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How did it come to this?

MeMyselfAndIAgaintU

July 31, 2019

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Title	How did it come to this?
Author	MeMyselfAndIAgaintU
Upvotes	8
Comments	33
Date	July 31, 2019 4:36 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/ckauw7/how_did_it_come_to_this/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/how-did-it-come-to-this.1064605 https://theredarchive.com/post/1064605

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[–]Aaod 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That place has been a shithole for a long time they banned their banner creator for drawing a communist style non sexual catgirl because catgirls are obviously sexist and objectify women. It wasn't even posted on their subreddit it was posted on some other site. Hell I got banned from that place because a mod stalked through my post history and saw I was a MRA despite me not even bringing it up in any of my posts in that subreddit.

Not the only place SJWs have taken over and ruined. I got a warning message and threatened to be banned for saying nigger. Why did I say it? I was on a gaming subreddit and talking about being an admin on a Team Fortress 2 server and banning racists who called people nigger. Lost Generation and late stage capitalism also got taken over by feminists who banned anyone who remotely disagreed with them. I only know of a single major subreddit the right did that sort of behavior on.

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[–]Badgerz92 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

[–]Kreeps_United -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

this is a sub for identity politics. On a sub for socialism, it should be less important than socialism.

Socialism is identity politics. Again, it can't work unless you take in other forms of oppression. Have you even read The Conquest of Bread.

and you can't do that unless you address men's issues too. Part of our hierarchy is that men are disposable, men are treated worse in the justice system, violence against men isn't taken seriously. How can we get rid of those hierarchies if feminists say it's misogynistic to talk about it?

Hey, you think they might say that because you say things like:

s opposed to supporting a bigoted movement like feminism.

Just a thought. When you try to convince them not everyone who talks about male issues is one of the bad ones, it helps to not be one of the bad ones.

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[–]Badgerz92 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Can you link me to the time I did that?

I can link you to the time you defended the people who spent years fighting against gender equality. And I can link you to the time when you said that opposing a bigoted hate movement is a bad thing.

who attack every other advocacy except that for straight white men

and now I can point you to a time when you created an absurd strawman to justify your own misandry. Are straight white men the only men who get raped? Are straight white men the only men who get discriminated against in the justice system? This is what we're talking about. You're identify politics and "intersectional feminism" lead you to saying things that don't even make sense because you're desperate to find a way to defend your narrow, bigoted viewpoints. You think that anybody who supports gender equality is a bad thing but since you can't defend that, you go on some off-topic rant about straight white men instead.

[–]Kreeps_United 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I can link you to the time you defended the people who spent years fighting against gender equality. And I can link you to the time when you said that opposing a bigoted hate movement is a bad thing.

Sure, love to see it.

Are straight white men the only men who get discriminated against in the justice system?

No, but you mentioned metoo and BLM as one of the groups you think engages in the bad identity politics... let me link that for you:

When you criticise anything from metoo or BLM or LGBT's: 'Oooh, funny how cishet white men think they know anything about this subject!' Don't tell me you never saw this comment, or think it is not typical for intersectional IdPol.

Since metoo, BLM, and the LGBT community includes men, that's three groups of men you didn't really care about until now.

You're identify politics and "intersectional feminism" lead you to saying things that don't even make sense because you're desperate to find a way to defend your narrow, bigoted viewpoints.

What are my viewpoints? Other than, "calling feminism a hate movement won't help men's issues get taken seriously" and "you can't pick and choose what oppressed groups you take seriously without being a hypocrite" I'm not sure I shared any.

And given that you had to resort to attacking me, I'll assume I was right on those.

[–]Badgerz92 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

[–]Kreeps_United 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You link doesn't show me doing what you said I did so...

that's not my username

Shit, you're right. My mistake.

the fact that you think that we shouldn't call a hate movement a hate movement is what I'm talking about.

Well, then demonstrate it's a hate movement. Not flawed, not a movement with a lot of annoying or misguided people, but a hate movement.

You believe that misandry is a good thing and that opposing misandry is a bad thing.

Links?

Unless you want to explain how you can support gender equality while also defending misandrists,

I never did that. Links?

or give me a reason why i'm "one of the bad ones" for calling misandrists misandrists.

I never said that either. I said you were one of the bad ones for treating all feminism like misandry because it's such a hyperbolic claim that it makes it harder to call out actual misandry. The only reason you would do something like that is if you actually didn't care about equality but was just an anti-feminist pretending to care about it. It's like you and the feminists who immediately try to shut down any talk of men's issues are on some Star Trek 6 shit.

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[–]Kreeps_United 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Identity politics is prevailing the narrative and 'lived experience' of 'marginalised groups' over other people,

Those marginalized groups are also the other people. "Lived experiences" is just another word for the things they go through, something we have to take into account if we want to change the world for the better. If you don't, then you're not really leftist.

like intersectional feminism does, often even wanting 'privileged groups' to shut up

A lot of feminists are members or privileged groups, most of the ones you have a problem with anyway. Yes, there are a lot of people misusing it, but you prove their point if you're only in favor of identity politics when it comes to working white heterosexual cisgendered white men. You're the one pushing people away from your cause and acting shocked when they see you as a bigot.

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