 03:53 PM
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There are many male feminists who would disagree, maybe you could try talking to them about why they don't mind the things that bother you.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 03:15 PM
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Yes, the patriarchy enforces gender roles etc which means it can be just as damaging to men as it is to women. It doesn't stop men suffering. Anyone claiming that is just wrong. Men aren't portrayed as the enemy in any feminist spaces I'm in. They're stuck in the same cultural soup and have their own struggles.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 02:27 PM
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Which parts of the red pill in particular are you drawn to? You mention you're against feminism because you think there are more neutral options, but then you say you're going towards red pill, which is definitely not neutral by any stretch.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 02:05 PM
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Evolutionary biology is no way near as simple as trp makes it out to be. Hypergamy seems to be a social action which occurs in societies which already have a high emphasis on social status as a rigid and immutable thing - especially in those cultures which have arranged marriages. In more equal society, there is much less hypergamy. It is neither innate in biology nor is it a personal choice - it's a societal pressure that occurs in specific settings.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 11:18 AM
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I'm not going to tell you what your strategy should be, because no one strategy is going to work and any advice I give would be too generic given that I don't know you. I would say that getting rid of any redpill of how men and women 'work' or there 'nature' will likely help in the long run though.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 09:01 AM
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I'm sorry your ex-wife was so awful and took control of everything. That sounds like a horrible miscarriage of justice. I'm glad you've found love again and I'm sorry for the lasting damage it's done for your trust in others. I completely understand why you would never put someone else's name on anything, and I think it sounds like the best move for you, but I'm sorry everything happened to make it the right choice. Most feminists are anti-conscription in general, but if it had to happen would s…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 12:27 PM
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Fair enough, I think that everyone can change and move forward so if they have moved on from it, good for them and I think they shouldn't be barred from finding a loving relationship. So we're just coming at it from different view points.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 04:27 PM
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Mostly, are you taking your medications? Proves that the girls you know don't like that, perhaps. But not all girls. You said yourself you're back living with your grandparents and dropped out of college etc, to me that suggests you're back in your home town which has the same set of cultural ideas you were raised around and found difficult. If you could ever find a means of being somewhere else, I imagine you would find different groups of people with different wants and desires in a partner.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 01:02 PM
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If they held it at some point and no longer do, I don't think you necessarily need to avoid them - they've had character growth! Everyone else has given good advice for avoiding men who are currently in that mindset.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 10:04 AM
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Are you taking your medications and talking to your psychologist? It sounds like you need to talk to them. I think you pin too much on this idea of being 'secure' in order to date. Many, many people are not fully secure when they date/find their partners. The expectations you are feeling overwhelmed by seem to be predominantly being enforced by you right now.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 09:30 AM
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How do you suggest fixing it? It's great to recognise problems in society, the next step is thinking about how to solve them, what do you think should be done? For reference. This video is a poor attempt at showing an issue in society. But if I accept the premise of your point. What is the problem in society you would like fixing, and how do you propose doing so?
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 11:19 AM
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RP always uses a small true thing to build up a bigger false narrative. No one is denying that some women have low self esteem and narcissistic attitudes. But the stretch to say it's all/nearly all women is where trp gets wrapped up in toxicity.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 02:22 PM
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Ok, so if the 'finish line' is nebulous and can mean pretty much anything in any particular niche. Doesn't that make the idea of it as some sort of rule a bit pointless. Like if people were running a race but the finish line varied dramatically between people depending on almost anything, we wouldn't call it a race? Also, if women are waiting at the 'finish line' wouldn't they be all along the race depending on their tastes and what they consider to be the finish? In which case there are women e…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 03:10 PM
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Stop listening to red pill people. What even is the finish line?? Who decides? So that is already a flaw with that idea. But also most couples I know met at university. When they were all poor students. So what 'finish line' exactly? As for what attracts and sustains: Communication and shared values. They are what keep relationships together.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 12:05 PM
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You're 20, it is by no means 'too late' to start dating. Only you can decide if it's 'worth' it. But if you change women to 'people' - are people worth letting your guard down to? Are people worth your time? If you genuinely want intimacy and someone to share your life with, then yes? You might get hurt again, but that's a risk everyone takes. Idk where you're getting this '4+ sexual partners and at least 2 LTRs' from??? That's a bullshit number pulled from thin air. Some women might have had th…
/r/ExRedPill02/11/20 02:31 PM
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This isn't a dating advice sub. Also I don't really understand what she's saying? Sounds like a nasty break up though, block her and move on.
