How do you guys interact with your (mostly) blue-pill conditioned circle of friends?

KNXmgtow · 2018-02-15T18:21:16+00:00

I dont

M6T0W · 2018-02-15T18:57:09+00:00

I flat out refused to be my best friend's best man at their "future wedding." I said I don't do weddings. Friend gets it, who has known me for ages, but the girl is utterly shocked. They're too poor to get married now, so I thank the heavens that there's a chance he could wake up from this trance. He, too, is on restrictions. Virtually never allowed to hang out with the guys unless it's at his house. Doesn't do anything but work and stay at home with her. The girl often tries to play cupid match-maker but I snuff that shit out fast. She tried to start calling me "Uncle [my name]" with their new cat, and I had to snuff that shit out fast as well.

She wanted me to be their future kids "godfather," yet again, I had to lay it down loud and clear. You have kids, they're not my fucking responsibility, you know I don't want a relationship, why the fuck would I want kids? They're yours. Not mine. I've been increasingly distancing myself. It's been months since I visited. It's always something with these two. The tough part is, he's my only genuinely great friend. And the day he asks my opinion of her, I'm letting loose. But I think he already knows, honestly. My friend is the only reason I've compromised this much. It's honestly harder to distance myself from a bro, than the decision I made to avoid women. But it's starting to go too far, if I'm being honest. I have a red line, and we're close.

JosephBancor · 2018-02-15T19:13:56+00:00

I'm not desperate enough to have blue pill friends.

I actually respect myself and actually have standards and boundaries.

I know my life is too precious to waste it on making friends with blue pillers.

Life is so much better off without these types of people in my life. I never have to waste another second of my precious life ever dealing with such issues.

Not my circus not my monkeys.

boogalooshrimp1103 · 2018-02-15T18:30:53+00:00

keep your ideas to yourself or limit interactions with those people

somuchluv2give · 2018-02-15T18:25:49+00:00

I wouldn’t be able to do it. You basically have to live a lie to fit in. Personally I talk shit about marriage whenever it’s brought it, I always have since I was like 14 yrs old I’ve been vocal and outspoken about how stupid I think it is. For that reason I’ve never been invited to a wedding and any of my friends who got married, their wives hated me and I never saw that friend again but once in a blue moon. But I’ve found that once guys get married they basically don’t exist anymore anyways. So your so called social circle of married blue pillers is going up slowly dwindle as you see your friends less and less, eventually you’ll be lucky if you see them once or twice a year, usually on birthdays and maybe Christmas.

maggot_brain79 · 2018-02-15T19:54:34+00:00

Once your drinkin' buddy or bro finds a thot that he likes, expect to see him/hear from him 50% less than you normally did. He'll be too busy working to further her agenda and walking behind her cleaning up after her stupid fuckin' mistakes.

Now, if he gets married, expect that 50% to go up to 80%. If for some reason the poor bastard impregnates the thot, it goes up to 99%. If you do hear from him, once in a blue moon, it'll be all about how married life is so great and kids are so awesome, and nothing else. These are his continued attempts to rationalize the deep-seated misery he carries with him.

Once your bro gets married, forget about it. He disappears for all intents and purposes. Even if, five years down the road, you invite him to have some beers and shoot the shit for old time's sake, his wife will forbid him from doing so or he'll have to leave before he finishes his first beer on some errand for Stacy and Little Jimmy. And to top it all off, in the ten minutes you get to see him, he'll regale you with tales of Little Jimmy and how fatherhood changed him as a man.

Doesn't matter what kind of shit you went through with him, or all the crazy shit you guys used to pull together, or all the fun you had over the years hanging out with him. He becomes a boring shell of his former self.

Seen it all happen at least a dozen times.

Supersonic_staples · 2018-02-15T20:52:00+00:00

I basically just sit back and listen. I probably pick my battles somewhat, I'm unlikely to spout off when severely outnumbered by true believers (you can never have a productive argument against a true believer, you're either on their side or guilty of blasphemy).

Having said that, I refuse to pretend to be blue pill or even slightly support the narrative. I'll bite my tongue until it goes too far, then I'll wade in.

My goal in wading in isn't to change minds or win an argument, simply to state I think [insert blue pill ideal] is bullshit. Pushed, and they always push, I state reasoning and background supporting information (ie: women start divorce proceedings 70% of the time).

The argument at that point can go one of 3 ways.

1) silent acceptance of a dissenting opinion. This happens. Rare, but happens.

