Anyone Else Socially Withdrawn?

Diam35 · 2017-10-06T09:49:53+00:00

Well once you get a glimpse of how people really work, you can't stand most of them, but aside from that, the mystery element is gone, so I think it's totally normal.

weaklion · 2017-10-06T10:15:10+00:00

I do want to interact with people from time to time. But unfortunately, people have this tendency to pull you in and interact with them more that you want to - and also try to get something out of you, more than just that mutual, friendly, human interaction. They start to consider you as a resource. Females primarily, but also males.

The mark of a good "leader" in todays world is measured by how much he's able to manipulate others into providing their surplus mental capacities for him. With results such as "corporate team building experiences". Fuck that shit.

I neither want to be that kind of person (which likely correlates to the dark triad stuff) nor do I want to be on the exploited side.

If I provide something for humanity, I want to sell my work, insights or whatever solely as a product - I don't want to get into the social angle of things, knowing full well that the sum of interaction with others who try to milk you, even if you are able to escape their siren calls, will still wear you out in the end.

I feel being alone allows me to regain some kind of quiet, centered inner-balance. Sweet solitude.

Something in me gets seriously out of whack when I am around people too much. Like, if I am honest, I for example get very aggressive and annoyed and stressed if I am around people too much.

In my youth, that lack of space, that lack of solitude was something I very clearly felt. But notice the blue pill programming on this: "No man is an island! Humans are social animals!" etc.

And also on that front, I feel I was brainwashed against my inner, real nature - as I tried to conform and that only made me angry.

In my youth that was picking verbal fights with my family and friends when I had that kind of lack of solitude.

As a still blue-pilled grown up, that kind of inner aggression became directed more against myself: Lack of solitude makes me insanely stressed now. But then I also know better now.

There's also the inevitable bias in the brainwashing: You won't find too many people who live in solitude telling you how it is, because by the very nature of it, most interactions with people are of course with those that can't even fathom to be alone. The internet changes that a bit, as you can be in solitude (essentially) and still post on some forum from time to time.

Sure enough: When I get away from the city and into solitude: The first hours or the first day or so, I do have this nagging feeling of "aloneness".

But that's the point: I now know that this feeling is fleeting and that after that, the sweet parts of solitude, those that I do long for, set in.

For me it is all interaction on my terms: I want to decide how much I interact with people.

For example, take this subreddit. It is, though very remote, still interaction with people. On my terms. I can just shut down the computer and do whatever I want.

ZealousMathematician · 2017-10-06T05:29:33+00:00

Don’t worry. It’s part of gaining all those benefits...

2017-10-06T09:49:43+00:00

I find GMOW made me more intellectual. I read more books, and i've started more programming projects. Currently working on a large open source DB system as a hobby. All in the C language, I freakin love C.

morire44 · 2017-10-06T06:50:45+00:00

Yup, feeling like I gotta keep the solitude in check to avoid potentially harsh outcomes.

svgelife · 2017-10-06T10:00:13+00:00

Yeah man.

Have been for years, it's made me a better person not relying on others though.. The older i get the more i just don't like people that much anymore lol.

nonax · 2017-10-06T12:15:52+00:00

i'm withdrawn and prefer to be alone, but i can fake it perfectly fine in social situations, it's just a stupid game.

92317 · 2017-10-06T12:21:27+00:00

There's nothing wrong with not being able to deal with the chaotic life nowadays.

People who do not think for themselves and don't have the time to just sit down once in a while are easier to control and manipulate.

Besides that, they need more and more impulses and products to deal with life.

The people who run this world love these brainless worker-bees.

delithug · 2017-10-06T08:13:36+00:00

I've always been a bit of a loner, probably partly because I was homeschooled until high school. However, after going to public school and then college I'm more reclusive than ever.

scooter_1975 · 2017-10-06T09:25:21+00:00

Yeah, I'm feeling the social isolation, too. I feel that once I gave up on the narrative, most people's boring-ass life sucks, and doesn't interest me. So I go find people, things, and activities that do interest me. But for the most part, everyday people I meet just don't even blip on the radar.

_________________666 · 2017-10-06T09:59:19+00:00

Pretty much, but I've always been a kinda misanthropic loner so I'm fine with solitude.

IndistinguishableNut · 2017-10-06T10:38:37+00:00

I am.