/r/ExRedPill02/11/20 02:19 PM
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I mean, I agree with 'not all men'. I think it's a massively unhelpful way to look at the world and does no one any favours. So... yeah? Not all men. Not all women. Enough for people to have bad experiences, enough for people to need to call out shitty behaviour. But not enough to justify acting like it's a whole gender issue.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 07:59 PM
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Are you telling me it's 'real' science because it has a subreddit? Calling something science doesn't make it science, and studies can easily be misread/misinterpreted. I'm sure some studies do make points that blackpill people agree with, but I highly doubt any of them 'prove' anything.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 07:56 PM
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'Seem legit' isn't the same as being legit. But mostly 'science' is really far more nebulous and speculative than people seem to think it is. Seeing things IRL/using anecdotes really don't account for making claims that cover 50% of the population. I have no idea if it's realistic to how dating works. It's what that study showed. I've never dated online. I hear it's hell though - and anecdotally, which as stated, is a bit iffy as proof - I am aware that it's hard for men who get nothing and hard…
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 06:18 PM
2

'Women apologist' lol. Okey dokey. You do you.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 06:15 PM
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How so? Some women are shitty. That is not something denied here. Red Pill thinking, especially 'awalt' isn't the truth. Those are not contradictory statements.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 05:55 PM
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No one here is claiming that there aren't women who behave shittily during dating? Just that it's neither something exclusive to women nor something all women do. Red Pill isn't 'truth'. It's just a different form of lies.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 05:40 PM
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I hope you slowly learn as you do.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 05:24 PM
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Firstly, the 'science' incels uses is usually either wrong (lots of things have no sources) and secondly much of the things backed by 'science' are misinterpretations or just lying about what the source says. For example, the 'data' from dating sites does say that women score men fairly low on attractiveness. But that same study also has clear evidence that the women will talk to those men anyway. The data from that study explicitly shows that men rated women's looks higher, but only spoke to th…
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 05:21 PM
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Then why are you here? If you don't want to listen to rational people discuss the real world, feel free to return to whatever space you're in that says height is an 'instant panty dropper' for all women or whatever nonsense it is you lot believe.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 05:15 PM
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Yeah, nah. Being tall is not an 'instant panty dropper' of a quality. I don't know what happened with friend, but 'being tall' is not a 'instant panty dropper' for women. Maybe it was for that woman, idk, but it's definitely not one in general.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 04:06 PM
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Ok, what one trait does your friend have that made that possible? I never claimed that it wasn't possible to have sex instantly, just that there's no one trait that will guarantee it.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 03:56 PM
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Are you suggesting there is such a thing?
/r/ExRedPill01/11/20 03:21 PM
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No, because there are no guarantees.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 02:04 PM
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You can't know someone else's level of confidence. You can only guess based on how they act in the moment. But I have only ever been in relationships where I got to know the person over the course of a few months before we started dating. So I got to know where they were confident and where they weren't. Being confident and sure of yourself certainly helps in all things. For no small part because it makes people more able to be resilient when they are not successful.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:50 PM
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even if I regain that confidence I still can't realistically say that it's an instant panty dropper. Nothing is an 'instant panty dropper'. Literally nothing. If that's what you're looking for then you're always going to be disappointed. Anyone who claims their advice will lead to such things is absolutely lying. Confidence (and a generally strong sense of self) are helpful - I may even say very helpful - in finding people to date and not getting too caught up in the inherent difficulties of dat…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 11:33 AM
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Feminists don't say anything about seduction? So... neither. PUAs by virtue of being wrong and feminists by virtue of not talking about it.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 05:46 PM
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Yes but the original commenter was clearly talking about who they want in a relationship not who they want in an arrangement that they know is entirely transactional that they will drop when they no longer have the desire for that type of attachment. So those sorts of arrangements don't matter when it comes to discussing who people want in a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 03:20 PM
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Yes, they do it for the nice things. But it's clearly a transactional relationship. How many of these women do you see settling down with/falling in love with these men? Not many. Because when it comes to real relationships that people want when they're not just using each other, it's not usually with someone who is 'just' rich. (There are, of course, some people who do that, but by no means enough to make it a generalisation that could apply to most women).
