Hello MGTOW, I decided to quit lurking and introduce myself. I'm a bit of an anomaly here. I had my 30th wedding anniversary in December. I'd gladly sign up for 30 more too. You might reasonably ask what I'm doing here if I feel that way. . Well, I see the end of my marriage coming, although not for the usual reasons. She is terminally ill. This isn't a shocking thing. The first warning sign was way back in our early 20's. We married at 19 and 17 years old. At 22 she went to the doctor to find out why no babies were showing up, and got the initial diagnosis. We have had lots of time to process. Up until recently her only symptoms were infertility, unusual fatigue, and pain. In the past year it's become obvious that she's on the downhill slide. . So, we have been doing the terrible chores of end of life planning. I've also been doing a lot of thinking about how I will shape my life after she is gone. . I always wanted children. I'm not 50 yet. My wife's first college degree is in finance and accounting, so I'm going to be pretty comfortably set up. It's not unreasonable to think that I could find a woman in her early 30's to give me children. So, with my wife's blessing and encouragement I started very discretely window shopping. What I discovered is this...the first time around, I won the friggin Powerball jackpot of the relationship world. I'm pretty confident that a repeat win is pretty much statistically impossible. . My wife and I are old school RPG gamer nerds. We run a Dungeons and Dragons gaming group, so I know lots of women in the target age group. The ones who aren't mentally screwed up with intersectional feminism, are straight up mentally ill. . They seem to believe that they have no obligation to maintain fairness and balance in a relationship, because patriarchy, that's why. I've watched the following things happen in my gaming group:
- Young man had a philosophical discussion about gender politics with one of the ladies. Just a polite debate. She got butthurt, and said she had to leave the group because he was a rape threat. .
- Another young man brought a date to the game. My "crazy alarm" went off 15 seconds offer looking her in the eye and shaking her hand. Within a month she had become abusive towards him because he wouldn't buy her stuff. He broke it off. She slashed herself up with a knife, and told police he did it. .
- Another young man, a very good looking young man got divorce raped after the 3rd child. She said she wasn't really into men, but was with him because of his looks because she wanted pretty babies. She had all the babies she wanted, so she was leaving to go live with her side girlfriend. He fought for joint custody and visitation, and got hit by a fake child abuse charge. . Gentlemen...I've had a wonderful 30 year marriage in which I've been generally happy, but that is not a feat that I believe I could recreate despite 30 years experience at relationship negotiation. I will enjoy the time I have left with her, after which I have no expectation of ever meeting a sane and dependable women who knows how to play fair again. I guess I'll just go my own way.
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Welcome.
Treasure her for as long as you can. As you've already learned, she'll likely be impossible to replace.
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YOU stay strong! ]=)
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2x new line for paragraphs.
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Sounds like a solid base for a romantic true story movie.
Welcome.
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Commendable. Especially because (from post) both. True partnership, sounds like you guys d
ido tango indeed.=] Lovely. Stubbornness.
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I've never been married but I've always believed that marriage would be far easier if women would just submit to men.
Obviously I don't mean this in an unreasonable sense, but in the way that a man should have legal and social dominion over his wife and household, as it was in ancient times.
The reason I think so many relationships fail today is that women are raised to be not just "independent" but are brainwashed to believe that submitting to a good man is somehow beneath them and degrading.
Meanwhile they themselves are ruled by their emotions and are largely incapable of leading a balanced life.
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I was like what is this, someone found an awalt unicorn?
All explained why she stayed a unicorn...
You wouldnt be shown any mercy if you were the one sick. Put that in your bluepill mind.
Sorry but someone had to tell you the truth.
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Im telling you that we are a product of our experiences. Since you are new here at least be humble and listen to what others have to say. Go study. We dont hate women here, we only acknowledge their nature. Their nature doesnt mean they cant act like your wife did. It is simply not their nature to stay attracted to weak dying men, whatever you say past this wont make a case for you. It was reported that even though many wives stay around in moments of weakness from their partners, the first thing that they feel when a partner is sick is huge tingles to go find a new healthy man, so much for your unicorn. And then if discovered they will say this "I did it to save our marriage" "We were in a weak position" "It made me feel better" I mean this is not even a cliché boy... It is the laws of nature, and you cant blame women, just like you cant blame a snake for biting you.
