I'm new to this sub (but not to the concept) and to me I'm sorry to say but it sounds like insurrectionary shilling that's going on. I've been on so many forums and subreddits and the one truth that I've always seen is that race is a ridiculously subversive and pointless issue that completely poisons a community and eventually destroys it. It creates in-fighting like no other issue. If this continues, say good bye to this sub and all that it could've created.
Be very very wary of racial discussion on a sub that has nothing to do with that. It's highly possible it's a concerted effort to undermine the community.
Yep, and then it becomes another way for opponents to easily discredit the movement. They'll say this is simply where the angry racist "cis white males" are hiding and it will be hard to shake off that label. They did the same with the online atheist movement and it was sad to see it get conquered by this bullshit. It doesn't matter what they think, really but it matters when the potential MGTOWer looks us up and finds articles claiming it's all a bunch of racist misogynists and they get turned off from wanting to learn more. Don't anyone believe it. Don't fall for this old divide and conquer technique.
You're right, and it's just a handful of bigots who hate black people. They don't get much love around here, same as those white nationalists who talk shit about Jews with their ((( signs. No need for a concern post though, overall we're doing fine in this area, and the people who you are directing this to, won't listen.
I can't. I don't live where there is any kind of noticeable black people. But I do know that all men are being fucked over by a system that is designed to make us all slaves. We should all be just going our own way as men. Making MGTOW about race is irrelevant, don't you see?
I'm not speaking for you guys that have a beef with a proportion of your community, be they black, white, green or rainbow. You deal with that yourselves in your own way. I'm not speaking for you about race or religion, I'm not speaking about it AT ALL. I suggest you bring it up with the people in your community. MGTOW is not a religious or political movement, it's not a movement at all. It's simply men talking about how and why they are going their own way in life with respect to being red pilled. It's about being your own man and becoming as self sufficient as you can. Don't make it something it isn't.
I told you what I think MGTOW is. It's not an activist organization. It's 10 or 20 dudes doing their thang with idagf attitude. The rest are in the wrong place. Lol
Everyone seems to want to turn MGTOW into a movement with an agenda. We are not 'exerting our rights' as you put it, we are just not getting married or cohabitating with anyone. You won't find us signing petitions, protesting in the street and burning flags. We are passive and defensive. That's all we are doing, and getting on with our lives.
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Seems to be just in the last few days I've noticed it. This is one - https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/6ga0dv/fatherless_friday_not_sure_who_the_father_is_but/diomsoe/
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I'm new to this sub (but not to the concept) and to me I'm sorry to say but it sounds like insurrectionary shilling that's going on. I've been on so many forums and subreddits and the one truth that I've always seen is that race is a ridiculously subversive and pointless issue that completely poisons a community and eventually destroys it. It creates in-fighting like no other issue. If this continues, say good bye to this sub and all that it could've created.
Be very very wary of racial discussion on a sub that has nothing to do with that. It's highly possible it's a concerted effort to undermine the community.
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I agree. That's why this post is so important. I hope it gets to the top of the pile.
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Yep, and then it becomes another way for opponents to easily discredit the movement. They'll say this is simply where the angry racist "cis white males" are hiding and it will be hard to shake off that label. They did the same with the online atheist movement and it was sad to see it get conquered by this bullshit. It doesn't matter what they think, really but it matters when the potential MGTOWer looks us up and finds articles claiming it's all a bunch of racist misogynists and they get turned off from wanting to learn more. Don't anyone believe it. Don't fall for this old divide and conquer technique.
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SJW concern trolling...
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You're right, and it's just a handful of bigots who hate black people. They don't get much love around here, same as those white nationalists who talk shit about Jews with their ((( signs. No need for a concern post though, overall we're doing fine in this area, and the people who you are directing this to, won't listen.
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This isn't a thing here.
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Stop making it about race. Just stop.
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I can't. I don't live where there is any kind of noticeable black people. But I do know that all men are being fucked over by a system that is designed to make us all slaves. We should all be just going our own way as men. Making MGTOW about race is irrelevant, don't you see?
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I'm not speaking for you guys that have a beef with a proportion of your community, be they black, white, green or rainbow. You deal with that yourselves in your own way. I'm not speaking for you about race or religion, I'm not speaking about it AT ALL. I suggest you bring it up with the people in your community. MGTOW is not a religious or political movement, it's not a movement at all. It's simply men talking about how and why they are going their own way in life with respect to being red pilled. It's about being your own man and becoming as self sufficient as you can. Don't make it something it isn't.
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It's only political if you make it so. You are wasting your time here though, go to the Mens Rights sub.
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I told you what I think MGTOW is. It's not an activist organization. It's 10 or 20 dudes doing their thang with idagf attitude. The rest are in the wrong place. Lol
Everyone seems to want to turn MGTOW into a movement with an agenda. We are not 'exerting our rights' as you put it, we are just not getting married or cohabitating with anyone. You won't find us signing petitions, protesting in the street and burning flags. We are passive and defensive. That's all we are doing, and getting on with our lives.
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Because you're probably not a "hyper-anxiety-ridden" PC/SJW type who quakes at the idea of being called "Raysciss" like /u/Whiskeybandit67 is.
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There would not be any civilization without religion to structure it first.
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Thank you. Yes.
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Thank you. Yes. And fuck whichever cunt downvoted my comment. lol
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