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 02:06 PM
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Women only love conditionally based on what you can provide for them. Men love unconditionally as a sort of evolutionary safeguard, where a woman is incapable of loving unconditionally. There's a lot to unpack here, so please bear with me. Should we encourage unconditional love except between parents and children? It's not healthy for anyone to devote themselves to someone else regardless of that person's actions. What is the example of unconditional love they're using here? How do we measure it…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/20 10:43 AM
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No. I like being treated like the rational and intelligent human being I am. I think perhaps a lot of people get confused between some kinds of sex things and general treatment - even in the BDSM community rough stuff is only in the agreed upon places. Some RP people saw that some women (by no means all!) like to have rough sex and decided that all women must like to be treated like trash all the time. Basically they need to stop getting their ideas about how women work from pornography.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 03:31 PM
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Alternative option: It is neither a shit test nor is she a good partner. This weird thing about testing people. Only teenagers really do that, so if she was testing you she's really immature. She probably just wanted to meet her guy friends and see a game, and you hurt her feelings by not answering the next day - that seems more like you were playing games with her rather than just communicating that actually you really wish she had chosen to spend the evening with her. I'm sorry your ex-cheated…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 04:07 PM
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I feel like the message should be 'If you're going to use porn you should absolutely pay for it as it's one of the best ways to ensure the people involved are not being exploited.' Free porn is often stolen from other places or made under very, very dubious circumstances. It's quite clear that you're anti-porn before you even say so, and that's fine, but also not where I expected this to go. I can imagine the red pill response to not paying for porn, something about increasing women's value and …
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 09:32 AM
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Your ex-girlfriends hold very strange beliefs, I'm glad they're all exes! Some people suck. I get it, it's an issue you're passionate about and it's hard to find discussion of it. But I promise you it's happening in more places!
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:58 PM
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I think most people would agree that many of the societal expectations for men are bad and affect men. Yes, it's horrifying that such the civil rights movement was really such a short time ago that it's in living memory. It feels like something that should have happened a lot sooner! But thank goodness it did.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:51 PM
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Okey dokey. I agree it's not just a female phenomenon and that it's especially difficult for people raised in quite religious environments who have one side that is very anti-sex and the other side of the media telling them they should be loving it and out there getting some. I agree that both of those pressures are unhealthy for all genders and can be very harmful for men in those situations. Most people don't work in direct stereotypes, so I wouldn't worry too much about if people are hitting …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:45 PM
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Change isn't fast, that's for sure. But that doesn't mean it's not happening. The question is more now about how middle schoolers are finding things now. Which I can't answer. (And middle school age kids are social monsters, so that might not be somewhere that's noticeably changing yet idk). Yes, there are still issues with what is socially acceptable in terms of male sexuality etc. But that's a big, big issue. That's going to be generations worth of change. For the most part it's about making s…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:35 PM
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That I can think of off the top of my head. Reduction in rape being used as a casual joke or punchline. Noticeably reduction in the use of the term 'gay' as an insult. More relaxed attitudes towards little boys playing dress up in 'feminine' clothing. Those are all things I consider good that came about through slow societal changes.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:33 PM
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I don't think men don't have sexual shame. I never claimed I thought that. I made a statement about being men not being shamed for having lots of partners - which is society men are often praised for. The sexual shame you tend to talk about relates to being shamed for being inexperienced or coming on to strong - which is what I would anticipate given society's view that men supposedly 'should' be having loads of sex or are praised for being 'studs'. I also am aware and agree that abuse and relig…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:31 PM
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Culture shifts gradually, but it does do it noticeably. I disagree that nothing changes, I think there have been lots of changes that have been positive in the world that were gradual and to do with more people making choices that helped the culture shift.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:54 PM
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I think much of the sex positive movement isn't gender specific, so in that sense yes. There is sex positivity for men. Sexual liberation was generally about reducing shaming for having sex, which is not an issue men general face. So in terms of sexual liberation, less so. Body positivity is definitely something that needs more work to include men. But I'm hopeful.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:53 PM
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Yes. All positive changes are exactly like that.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:51 PM
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Yes, hypergamy is false. Men are attracted to a range of bodies, and women don't have one look they go for. Looks are not an objective fact that everyone agrees on. Lots of women have happy relationships with men who are not financially stable. Polygammy is real but I don't know what trp says about it? It's quite a fringe practice often related to particular religious groups. The point is that it is both not there - at least not in any meaningful sense that makes talking about it useful - AND it…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:27 PM
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Because patterns may apply to a whole group, but rarely apply to individuals. Also much of the 'instincts' and 'patterns' trp suggests are both wrong and insulting to men and women.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 11:41 AM