I repeat have you gotten sick and her never getting sick the story could be different. We dont trully know exactly what she did behind your back or how she felt about you during those times, all we know is that when a man cheats its quite obvious because he needs to sharp up...women just need to be there and open the legs.
You as a man, you feel attracted to women that are smaller and weaker than you. If the woman gets sick, loses her job, etc...etc... the male is instinctively protective, and his attraction to her as well as is loyalty wont change for that, and it wont change also if he cheats on her. You cant say the same thing about women. So if you came here to humble brag about your unicorn wife, too bad, I dont buy it. There are no nawalts and no unicorns just women who were in different situations and positions and therefore act accordingly on their nature. In the recent times all the new wave of anti-feminists are not good hearted women, are just women who realized that feminism is hurting them...or that anti-feminism now gets them attention.
A married man saying he is happy with her wife like a slave that even loves his plantation is a cliché. How can a man be happy if he depends on a woman for that happiness, he is half a man. I can tell you more. A man is always an asset to a woman. Thats why it was said here that you are more likely to be divorced raped if you are rich, instead the poor will just be monkey branched. You are always an asset until something else is found.
Even a master will feed and pay the medical bills of his slave.
In the modern age only cucks get married. If you dont realize this, women certainly do. If her loyalty is just a product of her generosity, why do you want it. As if i would accept having someone holding a gun at me and not shooting based on generosity... Thats all you can say man... i was lucky to find a unicorn who didnt shoot me in the modern age, suck it up mgtows...
They are always unicorns until you come here crying and complaining...
If she wants to cheat on you, and divorce rape you, its 100% within her power, and yet you dont see how you accepting that is weakness. And you cant do anything about it. What are you going to do or say? That she wont do it to you, because you are better or luckier than others? What does that tell you about yourself? Who would accept that...Thats why women hate modern married men, they know you are weak cucks.
Married men post 2010 are proud cucks. Even if she cooks for you, you are still her dog, and any man who belongs to one woman is not a free man.
I dont hate women, i hate bluepill men. I hate lies. I hate cucks. Thats it.
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Man, your post is the only one telling it like it is. Everyone else seems to be just "one blowjob away from the plantation" mgtow men who are praising him for finding a unicorn.
The first thing that any redpill man should notice from OPs story is that she is infertile. That's why she didn't go full on hypergamy and monkey branching mode. She is a fringe case, not the norm.
If she had been completely healthy I have no doubt OP's marriage could have gone in a very different direction. Maybe even like that third story where the guys wife left him after getting her 3 pretty babies.
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I wish you both the best of happiness for the time you have left, hoping it'll be longer than expected. Be strong and be well, friend.
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Again complex of superiority/inferiority from married men. I dont care about your experiences. I have vastly more experience than you. You as married man unless you cheated on her i definitely had more than you and saw stuff that you didnt see... There is no butthurt. Most mgtows are guys that had enough of women, you are mistaking mgtows for incels or tfls. Which to be honest and this is my personal view, a tfl man its hardly going to be a mgtow, because he didnt see with his own eyes.
So you agree with me that all women are bad and your wife in particular happen not seem bad because of her background. But this often changes. Like that thing that became a meme, of the asian women being angels until they step on western soil...
White knight detected.
Cringe.
You have nothing on this sub... Put that in your Original post, and nobody will upvote you.
You have 0 responsability in defending a woman. You are the reason why the problems exist. As long as we have whiteknights like you, they can recruit as long as they play along, and you and others will never know the truth, because you are cannon fodder.
Its only you who should be butthurt. Because in your days there was no mgtow, and you the pressure to marry was huge. Right now its common sense and everyone is going mgtow easy. Plus i had plenty of sex in my teens, a thing you could only dream of in your tradcuck times, and that is enough reason for a man to see no reason to commit. Why would we? I had everything you had plus more and more without putting any effort. Let that sink in.
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