Dear Tradcons, please swallow the red pill or move on to another community. MGTOW is not tradcon. You are the ultimate blue pills.

mrscene1 · 2017-10-05T20:17:42+00:00

'In all honesty, feminism benefited men.' Reminds me of a quote by a smart man: "Feminism didn't remove the shackles women thought they were wearing, it removed the shackles men didn't know they were wearing".

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SalidaDelEuro · 2017-10-05T20:37:00+00:00

Mgtow is postfeminist not antifeminist. (Barbar digital)

sonic1101 · 2017-10-05T22:48:09+00:00

Exactly. Tradcons believe in all the wrong things. They are FOR marriage (as long as they change the laws). They are AGAINST porn and often promote "nofap" so you become sexually enslaved to women again. They are FOR circumcision which reduces masturbation satisfaction. They are always talking about "manning up". They are worse than white knight cucklords.

secant128 · 2017-10-05T20:39:55+00:00

Very true indeed. Thats why I consider those tradcon anti feminists are more dangerous than feminists imo. Feminists are at least honest and show their true face. Tradcons use traditional values to enslave men just like wolf in sheep's clothing. A bunch of disgusting hypocrites who just want patreon money from thirsty cucks and manginas.

TigPlaze · 2017-10-05T21:22:41+00:00

Well said. I'm not going to work my ass off to support some entitled and ungrateful bitch.

Hippotatamus · 2017-10-06T02:11:06+00:00

Tradcon ideology, if done correctly can be good.

Basically, the format I can see working is

Man provide, woman raise kids. Man go to work, woman manage house and kids. Man provide moneys, while woman provide emotional support and sex.

Like in the old time.

The problem I see current Tradcon is having is they are a bit unfair in determining what man and woman should do and what they contribute in the relationship. Most of the time, tradcon focusing on what man should do and contribute, and rarely speak about what woman should do and contribute.

It is very ironic that you cannot force your wife to have sex, it count as rape, but at the same time we man cannot have sex with another woman since that's cheating.. Polygamy isn't a choice either..

And guess what, the only thing man ask from woman is sex. Not house. Not Car. Not six number salaries. Not emotional support. 30 minutes of fun time twice a week apparently is asking too much.

At the same time, man have to provide for woman, give her all everything from materials to emotional needs. Which take shitload amount of effort to manage. If not, the she'll divorce you and take more than half of your current and future assets.

HowlSkank · 2017-10-06T03:10:15+00:00

One man's "slavery" is another man's noble, masterful, godly existence. It's called going YOUR own way...and as you said, it's about INDIVIDUALITY. So for the love of Christ, stop bashing people who pursue their own version of an ideal, masculine existence. The shallowness of your intellect is sad. The wise man knows but that he knows naught; this being so, he listens far more than he speaks.

comptejete · 2017-10-06T01:42:33+00:00

Tradcons don't believe in male slavery. They believe that male sweat should be rewarded with loyalty and respect. As it used to be. At least, as they think it used to be. Men are increasingly noticing however that the good old days were not so golden.

TheJamesRocket · 2017-10-06T02:40:54+00:00

Fucking tradcucks. Will they ever give up?

ZeroBlink · 2017-10-05T20:20:47+00:00

I always describe it in this way :
"They make the right arguments for the wrong reasons."
eg. Patriarch hurts men...
corrected:
Gynocentrism hurts men.

Original_Username7 · 2017-10-06T02:23:41+00:00

Stop fooling yourselves. Today's tradcon is just yesterday's liberal. The Red Pill mindset is just an attempted exponential swing back to some of the traditional ways that came long before today's tradcons, who espouse very little that is truly traditional or conservative anymore. The foundational writing/scriptures of today's tradcons are WAY more extreme than they themselves are, writings which actually cause tradcons to cringe and be offended when quoted to them and translated in their original form. How do I know? I'm surrounded by and deal with them every day.

Fussbus · 2017-10-05T21:57:48+00:00

For that reason, I hope for more feminism. Let's get radical feminism. Because then more of our brothers eyes will be opened.