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Given the number of relationships I know that started in university - when both people involved were dirt poor and still figuring themselves out and definitely not eating healthy/working out - I don't think it's necessary to 'have your life figured out'. No, relationships aren't only for sex. If you don't want to have a relationship, and just want to pay for sex, fine, you do you. But it sounds more like you're psyching yourself out over how 'hard' dating is (it is tricky, for everyone, but it's…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 11:34 AM
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I mean, no one should be claiming that being yourself and talking about your feelings is easy. Important, helpful, healthy. Sure. Easy? Nope. Not for the vast majority of people. If you really, really just want sex and don't want a relationship, I suggest seeing a sex worker. It's honest and open about the reasons, and you can have sex without strings attached. Appreciate the sex worker is providing you a service, don't be an asshole, pay them appropriately. It's all good. Alternatively, there a…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 11:27 AM
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I mean, this isn't a CMV sub. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 06:58 AM
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You see a therapist. You learn how to make new habits to replace old ones. There are self help books for that or you see a therapist. Not really, everyone has baggage they take into relationships with them. The key thing is accepting that it's your baggage and not expecting your new partner to have to manage your baggage for you.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 06:53 AM
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Sounds like purity culture and not talking about sex did a number on you. I'm really sorry about that. I'd recommend places like r/exvangelical or similar, find a community who almost definitely went through similar things and are going through a similar process, or are on the other side. They may have some more explicit advice.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 08:36 PM
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It's a redpill myth.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 02:33 PM
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I mean, he should see a doctor about the alopecia if he's not already, to make sure there's not an underlying cause. But no, I don't think it's a 'really serious problem' for his dating life. Personally I find the gym boring af, so I prefer guys who don't regularly go to the gym and work out, because otherwise I have to hear about it. I'm sure he's perfectly capable of finding a date, it just might take a while because almost no-one is guaranteed and easy dating life.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 02:22 PM
2

I'm sure some of them can be quite nice when not talking about red pill stuff. The ideas of the red pill are insufferable. The people themselves don't have to be.
/r/ExRedPill17/10/20 08:38 PM
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Why does nobody talk about this? Well, there are lots of other flaws to talk about... We can add this one to the pile though.
/r/ExRedPill17/10/20 08:37 PM
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It's called 'Hybristophilia' it's a paraphilia (extreme sexual desire - there's a lot of debate about if paraphilias should be considered illnesses or just 'very unusual and extreme' kinks). Paraphilias of many forms are found in men and women. So the fact that these women have this particular paraphilia doesn't mean anything about 'women' in general, any more than a man being super into say, amputations or vomit or trees, says anything about 'men'. Once again, you are seeing the action of a few…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 12:53 PM
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No, it's unhealthy so I don't like it. My dislike only came following seeing it being a not great way to interact with people. My interaction with PUA stuff is likely not as wide as yours, but the practice of negging seems to happen there - that's not cool - and cold approaching is uncomfortable and shows a lack of care for the other person. I'm not going to go through and talk about every method. It is unhealthy to see interactions as things that can be won or lost, and from what I have seen of…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 07:47 AM
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What did I say about 'ethnics'?? Also... No. Shaming is saying 'you are a bad person for doing X'. I am saying 'I think X is an unhealthy action, it doesn't matter if it gets results'. That's only shaming if you decide that doing an unhealthy action makes you a 'bad person', which, for the record, it doesn't. People can be good people who participate in unhealthy or unhelpful things, it doesn't impact their value as people. 'Facts' about things like experience work in forms of repeated qualitati…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 07:17 AM
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According to my personal experience That's a proven fact. That's not how facts work. Also. Ok. Some PUA stuff works. Doesn't make it a healthy way to interact with other people. I've never disliked PUA because it doesn't 'work' at achieving something around dating. I dislike it because it's a bit gross and I disapprove of the methods regardless of their efficacy.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 07:08 AM
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I like the idea, but it would be much easier just to not bother with the concept of 'pills'.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 07:54 AM
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"But guys also act promiscuous" not really, Literally your main post, using this source and statistics to argue against the idea that guys aren't also 'promiscuous'. That's when you said (or at the very least very strongly implied) that it's something about women. Women are very much competing against other women, or at least are led to believe they are. I agree that men from these groups do just want love and acceptance, I never disagreed with that point. They're trying to get it in a stupid wa…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 02:36 PM
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Ok, but we recognise that in a discussion where this 'promiscuity' is described as being something more inherent to women that makes no sense - because some men somewhere are getting that sex too and therefore the issue of 'degeneracy' is not gendered.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 02:00 PM
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Yes, so talking about average number of partners between men and women makes no sense. You have illustrated my point.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 01:08 PM
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Yes. So the average between groups would still be equal. As for the 'top percentile thing', that's just not true.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 12:57 PM
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Ok. But that doesn't change the fact that even if we try to balance for that, for every woman that reports there must be a man who was involved in that encounter.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 12:39 PM
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Oh wow, it really really doesn't say what OP is saying it says. Impressive.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 12:37 PM
1

Thanks for doing that leg work!