2) anecdotal evidence brought forward to rebut, ie: "I know a couple that....". Counterpoint is anecdotal evidence doesn't disprove overall statistics, there are always outliers, and 5 out of 6 people swear Russian roulette is safe. Usually this leads to #1,

3) shaming. This is the refuge of the true believer. Call it out...state "don't stoop to shaming tactics, you're better than that". Effect is usually they slink away

TheoTasty · 2018-02-15T18:53:51+00:00

You know how in every friendship with most guys there's that moment where the cunt comes inbetween your plans and activities and kinda cages your friend? That's the moment where I bail out of this relationship. Reminds me too much of my divorced parents when I'm caught in the middle of couple drama, never again.

I have lots of blue pilled friends (aren't most guys anyway?) so I have this sort of rotation in place depending on who's in a relationship and how it's going between them, and I rotate between the crises.

buff_minorcan · 2018-02-15T20:57:34+00:00

Honestly all the blue pills I know love being around me. I'm a great release for them to vent about all the shit they deal with. They know I don't judge and I'm an outlet for them to direct their rage and sadness about married laugh.

I always get to make fun of them by saying yeah but as soon as that phone rings your rage turns into "oh hey baby! Oh yes uh huh ok.. yes..ok I'll grab that for you and be home soon. Mmm hmm I love you too kisses"

They end most our conversations with "Keep doing what you're doing, don't ever get married"

But we are all more on the manly side so for these guys it just is what it is. They can at least recognize the bullshit they put up with and find humor in it. No doubt they've had plenty of throw down fights with their wives.

I couldn't imagine interacting with some real cuckhold simps that would do nothing but glorify their wives and married life and all that shit. I feel like Id look at them and suggest at that very moment their wives are likely getting it on with Chad.

And they'd respond "Yeah we know, today is her day with Chad"

Mechnasty · 2018-02-15T18:36:23+00:00

Those wives aren't going to allow them to hang with you unless you join the cult of subjugation. Your friends are already gone. On the few occasions you do see them they're going to be shells of their former selves.

Blumol · 2018-02-15T18:33:24+00:00

I usually take it easy with them. I keep clear of discussions regarding relationships. If they ask why I'm single, I usually blame a lack of time or not being able to find "the right one".

lonelylikegod · 2018-02-15T21:24:44+00:00

Just be yourself. If your friends can’t deal with your own beliefs and political affiliations, then they weren’t good friends to begin with. I’ve lost people in this recent election. Fuck it.

Always be rational and be willing to listen.

I have liberal, obama, bernie loving friends and we throw ideas and arguments at each other and we learn from each other.

Quality over quantity, best friends.

migtoah · 2018-02-15T23:04:51+00:00

I just get along like usual, joke around in their PC language/nature, have the final say and leave. I never bring in any of those red pill or MGTOW topics to the discussion and if I do, it'll be in a sort of just kidding tone.

The key is to not take people and their words seriously. Avoiding people takes a lot more energy than it seems. Completely going with what everybody is doing also makes you a doormat with no individual ambitions. By quickly engaging and disengaging with people, you'll have a decent social camouflage (if that matters to you or you need it to survive in your work environment), not think of people stuff much and have time for more productive things.

Omnibrad · 2018-02-15T18:25:08+00:00

Even though I totally embrace red pill concepts, I have to admit I still get feelings of insecurity

You contradict yourself in the same sentence. You have embraced nothing.

801735 · 2018-02-15T18:59:33+00:00

When I try to introduce some red pill concepts to friends, I get met with white knighting more often than not and NAWALT counters.

MobTilliDie · 2018-02-15T21:10:04+00:00

Is anyone gonna share your coffin with you? This has done wonders for me

NeadDiggerStorage · 2018-02-15T21:18:18+00:00

i treat it almost like a religion. I don't talk about mine and I certainly don't want to talk about other people's.

jaycee9 · 2018-02-15T21:49:35+00:00

You have to understand that you are second fiddle now and you will be until the divorces hit. You should keep in touch, come around for visits when you can, and be there when they are amenable to red pill info. You know what's going to happen to most of them, they don't.

rzr_cl · 2018-02-15T22:38:32+00:00

True friendship is based on trust and respect; if you can’t talk to your friends without being yourself, then those people are not really your friends.

My buds know I’m a MGTOW, not by name, but they know I’m not interested in chasing women and that I’m happy being single. Initially they did give the NAWALT speech and tried to convince me to go back to the plantation, but over time they came to terms with my point of view and eventually accepted it. Similarly, I did talk to them about several red pill truths, but they chose to stay in the plantation and look for their unicorns, that’s their choice and I accept it, to each their own.