-- Depends on which kind of "radical feminism" you're talking about...

REAL radical feminism calls for the castration and/or even outright elimination (euthanasia/killing) of over 80% of males.

Technically that would mean a lot of very CLOSED eyes.

-- But hey... why not join them? And there's no nee to wait -- you can be in the forefront -- and do that now! Put on a dress, beat them to the punch with the castration part -- chop off your own twig & berries -- and become a woman yourself? You can just be a lesbian and still munch on the pussy-muff-burgers all you want (presuming of course that once you lost your balls you would want anything at all).

darkrood · 2017-10-06T04:10:02+00:00

It basically asks freed slaves to go back to plantation by spouting "well, things are not all bad, and you can always make it better :D"

tribalbandit · 2017-10-05T20:56:59+00:00

Fuck off. I certainly don't embrace the total meltdown that leads to anarchy and the absence of base necessities. I do not embrace wondering if the law is going to be against me today because some bitch didn't get her way. I do not embrace paying for women and children (especially bitches I don't know), let alone for shit I can't afford for myself like healthcare.

How bout you do you and quit worrying about who is here. Don't see me creating any threads to talk of stupid fucks like yourself who are to stupid to understand what a total meltdown in logic and structure will bring.

robowriter · 2017-10-05T22:56:10+00:00

A lot of them trapped, but I've had some friends listen. Mgtow needs to rescue them when their young before he forgets to wear a raincoat during the hot floppy.

DWShimoda · 2017-10-06T04:11:54+00:00

Looks like the invasion of the TeRP'er/PUA/feminazi's is growing gutsier.

Keep "lifting" and chasing after your idolized pussy... maybe one day you'll get some for real (or maybe it will get you, same difference really).

blackierobinsun3 · 2017-10-05T23:17:50+00:00

whatever makes women not cheat im with

balancedben · 2017-10-06T04:23:54+00:00

"It encourages women to withold sex from men (raising the cost of it) in hopes that men will be motivated enough by their dick to become enslaved to women."

When a woman withholds sex she goes from little to no value. That's especially true if that woman was ever on the cock carousel in times past.

frankmarlowe · 2017-10-06T10:22:30+00:00

I welcome the Tradcons who come here to figure out how to GTOW with open arms and no judgement. I do not welcome the Tradcons who come here to tell me or anyone else how to act or think. Those particular fools can waltz right the fuck back out the same way they came in.

UnKnownSurviving · 2017-10-06T06:51:54+00:00

Of course.

What's funny, is that, these bitches think Alpha males (Actual MGTOWs) "who were abandoned" by whatever, so, they shamed him, because he is so-called, "insecure". And while, these "TradCons", abandon feminism outright, they won't get rid of its benefits. Why would they? They're just painting themselves another team color; just switching sides to another team, that's it. If one team is losing, they jump to another.

And now, they want to keep the "Tradition", because they finds that men vanishing away, because they have no interest in marriage. And why the fuck, would they? It's too fucking dangerous now, in this day and age.

And they want a "real man"? Funny thing about these TradCons, (and it's not just them, it's Liberals as well), they always end up with a weak man. They always do. And they dare to mock/shame Alphas (MGTOWs)?

This is fucking stupid.

What they mean is, they can't fucking control him, because he does what he likes. They fucking know they can't control him. But they could control a Red-Piller, who didn't maintain his alpha maleness, in long term, yet for short-term, because he just wanted to fuck bitches, for a while, and maybe get married later, and be done with it later. This idiot didn't swallow the pill for the long-term (eternal masculinity), and he'll be fucked up by her, for not maintaining his manly shit. The funny thing about those idiot "Red Pillers", they're not thinking long-term.

And they haven't swallowed the pill.

This type of thinking is FUCKED UP. Even Rollo Tomassi, warned this type of thinking is fucking dangerous, that you could last in marriage, when you think you don't need a strong substance of masculinity anymore.

What a fucking retard.

snoozeflu · 2017-10-06T08:05:43+00:00

The fuck is a tradcon?

