I got suspended back in high school for defending myself from a female. Girl sat in class and would constantly fuck with me, for no reason, I wasn't a weird kid, or smelly, or anything like that, she was just an entitled, stuck up, snob, whose parents never taught her any differently.
One day walking through the hall she gave me that kick to the back of the knee that kids do sometimes. Turn around, roll eyes, keep walking. Feel a smack to the back of my head, hear laughing behind me, try to ignore it. Feel another, turn around give her an open hand smack right to the face. She does possibly the worst fainting act I've ever seen, pretends to be knocked out, taken to the principals office, suspended go down to the police station.
It went almost exactly how you'd expect, and honestly I'd probably have been charged if not for hallway cameras, which the school made it an absolute CHORE to gather footage from said cameras. Even afterwords, teachers looked at me like I was a killer for even daring to defend myself.
I'm not saying it's a good thing that these kids do it, because it's terrible and sad and fucked up. But I can almost understand how some of these kids snap after years of torment and go psycho on classmates.
There may not be an easy solution, but there is an effective one. Of course that solution is the one the dim-witted high school kids are skipping class to protest, because it involves somebody who suffers torment every day finally releasing the pent-up rage.
To the virtue-signaling kids I say this: don't want to get shot? No problem: not being a d-bag or friends with the d-bags essentially lowers your odds to zero. Then again, more kids die each year from drowning in buckets than from school shootings, so maybe the kids were just looking for a reason to skip a math test. It's not like they have the slightest understanding of the difference between a citizen and a subject. (To the extent that you need a government employee's permission to bear arms, you are a subject, not a citizen.)
Indeed, it is as you said, a part of human nature. What you are wrong is that different studies in different Muslim countries estimate the numbers of bullied middle schoolers from 8 to 45%. In "feminized" Austria they have 21%, one of the highest in Europe. Strange, not feminized muslims bully each other more leading to never ending bullying, eh?
Another problem, although I am pro learning how to fight, yet solving hierarchy problems by fighting is down right stupid, humanity must be past this point for at least 100 years. There are many researches done by behaviorists and other fellows, that show ways to make societies healthier, yet not enough people who listen to them.
I don't care about morality. I care about efficiency. Monkeys can fight as much as they want, although humans are monkeys too, yet ways to accomplish goals here are a bit different. If you and I have to build a house or control an organization, I couldn't give a shit about how many people you can break with your one hand, unless you are going to do all heavy lifting, of course.
Islamic countries are the least feminized countries. And I already gave you quite a big range from 8 to 45%, which implies diversity among them. So why you take Iran when you can look at the Caucasus region, for example? It seems the half of the population there are bloody monkeys respecting only strength, yet bullying is constant part of their life. I am sure they have many ways to prove themselves there, yet never ending bullying. Their IQ is not that different from Iran, btw.
If you know none it doesn't mean there is none. Like I said, there are ways to decrease to some degree destructive human behaviors. Although it requires some self control, planning and funds, it isn't that really impossible. Plenty of data to prove it. Just majority of people don't give a shit about pretty much anything.
I blame the teachers. I witnessed and experienced bullying all the way through school from start to finish. During that time I can't recall a single instance of a teacher intervening. I was once punished for daring to call a teacher out for sitting there with a fucking grin while the poor kid who maybe had three shirts to his name had his things stolen and destroyed by her favorite ass kisser.
Honestly I'm surprise that resorting to violence isn't more common. Lots of these poor kids have been tormented daily for years and the schools won't do shit to help. A few of them are bound to snap.
Absolutely. AI or VR or something. It is my firm belief that the majority of our school teachers are in it for the wrong reasons. They just don't care or enjoy abusing positions of power over children. Of course if you voice any sort of concern over the education our kids are getting you are immediately shamed.
Teachers are heros/martyrs don't you know? /s
Notice what's going on down in Ky right now? Every time anyone's attempted to fix the retirement program for educators there has been a huge uproar. Now that it's obvious that it won't last much longer and someone is actually trying to do something about it the shit has hit the fan.
The entitlement is real folks. If I were the governor I'd just back off and watch them all lose their retirement when the system goes bankrupt in a few years.
Sorry but at the schools I've been around most of the demonstration has included messages of kindness and anti bullying. I haven't seen people simply demanding gun control only. Careful not to get brainwashed by the media.
