Why do people fall for this

RedPillDetox · 2021-05-18T15:34:59+00:00

No clue who that guy is

Zenia_neow · 2021-05-18T16:27:23+00:00

I've no idea honestly. Its something thats been bothering me for a while. Why do so many men want to believe that women should (and even want) to be dominated and controlled by men?

Its like when people used the Bible to justify slavery, PUAs now using cherry picked evolutionary psychology to prove women should be subordinate. But I feel like this is too simple of an explanation.

My closest guess to why they're obsessed with controlling and dehumanizing women is because they've built their identity on "not being women". As in they have no role model to tell them how to be a man, but they absolutely have a caricature of a woman, so they try everything possible to not be "the other". If women stop being their idea of a woman, their own identity as men crumbles. It like how a master can't really be a master if the slave doesn't acknowledge him as one.

xvszero · 2021-05-18T14:48:04+00:00

Because they're angry at women for some perceived slight and want to do anything other than acknowledge some part of it might have been their own fault.

Comfortable_Intern57 · 2021-05-18T16:06:53+00:00

People fought and died just to be able to look down on black people and keep them as slaves. Too many people want someone to look down on just to feel superior and for this guy and most of the people in red pill, this is what they do to women.

eliterule12 · 2021-05-18T17:11:50+00:00

i'm surprised Matt cross isn't more well known in the community because he seems like the definitive example on how problematic the red pill community is. on first glance he seemed like a respectful guy who said he doesn't want people hating on him or he doesn't want to hate on others. but in plenty of videos Matt seems to hate on people rather subtly and even seems to discourage other men from thinking for themselves.

the_C_Atheist · 2021-05-23T06:55:44+00:00

I hate Matt Cross as well! The mofo is the ultimate hypocrite - he says that you should be able to 'disagree respectfully' with him. Yet he has IMMENSE disrespect for anybody who doesn't fit his extremely rigid expectations of gender performance. He spews out a ton of misogyny and near-Taliban thinking on gender expectations. Which would make sense if he was REALLY a 1950s trad con man with a wife and children. But he isn't some traditional 50s family man. (NONE of the red Pill 'gurus' are - they're all degenerate hypocrites) He is a degenerate sexual libertine who spins plates, for crying out loud. He does not even uphold the 1950s gentleman values he keeps virtue signalling about yet he expects women to be these subservient trad con wives who get married at 20/21 while he himself isn't interested in marriage.Matt Cross even admits to hitting on other men's girlfriends, which makes him a real degenerate. He expresses anger at those women for being so disloyal to their boyfriends, but at the same time he doesn't mind enjoying their bodies. But hypocrisy is one of the key tenets of the red pill - there was another Aussie Red Piller who advised men to travel abroad to countries like Bali/Thailand/etc where they would be able to get laid because 'the women travellers are on holiday mood' and they have less inhibitions because they are travelling and there's no societal judgment on them. He says that as a man you SHOULD get lots of sex before settling down which is FINE if you also apply the same standard to women, but na ah - he thinks women must only have sex with their boyfriends. But if every woman only shagged within a relationship, like they demand, how are these red pill pickup dudes supposed to get their plates to spin in the first place? There is no logical cohesion.

reggae-mems · 2021-05-18T15:19:04+00:00

Misogyny is DEEPLY ingrained in our society. We dont see it so much bc we are used to it. But it has been a narrative for thousands of years that women are mens property and that they have to be meek and obedient. Changing the narratuve in just 100 years vs 2800 years of sexist tradition is HARD. And a lot of men who benefit from sexism dont want to step down from their position of priviledge bc equality often feels like opression to thosenin power. And to a lot of men, it feels nice and comforting to think that tradition were you had a free servant to obey you and fuck you sounded like an amazing deal.

Not going to lie, as a woman, the fantasy of having a hot guy cater to my needs, cook and clean the house that i owned, obey me and have sex with me when i wished sounds good! But it is dehumanazing if you make it anything else beyond a fantasy. Bc men are human too, and not slaves. And this is where this redpillers fail, they fail to recognize women as equals and or thinking human beings with needs and feelings. And altho i do not defend these assholes way of seeing women, it is important to see its not a "selfmade way of thinking". Society pushes men to see themselves as the default, and to not have to put themselves in womens shoes nor empathize with them, and this further helps them alianate ladies and see them as objects. How many men have to read a book in school from a girls pov??? How many women have to reed sexist books with a male narrator for school? How many action movies are made with women as the protagonist?? And i dont mean follow up movies like later star wars movies or ghost busters or birds of pray. I mean original stories. Books, videogames, movies or toys.

How many times are men forbiden to paint their nails and wear skirts?? Bc they might appear femenine? This only reinforces in their subcontious that "women bad" and "masqulinity good" and we see this in girls too!! How many times are women allowed to have pants, and sneakers and play soccer without being stigmatized? If anything women in buisness suits gets seen as cool and profesional but a man in a skirt is a joke. And this all promotes redpillers to think "women bad objects" and this is how we end up here. With men who have no women friends or whos experience with women has been limited, null or just bad. And with society wispering to them that YES men are the default, the smart and good sex. Its not hard for them to jump into this cult extremist thinking.

It feels nice to simplify this fenomenon as "me cant get peepee wet, wamen and feminism fault!!" Bc it "separates" us from these psychos, but we arent inmune to propaganda or society's messages about women

Mentallyillretard · 2021-05-18T23:32:53+00:00

Because he is targeting guys like me, or how i used to. Desperate but hopeful

One_Ad1283 · 2021-05-20T09:19:16+00:00

Looks like click bait to me. Doesn't look like he has anything original....just probably parroting what the others are saying and cashing in.

There's lots of money to be made dividing men and women as opposed to bringing them together. This why i quit listening....i mean where's their proof that their tactics will make anyone fall for me or chase. They have no proof..what are their creditials...i mean just because you have a camera and a youtube channel doesn't mean you're an expert.

demodawgz · 2021-05-23T21:32:29+00:00

Yes!!! I hate the comments - they are all so negative and nasty towards women.

ImLefty3 · 2021-05-18T21:21:44+00:00

Is that 33secrets or something like that?

thom92Pf3105 · 2021-05-18T15:00:17+00:00

desperation

ontheavenue123 · 2021-05-19T21:53:46+00:00

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Why do people fall for this

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Title	Why do people fall for this
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