Simple, people are so boring.

mountain_anchorite · 2017-10-06T11:17:26+00:00

It takes a major effort on my part to communicate with people these days. I avoid talking and being visible, if I can; I hardly socialize anymore, I am more and more withdrawn into myself. The society tires me, causes me to feel mentally fatigued. I enjoy being alone, where I can read, listen to the music, write, hike, run, and just be the servant of my own heart's desires, withou the need to justify to anyone, especially some self-entitled woman what gives me purpose.

This reminds me of Gustav Mahler's lied about solitude:

https://youtu.be/vTqbTP5qy7k

This is the English translation of the verses which were written, and here performed, in German:

I am lost to the world

with which I used to waste so much time,

It has heard nothing from me for so long

that it may very well believe that I am dead!

It is of no consequence to me

Whether it thinks me dead;

I cannot deny it,

for I really am dead to the world.

I am dead to the world's tumult,

And I rest in a quiet realm!

I live alone in my heaven,

In my love and in my song.

laere · 2017-10-06T15:27:14+00:00

I pretty much went lone wolf after college. I socialize with the people I work with at work. Outside of work I don't socialize at all. All of my friends growing up got married/GF's and you know how it ends there. Hard to find like minded people.

Every guy I've met is obsessed with pussy to the point of destroying friendships for 10 minutes of a fleeting pleasure. I have no issues being alone, I like to be able to do what I want when I want, work on hobbies, learn new shit, etc.

Ineedabetternametoo · 2017-10-06T11:30:13+00:00

Omg yes. I still have the usual shooting the breeze convos with my buddies, but I've accepted the fact that I'll never be able to have a real conversation with another person about any of the crazy shit that's been flying thru my brain in the last 3 months.

So I'll just enjoy my solitude. It's amazing.

Iamverydrunknow · 2017-10-06T11:44:44+00:00

I think that's the inevitable result of looking behind the curtain. If you share your newfound insight you will l8kely be shunned. So you hold it out of necessity. This wears you down: not being able to really communicate as you would if you could. That is why anonymity like here is essential. Otherwise all those motherfucking white knights would make your life a living hell.

Booshank25 · 2017-10-06T11:49:15+00:00

Yep and you're correct. I'm fundamentally a different person to myself of just 5-6 years ago. One consequence of that is existing social networks slowly disintegrated as we became incompatible.

I'm becoming more myself every day and it's great!

2017-10-06T10:45:05+00:00

Yeah, and then you face your existential crisis. I have lost so many friends, simply from maturing, getting healthy, doing fasting; I have no interest in my old friends. Dogs or cats are great buddies though.

comptejete · 2017-10-06T11:11:39+00:00

While I understand your rationale and motivation, I think it is sometimes helpful for your own sanity to force yourself outside of the comfort zone of your own solitude and interact with other people. Even if it is something banal like small talk about the weather, being locked inside your own thoughts constantly is not necessarily healthy.

MidWestAussie · 2017-10-06T13:20:10+00:00

I find the irony in this situation, in that going MGTOW usually has you not giving a flying fuck what others think of you. There lies the secret X factor in being a true Alpha Male.

Beta Simp = Desperately worries about what his girl (woman he's orbiting) thinks about him.

Bad Boy = Doesn't care what his girl (fuck buddy for that week) thinks about him.

True Alpha Male = Doesn't care what ANYBODY thinks about him and he goes his own way!

Pray2s8n · 2017-10-06T15:22:53+00:00

Yes, but I have always been an introvert. As a teen, (long before I ever got my first girlfriend) I was completely content to stay home, read books, learn coding, make music or pursue any number of other interests most of the time.

Then, in my 20s/early 30s it was all about drinking, drugs, shows and partying. Still not too many women due to the introversion, however.

Now, in my mid-40s, my "partying" days are long gone. I look forward to Friday night so I can cook a decent dinner, then fire up my music gear, and maybe watch some Netflix later before reading some more of whatever book I'm currently working on before retiring for a good night's sleep.

My oldest and best friend, who I used to hang out with at least weekly for drinks, shows or music jams has gone and gotten himself a very demanding job (and a girlfriend, FFS) so even hanging out with him is more infrequent.

LawlessDestiny · 2017-10-06T15:29:14+00:00

It's the opposite for me. I grew up very very shy but now I say fuck it. While I am pretty eccentric I just embrace it now. Before I would fear being judged poorly but now I don't give a shit. If you don't like me, fuck you. The way I am is the right way to be for me and fuck your whole life and everyone in it if you don't like it. I talk when I need to and want to but I've never been one to make small talk just to do it. At one point I thought it's what I had to do but I've accepted that I enjoy my silence. If you find that awkward again... fuck you. Not you, the reader, just you in general.