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 12:35 PM
1

Did you get that quote from the main article? It's behind a paywall for me. The second link is entirely in German. But again, in all these cases there must be men these women are having sex with. The way this works mean there must be both a man and a woman involved - so even if 8.4% of 'the men surveyed' haven't had sex, that proves nothing about women being 'more promiscuous' because there must be men involved, just not the ones surveyed. If women have 5.1 partners in the last 12 months, then t…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 11:55 AM
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Other replies here are excellent, the main thing I want to ask is about these studies of 'average' sexual partners. Because the maths never adds up. The guys had 2.2 sexual partners and the girls had 5.5?? So where are the extra 3.3 men coming from to sleep with these women? If it's based on average the numbers would always be equal and even when it's not claimed as average. For every woman having (heterosexual) sex, there is also a man having it. So men must be 'just as promiscuous'. What study…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 07:20 AM
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The thing people think they 'need' is often not what they think it will be. But the point is that you're learning, and even if you did things you now recognise as 'bad' you can now do better.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 10:40 AM
2

There's a big difference between admitting that young men are having a difficult time - which is generally something most people accept - and claiming the 'straight up have it worse', which isn't really a helpful distinction at the best of times.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 10:18 AM
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Well done for realising! Unfortunately in life there aren't any do-overs, but there are do-betters and now you're on a path to those. Good luck!
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 10:03 AM
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I don't massively want to give this person views. But I recommend the YouTube video by Shaun replying to 'What all women need to hear' by Lauren Sutherland. I expect it will cover many of the same talking points. He talks quite slowly, just so you know (I usually speed him up a little) As for the one in the thumbnail. Of course women can feel empathy for men. Men can also feel empathy for women. There is nothing so different between men and women that would stop that, we're not a different speci…
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 09:37 AM
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I think it's good to leave the redpill and those ideas. If you need to work on trusting women and look for sources of advice which you also trust more, that's fine. Those might take time and you are still quite young. But the question can sort of be read as 'I can't decide if I should stop drinking poison, because I don't know what else I want to drink/I'm not sure I like the other drinks'. It's still a good idea to stop drinking poison, even if you're not sure what comes next.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 10:07 PM
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Fair enough. Also yeah, realistically almost everything is a numbers game to an extent, so I don't necessarily disagree with the original claim of the OP - that the more you approach the more likely you are to be successful. Same with things like getting a job, the more you apply for the more likely you are to get one. And every time you fail, it's practice. But I don't think it would necessarily be 'enough' to get into a ltr or a happy relationship. It depends what people are after.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:30 PM
1

Hmmm, yes and no. Yes - there are loads of thirsty guys out there who could give a woman casual sex. No - that's no use if the person you want isn't looking for a 'job' is it? There's an assumed premise that women can both want 'any' man as long as he fits the criteria and that women can get 'any' man. But that's not how actual relationships work, people don't usually want 'just anyone' they want a specific person - someone they mesh with, someone they actually like etc. And to find that it's go…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:27 PM
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Youtube is a good place to look for starter skin care routines - mostly it's about learning about oil vs dryness and a good moisturiser. A really early way to start is just to wash your face with warm water every day. For good pictures, people often look better if the angle of the photo is slightly from above. Try out taking some selfies and different angles and see what feels good.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:17 PM
1

Given that very recently there was an academic study that went through about if women who experience worse period pains are more attractive, I don't think I agree with your claim that 'misogynistic' studies aren't going to happen. A study into violent practices and if it attracts partners isn't even necessarily misogynistic, I can easily imagine such studies being completed. And studies into the average number of approaches needed to find partners. Although there'd need to be a distinction betwe…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:15 PM
2

That's not evidence, that's more unsubstantiated claims that need evidence.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 11:07 AM
2

Continued, because the whole post was too long otherwise. ​ I wanted to bring up something, a lot of people here assume TRP to be misogynistic or MGTOW to be misogynistic. I agree, I think there are ideas in both trp and mgtow that have merit and aren't inherently misogynistic. In fact the concept of MGTOW in general, without any of the stuff around it now, makes a lot of sense; if men decide they'd rather not have relationships etc, more speed to them, that's their choice and if they're happy w…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/20 10:27 AM