7mil · 2017-10-06T08:20:21+00:00

What the fuck is wrong with people lol. All were trying to do is carry on our genes. whoever created humanity was all like "Let me make these creatures as fucked up as possible" just for shits and giggles. Funny thing is the women with the most fucked up genes come up with this shit. You dont see 8-10s caring about this extra shit. Theyre just shitesting hardcore to find the best genes because they know they are top tier women.

It the majority falling for this bullshit so thats why its even working. I agree fully feminism needs to wake men up.

TakeYourDailyDose · 2017-10-06T11:40:06+00:00

Two sides of the same coin. I wouldn't say "tradcon ideology is worse for men than feminism", though- both groups want to restrict what men can and can't do, albeit in different ways. Both groups also want men to live on the plantation while women have the good life, given the privileges of adults with the responsibility of children. Tradcucks are just a little more honest with their bullshit, perhaps because they realize that men are completely responsible for upholding society- unlike feminists who largely live in delusional, conspiracy-filled fantasy worlds.

johngalt1234 · 2017-10-06T12:14:06+00:00

Well Patriarchy( a male invention) is the best we can come up with. If we must relate to females and have legitimate offspring worthy of investment.

toysjoe · 2017-10-06T13:33:14+00:00

The only reason tradcons want people to reproduce is so old people have young people to pay taxes.

Neither men nor women need tradcon. They just both bought into it because it was a pleasant lie. The woman gets the man's resources and the man gets to put his penis in a wet hole on a consistent basis. They both live under the lie that they love each other and want to have a family.

Now women have welfare and men have Fleshlights, sex dolls, and prostitutes. It's a lie neither gender has to live with anymore.

Tradcons are some of the most selfish people alive.

DigitalScetis · 2017-10-06T13:40:51+00:00

It amazes me that so-called "Christian men" are no better than hedonistic PUAs when they dream of "expensive sex" and "manning up.". If Christ came back to earth, they'd call him a beta and a closet homosexual.

And, deep down, they are too soft, weak, and pandering for women to take them seriously. When Trump said women ought to be punished for breaking the law, he earned far more respect from women than someone like Cruz or Rubio. Those people are just creepy for women, and pushovers. Because when push comes to shove, these conservatives will do as they have always done: they'll let women off the hook for their actions by punishing men twice as hard for the bad acts that women do.

redsfan277 · 2017-10-06T14:51:45+00:00

I am more Tradcon than MGTOW.

But i believe the law is not on men's side so its not worth it. But i believe that giving yourself for your family and sons/daughters and your country is virtuous.

Now i dont see a point but if men had the authority to be the law in their own homes then i can see how beneficial it can be for society even if men are still slaves if they choose to be

AllahHatesFags · 2017-10-06T16:26:31+00:00

I am so sick of these anti-abortion tradcucks all over this sub. An abortion benefits the man more than the woman, and outlawing would place millions more men in child support debt slavery.

Talkytalktalk · 2017-10-06T16:27:02+00:00

Tradcons are the worst.

darksats · 2017-10-30T08:25:18+00:00

Feminism is better than Traditionalism.atleast feminists are honest in f*cking up men.tradcon women are silent killers.

GreenAvocadoMan · 2017-10-06T06:25:24+00:00

MGTOW is understanding female nature and how society is stacked against men. And from there doing whatever the fuck you want.

You can be MGTOW and have tradcon values.

Who the fuck are you? Don't go telling people what they should and shouldn't believe. Beyond our mutual red pilled understanding we will all have different views on what an ideal world would look like.

Dear Tradcons, please swallow the red pill or move on to another community. MGTOW is not tradcon. You are the ultimate blue pills.

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Here's your Reddit Silver, GettingGains!

REAL radical feminism calls for the castration and/or even outright elimination (euthanasia/killing) of over 80% of males.

Case in point: this very thread.

Looks like the invasion of the TeRP'er/PUA/feminazi's is growing gutsier.

ROTFLMAO

Title	Dear Tradcons, please swallow the red pill or move on to another community. MGTOW is not tradcon. You are the ultimate blue pills.
Author	GettingGains
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Date	October 5, 2017 8:00 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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