WhistlingAlong · 2017-10-06T13:48:32+00:00

I've been like this since my teens and I actually don't like it as I'm an extrovert and I really enjoy social events. The issue is that I do have a higher intelligence and eccentric and eclectic tastes and everyone else is bland and uninteresting. Most of my acquaintances are blue pilled simps and that slows me down I don't want to hear their crying.

My ideal was to find a girl who's like me and like cool things, go out dancing, go on trips. Basically a woman version of me who's also hot yet humble but I am okay with mgtow and myself! This is a very good lifestyle choice.

2017-10-06T11:28:15+00:00

I suppose that's the consequence of becoming an individual.

That's why - they're part of the Borg.

robowriter · 2017-10-06T11:50:35+00:00

I just don't care. I'm not going to socialize with the coffee klatch. I go about my business and ignore most of what goes on. There's a few people I like and if they need help OK, the rest of them I don't care. I have a few women friends, grateful for mgtow, but I ignore others and their continual bullshit. Fuck it

1DGL · 2017-10-06T12:59:09+00:00

Socialising shouldnt be painful unless youre sick. Focus on your health guys who are suffering from anxiety. Eat whole foods only

LuckyDuck99 · 2017-10-06T13:19:35+00:00

As an Only Child I can confirm I've always been this way.

5foot2introvert · 2017-10-06T14:49:01+00:00

I need solitude, I personally don't like being around people for long periods of time, it drains the shit out of me, to be completely honest most people are narcissistic as hell. Something about being alone and having my own time to myself really excites me, can't say the same when I'm around other people.

holdthehodor90 · 2017-10-06T14:59:09+00:00

i don't trust women because women. i don't trust men because they do whatever the fuck women want.

BigJim05 · 2017-10-06T15:50:45+00:00

I've always been more of an introvert. I picked up and moved to a non-English speaking country (Mexico) and have been able to tolerate it I think more than most Americans would for this reason. I now work remote, live a wonderful life, and get tons of pussy. All this MGTOW stuff is a distant memory but I still like to follow it.

frankmarlowe · 2017-10-06T11:08:11+00:00

Always have been to a degree. Part of me wonders if I might be on the autism spectrum somewhere. I'm old enough it wouldn't have been diagnosed in school.

DonaldTrumpsWaifu · 2017-10-06T11:28:21+00:00

Have been all my life. Gotta thank autism for that.

DWShimoda · 2017-10-06T12:53:40+00:00

Anyone else find that they have become socially withdrawn, eccentric, and/or incapable of relating to others as a result of going their own way?

I doubt that this is REALLY (and certainly not SOLELY) a result of GYOW.

It is in fact much more mundane than that -- a big part of it is simply getting older and living in the world of "adults" rather than school-children.

Another large part of it is simply that people in western societies -- for all the activity/interaction on so called "social networks" (fakebook etc) -- are in fact increasingly WITHDRAWING from actual "in person" socializing.

Then, there is the inevitable fact that a significant portion of your friends will essentially "shift" from socializing with others their own age... to family & tending to children (whether formally "married" or not).

BTW the same thing happens with those who ARE married or "in a relationship" and/or have kids (their own or someone elses) -- they too grow increasingly "isolated" and withdrawn.

Sumo94 · 2017-10-06T13:43:00+00:00

Hell yeah. I'm starting to find most people's conversations topics too shallow.

Solstus22 · 2017-10-06T14:49:39+00:00

Sometimes, but if anything; whenever people want me to be sociable, I just 'act' the part.

Avery_Atherton · 2017-10-06T15:04:32+00:00

I’m very socially withdrawn due to traumatic events in my life.

As Daniel Plainview said in There Will Be Blood...There are times when I look at people and I see nothing worth liking.

DagonNaxos · 2017-10-06T16:14:28+00:00

MGTOW didn't cause it for me. Ive always been awkward, angry, withdrawn and anti-social. MGTOW just kind of put the pieces together for me and accelerated the evolution. I used to be a pussy craving beta orbiter. Now, I barely speak to anyone except a few very close friends, almost none are women.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-10-06T17:05:28+00:00

this is wisdom.

zRaXcPk · 2017-10-06T17:32:14+00:00

It's hard once you see people for what they really are. I'm friendlier than ever with men and it has shown me how cool we truly are. Women on the other hand.... not worth any effort whatsoever. I don't even speak to them unless they speak directly to me and I try to answer as monosyllabically as possible. Her question and my yes or no is my ideal conversation with a female. Wear dark sunglasses as much as you can get away with so they can't say you're staring at them etc. It's all about protecting yourself when swimming with sharks.

johnnyblorf · 2017-10-06T12:31:29+00:00

Yeah, most things that people do outside of work don't interest me. Sports might, but there are only clubs with mixed teams.

nigelh · 2017-10-06T13:46:58+00:00

There are several things I do that involve other people and several that benefit from being alone. I like my diving club, I enjoy running a boat and just signed up for the Christmas Dinner but when I want to read a book I shut the door and pause the phone.

