When does the wall happen

zoemondo · 2021-04-27T18:06:49+00:00

There is no wall.

There is an age where women can't bear children anymore, but that doesn't mean their lives are over. Nobody is worthless if they can't/don't have kids.

RedPillDetox · 2021-04-28T08:15:05+00:00

Depends on the level of mommy issues of the trper you ask...

If it's really that bad and deep - right after 23

If it's really bad - at 25

If it's the average endoctrinated trper with a revenge fantasy on whole of women and his head up his ass - at 30

Inareskai · 2021-04-27T16:53:47+00:00

I doubt there is consensus. Since 'the wall' doesn't exist it's hard to pin down.

cunningcaring · 2021-04-27T16:54:26+00:00

There is no wall. Open your eyes.

Comfortable_Intern57 · 2021-04-27T19:22:51+00:00

Most men's attraction ages along with them. If a guy is 50 and still only chasing women 30 years younger than him, then there is something seriously wrong with him. I see comments online from guys posting that a 40/50 year old woman is hot and the young teenage boys are like, ew gross, she's old. And the older men just say, wait till you get to my age..

The wall is just something they invented to make women panic and jump into abusive relationships with them out of desperation and fear of getting old.

HaymakerGirl2025 · 2021-04-27T21:41:35+00:00

I’ve long since hit the wall- and yet, I have more guys asking for dates than I can handle. So the red pillers can talk about it to their heart’s content, but in reality it has no meaning.

Neil12011 · 2021-04-27T22:37:29+00:00

I don’t have an strong opinion on this either way. There are hot older women, and yes males seem to come into their own as they age, mostly due to a compounding effect of effort and action. I think the wall signifies that for women, and society as a whole, youth and beauty are valued very highly. The saying is that a woman who’s in her 40’s can’t compete with her 20 year old self. Life is what you make it though.

atman714 · 2021-04-27T18:26:29+00:00

Most RedPillers I've seen will typically say 30-40. Rollo Tomassi has said that at age 23, men are just starting their slow ascent while women are peaking. Is there a consensus though? Not really, but there's also not really a "redpill consensus" on most things because they have no form of centralization. Just a loose group of coaches/lonely men giving "advice."

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-04-28T01:07:35+00:00

There's the fertility wall for women which hits not necessarily when they can't have kids anymore but past the point of having multiple children naturally, if the guy is somebody who wants a big family, which ties in to which guys would be willing to invest in terms of marriage

Then there's the looks wall which we all hit which is a combination of genetics and general self care, we are all generally in our physical prime from our late teens to about our late 20s but it varies, I've seen some women crash into the wall and it's pretty much over by 25, and I've seen some women that still inspire that lower waist stiffening when they are in their 50s, so it kind of just depends

MicahMX700 · 2021-05-08T17:55:16+00:00

I think it's just them trying to get a pass for hebophilia or ephebophilia. I've even heard women hit "the wall" at 16! WHAT THE FUCK! And it's always late 30's-50 year old man saying this shit too

imbecile_keshig · 2021-04-28T02:54:43+00:00

Everyone have the wall

pdmasta · 2021-05-02T19:42:22+00:00

I never understood this as a bad thing. Suppose it does exist, let's just pretend. I've slept with some nice looking 30 somethings... They know the game, generally aren't as insecure and have a life so they understand if it's just a one weekend romp.

Mom's are great. They are busy with the kids, and just need a nice hair pull and slap. No tricks, no lies. Smash n go.

Everyone wins.

PowerFastChampion · 2021-04-28T05:28:47+00:00

It isn't that women become "undesirable", it's that they have more baggage (emotional, physical, mental) and are then LESS desirable than women who may be in their early 20s and are still fertile, in their attraction peak (if they took care of their bodies), and not swimming in debt or 30+ years of bad habits. There's no consensus on the exact age the wall hits since everyone's physiology is different, but usually the large drop in fertility is a checkpoint due to extreme hormonal shifts.

I don't think this is something anyone disagrees with; as someone becomes less attractive physically and has more deeply ingrained [bad] habits, it becomes apparent that it's a fairly sadistic & masochistic decision to pick them over someone who doesn't have those same issues and may be a more loving, attractive, and supportive partner.

Shycel · 2021-04-30T09:20:21+00:00

In the late 20s

yeetboi_dangerous · 2021-04-30T14:38:18+00:00

The wall happens when one stops taking care of themselves physically and mentally. The wall is not exclusive to women either. It often happens faster because people get wrapped up in their careers which often I love sitting at a desk or physical labor so their bodies start to degrease because they’re not taking the proper time to take care of their health

Nasaro211 · 2021-05-10T13:15:47+00:00

Male sperm quality “hits the wall” also. It’s weird how some men think they are exempt from ageing.

NectarineLess · 2021-05-18T08:29:12+00:00

I think the wall is real, however not for the same reasons. I'm 32 M and the fact is I don't have any kids, and I'm pretty sure I'd still want some. The tough thing is I haven't had a lot of success with women and am not at all interested in raising someone else's kid. So if I were to get into a serious relationship, meaning with the intent of marriage, I'd try to with a younger lady closer to 22-27. If I had a kid and we're single I'd honestly prefer a woman my age.... It's just most women have a family my age not that anything is wrong with that I just can't bring myself to be a step dad...

I say all that to say there is a lot of value in a woman who can produce a family, and be attractive... The older you get the less likely you are to easily produce children. Also the less men are available(not married), the less our testosterone keeps us always pursing sex, and the less available men (who even want relationships)there are... so the attention young women get older women do not get at the same rate... And eventually it ceases. The wall is not fake, it may be exaggerated, but it's real I'd probably say if you're luck 40 is more realistic.

Worth_Research9497 · 2021-05-28T12:11:09+00:00

The fertility wall for women is 40s/menopause. Aside from that, aging is highly variable based on genetics and lifestyle, abs sometimes race. Black don’t crack kinda disproves the wall.

PlusFiveVorpalBunny · 2021-05-03T18:46:22+00:00

Ain't denyin' that women's looks often fade with age (damn, why do they have to do that?), but I know some really breathtaking older ladies all the same. Some really preserved their looks, some are really chill and positive and some just have that breathtaking feminine grace that a man knows and is shamelessly attracted to right away. Hell, one of the ladies I was most attracted to was around 50, but she was all three. Of course, she was also married... No, I didn't do anything. Husband was really cool too. Point is that the Wall exists to a degree, but ain't as big as a lot of people make it to be.

Title	When does the wall happen
Author	ZealousidealFig5
Upvotes	7
Comments	25
Date	April 27, 2021 4:46 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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