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Menslib developing empathy

Colombian-mra

July 15, 2020
18 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/hro90i/anyone_else_disturbed_by_the_reactions_to_that/

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Title Menslib developing empathy
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Colombian-mra

Upvotes 18
Comments 18
Date July 15, 2020 3:02 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/hrp5n8/menslib_developing_empathy/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/menslib-developing-empathy.1063119
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Comments

[–]Forgetaboutthelonely[M] [score hidden] 6 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

This is not the sub for "look at what x is doing" posts.

[–]BCRE8TVE 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

MEnslib might be developing empahty, but the mods area active as ever. So many deleted comments, with nary a reason given why.

Remember people, you can post all you want on menslib, but there'S a silent gestapo that will come for you if you stray from the ideological line, they'll delete your comments with no warning or reason given, and if you stray twice you're banned. Oh and if you try and bring attention to this fact you'll also be banned.

Menslib is showing empathy here because there'S no clear clash between men's issues and feminism. That's it. Menslib is a feminist sub first, defending women and feminism second, and dealing with men's issues being a distant third when it doesn't conflict with the prior 2.

It's good that they're seeing how messed up this particular situation is, thank goodness they're normal moral human beings, but none of that matters the moment women or feminism enters the picture, because then men's issues become a distant 3rd priority again, and the mod-stapo will delete anyone who dares deviate from accepted speech.

[–]Aaod 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

And yet people think I am being dramatic when I say the only way mens lives will improve is when feminism is a dead religion and thus attacking it is our best strategy.

[–]DevilComeKnockin[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's something much more powerful at work in society. Slowly, but with increasing velocity, men are starting to hold everyday women accountable for their actions. The "women are wonderful" effect is losing power "on the ground", so to speak.

[–]BCRE8TVE 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Honestly though feminism is great for women. We just have to make a men's movement (that isn't super sexist) to try and get men to improve men's lives, by pointing out that feminism is great for women but it's failing men.

We don't need to destroy feminism, we just need to say that feminism is for women, and they're more than welcome to do whatever they want with it, but men are going to do our own thing in our own way.

[–]Aaod 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah fuck that they make it so we can't be raped legally, fought against dual custody, fought against and protested domestic violence shelters for men (multiple times not just Erin Pizzey), fought to put innocent men in jail (Duluth model), fought obama on mens jobs, and tons of other things. Feminism is a cancer that needs to be stomped to death. The only way we will be able to work on our issues is after we kill feminism dead because otherwise it will fight us every step of the way.

[–]BCRE8TVE 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gonna say that not all feminists are like that, there are some good ones, but yeah the loud and toxic ones are louder and more easily sway politics unfortunately.

Let feminism do whatever they want to women, but we need a men's movement to support and protect men from feminism.

[–]Aaod 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but we need a men's movement to support and protect men from feminism.

I find it sad that that is legitimately true and needed like feminism could have been such a good thing! But we get the flaming aids dumpster pile that it is.

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if the existence of this sub will force them to clean up their act, or if they'll just double down on their current strategy of gaslighting men.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I am surprising about menslib and big joel calling out this nonsense of "men have to sacrifice themselves for women", i never thought i will see progressives not bashing men cause that is what they always do hence the existence of r/leftwingmaleadvocates.

It will be great if progressives were more open to men's issues instead of constantly demonizing us, i specially wish they stopped bashing white men, they are literally making it easier for the alt right recruits.

[–]NotAnAlternateID 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you look closely, you'll see once in a while r/menslib users do become self conscious.

There was this post about how the social media demonizes men and most of the top comments there were from feminists telling men to 'suck it up' and quite a few were from people realizing how fucked up the other comments were. Absolutely hilarious 😂😂

[–]BCRE8TVE 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Please tell me you have a link for that, I'd love to read it. I'm sure removeddit will also point out some interesting choice in which comments were removed.

[–]NotAnAlternateID 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

This link to an r/MensRights post about that r/MensLib post contains some removeddit links I suppose

[–]Alataire 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh my lord that original thread is Brilliant.

Are we allowed to be feminists or are we relegated to just allies?

Regardless, you can't expect your allies to stick around if you treat them like garbage.

98 upvotes.

And I expect allies to know the difference between venting about our oppression and hating all men.

This bit deeper down still got 34 upvotes though. I guess I can stop all my nuance and just vent shit like "YesAllWomen". Although I think only women are accepted to vent, because only they have a history of oppression and yadeyaya.

[–]NotAnAlternateID 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Told you😉, that thread was an absolute goldmine and shows everything that is wrong with that subreddit.

[–]HumanSpinach2 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MensLib is pretty staunchly against traditional gender roles, at least in theory. I'm not surprised at all they're talking about this.

Disclaimer: I post there

[–]Enzi42 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I read that thread and agree with a lot of it. I used to lurk over there for a long time until I just couldn't stand it anymore. I agree with a lot of what they're saying, and I suppose I can't say I'm surprised. This doesn't really fall under a men vs women/feminists vs men's rights area, more of a generalized sense of how men are treated and viewed, so I'm confident that they will have their heads firmly on straight when handling it.

And to be honest, anything will be better than some of what I've seen about that picture, including the many posts actually praising male disposability and the boy for knowing his so-called place in the world at an early age. Makes me want to take a shower.

[–]Alataire 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't this reinforcing the idea that what it takes to be a man is to be ready to give your life to someone else? Am I wrong to think that there's something really wrong in seeing a "man" in a child, due to the fact that he was willing to give his life for his sister?

Personally I see it as an acknowledgement of the role of men in society, it is an acknowledgement of the disposability of men. Even at that young age that boy is expected to potentially give up his life for his sister. Not because he is less likely to die, not because he is older, not because he is stronger. Just because he is a a boy.

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