MaximusMakani · 2017-10-06T13:47:47+00:00

I'm going through a rough patch financially, but once I'm out of it, I'll be building up a social life again. However, it'll be hanging out with men who have similar interests. No pandering to bitches.

As for bitches, I'll play them, but won't let them come back to my place. I'll find other places to bang them. Don't want them to know where I live. My home is set up for my needs and I'm not going to accommodate bitches.

ravenswin · 2017-10-06T13:56:29+00:00

I was for a little bit, but I can function socially when I want to. Just remember: they want us to think we are alone and our ideals are nowhere but in our heads. When nothing can be further from the truth. We are out in public and you'll never know where. You are not alone.

That doesn't mean everyone agrees with us. The same sort of silent support is silent support against us (basically, agents) of people who are not unplugged

lolklolkgf · 2017-10-06T16:53:18+00:00

Yes.

When you deviate from the norm so much, it is social suicide to get involved in most normal conversations. You will be quickly ostracized from social groups for voicing your differences in lifestyle.

Believe it or not, the majority of people you come across are thick as pig sh!t anyway.

It doesn't help when you openly call people retards for being married and spending £130 on a pair of trainers for some woman. Hahaha.

lolklolkgf · 2017-10-06T16:57:03+00:00

Or there's the question you get asked..."Are you happy?". To which I reply "Not now I've seen your face you ugly c*nt."

cleats4u · 2017-10-06T19:05:09+00:00

I've found that I simply do not give a shit about hardly anything. Christmas? Thanksgiving? WTF is that? Saved myself about 1500.00. Birthdays? Anniversaries? Depending on how many people involved I saved another 3000.00. Boss at work wants to fire me SFW I have lots of "fuck you" money. I have a completely different mind set and I wouldn't call it socially withdrawn. More like liberated.

ItsFinish · 2017-10-06T19:26:18+00:00

you guys probably dont know, but there's a spiritual teacher called Adyashanti, when he was asked during an interveiw if he liked socializing.. he said nah, im really a hermit kind of person.

hed_fuc · 2017-10-06T19:38:20+00:00

I have noticed or people have noticed about me. They find that I don't disclosed my life to them as much as if I give a fuck and if it's none of their business. Most of the people, men and women alike, love gossip and shit talking. Most have nothing to talk about except other people. I usually do my own thing and could care less about social gatherings. Weddings are the worst. I hate them But since leaving the plantation, you're no longer part of the collective thus, you are your own individual.

Mr-5-5 · 2017-10-06T22:52:30+00:00

Buy a love doll, she will understand.

I can see society's bluepill lies and insane contradictions thanks to mgtow.

Camp_KillYourself · 2017-10-07T01:17:41+00:00

I went to a movie by myself. At first, I thought this was a really strange behavior and then I realized no one cared, no one bothered me, no one irritated me driving on the way there or back, didn't have to pay for someone else. It was nice.

claydn · 2017-10-07T02:40:51+00:00

I am. Damn. Good to know others going through it too.

riki12345 · 2017-10-07T05:38:55+00:00

Yeah its one of the downsides. I realized my conversational skills dropped. Got to get it back up

11101000 · 2017-10-08T00:43:41+00:00

Yes and it's great. I mean,I interact well as its part of my job. At home though, I have a few mates swing by and my kids occasionally. The rest of the time I focus on improving skills and knowledge related to my career and working on cars.

I did attempt to maintain a social life but found I wasn't getting enough projects completed,. And, socialising is pretty exhausting, having to pretend to care and listening to people complain about problems they don't have the balls to fix themselves.

csehszlovakze · 2017-10-06T18:39:04+00:00

guilty as charged!

superfjant · 2017-10-07T00:32:55+00:00

For me it's the complete opposite. I get invited to gatherings more and get laid more often.

Anyone Else Socially Withdrawn?

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Title	Anyone Else Socially Withdrawn?
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Date	October 6, 2017 5:22 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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