2

Ok so I had a really long chat with my partner yesterday about the wage gap, and did various bits of reading etc. And the conclusion we reached is that the wage gap does exist - but it's a much smaller difference than is usually announced by media/politicians (which makes sense, extremes always sell/sound better). I would also add though, that I'm just one person and I can have uninformed views about things, I don't really owe you or anyone an argument or a discussion. I have now chatted with my…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/20 10:24 AM
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I mean, there is a conversation to be had about bodily autonomy and pregnancy. I don't know exactly where I stand on it. I do think it is not as simple as 'her body her choice' in regards to things that would harm the child and not benefit the mother. For example I am pro-choice, but once the choice was made to keep it. Then there's a whole other discussion. I think it is entirely possible you could go to Ask Feminists, but I think it would depend on how you asked the question.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 04:15 PM
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Again, this is one random persons opinion on a reddit thread. Some people hold these opinions, not everyone does, in fact I think the 'it doesn't matter what she does' opinion is probably fairly rare, especially to this extreme. If you're going to get worked up about someone having an opinion you dislike, so much so that you're going to give up entirely on women (again, not sure why women are the source of your frustration since we have no idea what the gender of the person making the argument i…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 12:16 PM
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So, firstly, a glass of wine probably wouldn't have harmed the child, considering it was late term and she'd not had a drink during the rest of the pregnancy. It's beside the point really, because I don't think he was an asshole for not getting it for her. But for the record, one glass of wine is really not a high risk thing. Secondly, you're tempted to turn to MGTOW because one person you don't now the gender of, who has 'asshole enthusiast' as their flair, made some strange arguments on a subr…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 11:59 AM
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If you don't go in with your hackles raised (i.e. in good faith) then you'd be fine.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 06:28 AM
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I haven't downvoted you at all, so sure. Ok, yeah, I see the irony in that. Although, we have no idea if he considered himself attractive. For all we know he accepted that he was ugly because he had ugly thoughts. My comment also clearly agrees with you that anti-Semitism is bad, so idk why you think I'd down vote you for pointing it out?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 09:14 PM
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There are definitely women who have their femininity questioned and/or are mocked by their peers if they choose not to date or don't show interest in men. That's definitely a thing.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 09:10 PM
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I don't see how it's ironic? Because we would expect and anti-Semite to say that if someone has ugly thoughts they'd be pretty? Or because anti-Semites have ugly thoughts to Dahl himself was ugly? Or because we assume that since he was an anti-Semite that he thought there were some features which would be ugly regardless of a person's thoughts? I guess potentially all of the above?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 09:08 PM
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I imagine, much like in most trp communities, there is variation. There was a chat about marriage recently in a feminist subreddit I'm in - the general consensus was 'it comes from a not great set of traditions that people are iffy about, and has a lot of strange gendered traditions in it, but if two people want to do it that's their choice and good luck to them. But marriage shouldn't be something society expects or forces.' Nothing to do with women being slaves. Nothing to do with men being ch…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 08:55 PM
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'And you won't admit that?' No? I was mostly just stating that it's a correlation that bugs me. It's not a particularly important fact. The same way I agree, it doesn't really matter if the woman in question is a feminist or not - even if she is that doesn't make what she's saying ok, and there's a whole debate in feminism about whether we get to gate keep or not. I think the wage gap exists because it is widely accepted that it exists and I have no reason to believe I'm being lied to about it -…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 08:51 PM
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As a feminist whose never dyed her hair, I really think that should stop being a 'sign' of feminism. My hair is long and its natural colour. I am still very much a feminist. It sounds like you have a lot of pre-conceived notions of what a feminist 'looks' like, and whilst I'm sure there are feminists who dye there hair, it's not really a 'thing' that feminists do, we're not a cult or a hive mind. Also, incredibly, Feminism doesn't have a test people have to pass to claim to be feminist, so anyon…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 06:25 PM