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I got suspended back in high school for defending myself from a female. Girl sat in class and would constantly fuck with me, for no reason, I wasn't a weird kid, or smelly, or anything like that, she was just an entitled, stuck up, snob, whose parents never taught her any differently.
One day walking through the hall she gave me that kick to the back of the knee that kids do sometimes. Turn around, roll eyes, keep walking. Feel a smack to the back of my head, hear laughing behind me, try to ignore it. Feel another, turn around give her an open hand smack right to the face. She does possibly the worst fainting act I've ever seen, pretends to be knocked out, taken to the principals office, suspended go down to the police station.
It went almost exactly how you'd expect, and honestly I'd probably have been charged if not for hallway cameras, which the school made it an absolute CHORE to gather footage from said cameras. Even afterwords, teachers looked at me like I was a killer for even daring to defend myself.
I'm not saying it's a good thing that these kids do it, because it's terrible and sad and fucked up. But I can almost understand how some of these kids snap after years of torment and go psycho on classmates.
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There may not be an easy solution, but there is an effective one. Of course that solution is the one the dim-witted high school kids are skipping class to protest, because it involves somebody who suffers torment every day finally releasing the pent-up rage.
To the virtue-signaling kids I say this: don't want to get shot? No problem: not being a d-bag or friends with the d-bags essentially lowers your odds to zero. Then again, more kids die each year from drowning in buckets than from school shootings, so maybe the kids were just looking for a reason to skip a math test. It's not like they have the slightest understanding of the difference between a citizen and a subject. (To the extent that you need a government employee's permission to bear arms, you are a subject, not a citizen.)
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You are right and wrong in the same time.
Indeed, it is as you said, a part of human nature. What you are wrong is that different studies in different Muslim countries estimate the numbers of bullied middle schoolers from 8 to 45%. In "feminized" Austria they have 21%, one of the highest in Europe. Strange, not feminized muslims bully each other more leading to never ending bullying, eh?
Another problem, although I am pro learning how to fight, yet solving hierarchy problems by fighting is down right stupid, humanity must be past this point for at least 100 years. There are many researches done by behaviorists and other fellows, that show ways to make societies healthier, yet not enough people who listen to them.
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I don't care about morality. I care about efficiency. Monkeys can fight as much as they want, although humans are monkeys too, yet ways to accomplish goals here are a bit different. If you and I have to build a house or control an organization, I couldn't give a shit about how many people you can break with your one hand, unless you are going to do all heavy lifting, of course.
Islamic countries are the least feminized countries. And I already gave you quite a big range from 8 to 45%, which implies diversity among them. So why you take Iran when you can look at the Caucasus region, for example? It seems the half of the population there are bloody monkeys respecting only strength, yet bullying is constant part of their life. I am sure they have many ways to prove themselves there, yet never ending bullying. Their IQ is not that different from Iran, btw.
If you know none it doesn't mean there is none. Like I said, there are ways to decrease to some degree destructive human behaviors. Although it requires some self control, planning and funds, it isn't that really impossible. Plenty of data to prove it. Just majority of people don't give a shit about pretty much anything.
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Ah, this mindset of yours... Wish you well anyway.
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I blame the teachers. I witnessed and experienced bullying all the way through school from start to finish. During that time I can't recall a single instance of a teacher intervening. I was once punished for daring to call a teacher out for sitting there with a fucking grin while the poor kid who maybe had three shirts to his name had his things stolen and destroyed by her favorite ass kisser.
Honestly I'm surprise that resorting to violence isn't more common. Lots of these poor kids have been tormented daily for years and the schools won't do shit to help. A few of them are bound to snap.
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Absolutely. AI or VR or something. It is my firm belief that the majority of our school teachers are in it for the wrong reasons. They just don't care or enjoy abusing positions of power over children. Of course if you voice any sort of concern over the education our kids are getting you are immediately shamed.
Teachers are heros/martyrs don't you know? /s
Notice what's going on down in Ky right now? Every time anyone's attempted to fix the retirement program for educators there has been a huge uproar. Now that it's obvious that it won't last much longer and someone is actually trying to do something about it the shit has hit the fan.
The entitlement is real folks. If I were the governor I'd just back off and watch them all lose their retirement when the system goes bankrupt in a few years.
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Sorry but at the schools I've been around most of the demonstration has included messages of kindness and anti bullying. I haven't seen people simply demanding gun control only. Careful not to get brainwashed by the media.
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