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I need to re-iterate. Anyone, of any gender, that aligns themselves with a 'pill' is not to be trusted. Pinkpill feminists - don't trust them or take what they say as indication of anything. Red pill people - don't trust them or take what they say as an indication of anything. Blackpill, bluepill, purplepill. All those things, don't take what they say as indicative of anything except the warped opinions of the people saying them. What do you think the 'feminist agenda' is, out of interest? Someo…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 05:36 PM
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As always, my response is 'who'? You see, a good way to get out of red pill ideas is to not spend time in red pill spaces. So ideally anyone trying to get out, or who has left, won't know people who embody red pill ideology as they no longer engage with it.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 05:01 PM
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'Feminists' on a whole don't do anything, there is nothing inherent to feminism that demands misandry. You met some shitty people who happened to be feminists. Same way not all Christians are shit and not all Muslims are shit and not all men are shit. I feel think the two and two you put together isn't 'feminism and hating men' it's 'women who make misandrist comments and hating men'. Feminism =/= making misandrist comments. Even if this lot of feminists did so. It sucks that you've seen a lot o…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 04:58 PM
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I completely agree.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 04:43 PM
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This is not a dating sub. There are many, many ways to attract women. Depends on the partner, depends on the man, depends on the situation, depends on the culture. Generally speaking, treat women like people and treat them how you would want to be treated (nicely, respecting your autonomy, all that stuff). You should work on not seeing women as a separate thing from men or humans. I don't understand the question. You're asking about dating so presumably you think you will get something out of it…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 04:16 PM
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Fair enough. Most people here talk in a specifically American context, so I guess the stats about America matter more than them. But putting it in a general Western perspective is fine too.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 04:04 PM
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Hello, I'm a woman and a feminist. I don't hate men and all the other self-proclaimed feminists I know and respect don't dislike men. If you go to r/AskFeminists you'll see a whole group of feminist people (of a variety of genders) talking about how they don't hate men. Similarly you might like r/MensLib which is an explicitly feminist space, for men to discuss healthy ways to express emotion etc - so presumably all the men there don't hate men. If you can't find feminist spaces that talk nicely…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 04:01 PM
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Okay? Men and women cheat different amounts based on the country they're in etc. and you don't like marriage. Fine. You have stats for one and the second is your personal opinion - you feel free to dislike marriage if that's how you feel. What are you hoping to get from this?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 03:57 PM
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No one is really denying that power/money/very high social status makes it easier for people to get sex. To that extent, yes, trp has it 'right'. But that's not trp's main point, is it? It points out this thing, that happens to a very few people who make it to being kings or celebs etc. And then says 'and if you can't do that, you're shit out of luck'. And that's where things break down, because that's not true and believing it just makes people miserable. Also it's not really 'alpha/beta' becau…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 09:10 PM
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This is pretty common - it's the on going thing that happens to a lot of people (not just incels). You're looking for external validation for an internal problem. You were never, outwardly, undesirable or unlovable etc. But you feel that you are - and that's probably not actually a rational feeling (feelings are very rarely rational). It's one of those times when I offer the cliché advice of - see a therapist. Work through your shit with someone who's trained for it. Because as you've seen - you…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 09:43 AM
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There are lots of methods, I'd suggest Exposure-Response. That is, when you have the thoughts, don't engage with them. Don't even acknowledge them. Let them be there, but carry on with what you're doing. Thoughts only stick around if you keep giving them a response.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/20 08:55 PM
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Commonly cited reasons for divorce (often couples cite more than one thing): Lack of commitment is the most common reason given by divorcing couples according to a recent national survey. Here are the reasons given and their percentages: Lack of commitment 73% Argue too much 56% Infidelity 55% Married too young 46% Unrealistic expectations 45% Lack of equality in the relationship 44% Lack of preparation for marriage 41% Domestic Violence or Abuse 25% So hardly superficial reasons or reasons that…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/20 08:53 PM
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On the basis that I'm engaged. I'm pretty pro-marriage. It's not for everyone and it has it's flaws. But I'm really excited for my relationship to be legally recognised and to really publicly declare that I love my partner. I currently have significantly more resources than my partner, so if one of us is getting robbed, it won't be him.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 04:23 PM
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If they've not got any sources (and legitmate ones at that) then my thoughts are 'this is made up bullshit'. 67% of men in trp make up statistics. (this is a joke, because these are numbers I pulled out of my ass but if I put them on an image and tell people what they already believe, I bet it'd be shared all over the place as 'truth')
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 09:45 AM
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Some girls play into the gender roles that society prescribes for them - like being whiney or playing dumb. Should they? Well that's a tough question: should people work in the system they've been given or should they try to fight it? Generally I'd go for fighting it, but everyone is different. As for the confidence thing... There is no one think 'women' expect from 'men'. There are societal standards, and you do see some people believe in them, but by no means does everyone hold onto those soci…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 09:41 AM
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I can't explain her behaviour, but I do think it's unfair of her to back off without any explanation after it seemed to be going well. But I completely agree that it sounds like something going on with her than anything you did 'wrong' - and you're definitely not any of those trp buzzwords (honestly I would suggest not even asking there) - I used to love staying over/having my partner stay over even when we didn't have sex, because ideally you just enjoy the person's company! I'm sorry it ended …
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 03:09 PM
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No, it is not true. No relationships would ever last or be healthy if that were the case. Is it really opening up and being vulnerable that is the cause here? Or is their correlation you're thinking is causation - what else is happening at those times/ Wtf is an 'inner soul'?? And no, when I'm scolded I'm usually pretty mad about it rather than 'secretly loving it'. That's some bullshit right there. Everyone can and should be open to good faith feedback, which may include being criticised or sco…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 09:33 AM
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The first advice would be to remove yourself from the forums and spaces etc that actually use 'beta' as a term. Take yourself out of spaces that reinforce the red pill ideas and espouse red pill tactics. Now you've learnt from experience that being 'beta' was actually what saved your relationship. Because being emotionally vulnerable and properly communicating isn't 'weak', it's healthy even though it's tough. And you know what most people call doing something that's tough but good for you - bei…
/r/ExRedPill27/09/20 04:56 PM
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I hate to say it but I think I need professional help. Not just for this but I think I have worthiness issues in general. Don't hate to say, you've identified an area you need help in and you can now act towards fixing it - that's great! I know it feels awful, but everyone deserves help and deserves to feel worthy of love, that includes you. There's absolutely no shame in needing a bit of help with these things, it really makes a big difference to have someone to talk through it with and to have…
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 10:28 AM
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Yeah, no. I am naked in front of my partner loads. He shares his feelings and fears with me loads. (The same is also true in reverse). Neither of us 'has' the other in like a power dynamic "gotcha" way that TRP seems to be talking about. We choose to be with each other, to give ourselves to the other person. But there is never a point where we could not take ourselves back. Basically the idea is that if you can get a women to want you sexually, then you can do pretty much whatever you want with …
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 07:18 AM
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Not disagreeing, just adding that my grandma used to say: 'Women can be alone, but men need someone' So that very anecdotal evidence may support your claim.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 07:10 AM
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The ability to get dates is one of those things where there are things you can control, and then there's a whole lot of chance. It's important, once you start dating, that when things don't work out you reflect on if it was chance or if it was something with you that caused it to not work out. Unless you are giving off massive red flags, most of the time it will be chance: you just didn't click with each other etc. Nothing you can do about that, sometimes you just won't be what someone is lookin…
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 07:07 AM
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I have previously asked him (multiple times) if he was taking his meds etc.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 09:15 PM
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I don't think people necessarily take what he's saying at face value. Definitely quite a few of us regularly point out flaws in his view points. Even in this instance I pointed out that this is straight up racism and has nothing to do with the red pill or feminists so I don't see what his point is. It was just that I replied to you rather than directly to him. Also to some extent I just don't bother replying to him sometimes because we established a while ago that his approach is to expect the w…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:53 PM
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