In the end, we just agreed to disagree, every time we meet we focus on the stuff we have in common, rather than trying to convince each other about who is right or wrong.

coinbaserep · 2018-02-15T21:26:25+00:00

My life long friend just went through a divorce 4 months ago and is already dating a 34 hb9 that has 3 kids aged 10-15 she’s in love with him and already hinted about them getting a place together (lives in a 2 bedroom basement apartment) meanwhile ex wife is flipping out trying to get her fired from her job (finally found out he has a gf)and told him to lawyer up because she’s going to screw him. She went to his girlfriends work and told the office that she was dating a client and she wrecked there divorce (meanwhile the divorce was in the works for months if not years )

Had a talk with him today and said wtf are you doing your barely divorced and banging a single mom with 3 kids and she wants to move in

Get your shit together and get your life in order and stop trying to fill the void with a new women. You want to play daddy for 3 kids that don’t have a daddy.

He is cuntstruck and it baffles me.

Ex wife caught him watching porn and banned the internet for 2 years including no data on his phone.

Women are crazy

Sn0man79 · 2018-02-15T22:10:21+00:00

I got rid of all blue pills and leftists from my life. I don't have the time nor the patience for their bullshit.

MauserFG42 · 2018-02-15T21:05:10+00:00

every time i hear "yeah. the WIFE dont like it" or "happy wife happy life" i want to eat a bullet

Afab67 · 2018-02-15T21:17:48+00:00

Avoid discussing relationships at all costs unless they have reached a point where they're ready to go their own way.

bjjthrowaway64 · 2018-02-15T23:07:02+00:00

You can introduce concepts to them, but it doesn't mean they will accept them. Red pills are bitter and hard to swallow. You can't "save" anyone that doesn't want to be saved and going out of your way to trying to do so will hurt you more than them. If they're enjoying their lives, good for them. Going your own way often means going alone.

feelsboii · 2018-02-15T23:11:56+00:00

It's impossible to network to a woman's friends if the initial woman rejected you. Those bitches gossip and gossip. Broke up with some dumb "Higher than thou" blonde because I just didn't like her anymore. The next day, the NEXT FUCKING DAY, her friends accuse me of asking for sex (fuck no, she was disgusting) and said that she broke up with me. Women are a hive mind, and you can't trust any of them.

VlogIt · 2018-02-15T23:56:30+00:00

Reading through this, it looks like OP is still on the fence. The last one to be married in his social group, old enough to see some bullshit, but not experienced enough to know what marriage will lead to. Please keep lurking. In 5 or 10 years, you will change your tune, married or not.

appdater3000 · 2018-02-16T04:24:42+00:00

Hey man, I am early 30s, really just starting to experience this. It feels like watching my friends continuously walking into the same haunted forest when I have the map that clearly and easily shows the way around. I've found so far that there's just nothing I can do, they are all going to make their own mistakes and hopefully learn in time.

Sadly, I have had to cut back on time with a few of my best friends because their harpy wives always ruin it. It really sucks, but I guess it's inevitable?

owninfools007 · 2018-02-15T21:33:04+00:00

I’ve become a full lone wolf. I’m traveling alone today and it feels weird but it’s me. It’s not that I purposely avoid blue pilled people I just don’t see a reason to. I do hang out with my one married friend who actually gets to hang out and all my other single mates.

fcb98292 · 2018-02-15T22:04:47+00:00

With utter contempt.

DrRedPaint · 2018-02-15T22:46:36+00:00

if you want to get married you better get married now. Unfortunately, AWALT, so good luck with nagging, cheating and restrictions.

Nezborn02 · 2018-02-15T22:53:59+00:00

What blue-pilled friends?

WhistlingAlong · 2018-02-16T00:38:04+00:00

You can only lead a horse to water. Now back to my mgtow

Blogginginvicecity · 2018-02-16T01:35:19+00:00

I'm in the same region. I ended up distancing myself from the incessant drama and self-isolation that is many blue pill couples.

More of my social interaction comes from the cool coworkers and workers at places where I'm a regular. Thankfully, I've been blessed with some cool regulars at my job that have turned into solid friendships outside of work. Overall, the guys I'm closest to are other single dudes (usually a little nerdy or socially awkward) who are passionate about their hobbies and their work. The lower wage men (at least the hardworking ones) understand the drive for upward mobility, and understand the crazy money suck that is a relationship, so thankfully they are usually supportive of the hard working, and somewhat adventurous single life.

Too bad you don't have more single friends, OP! Even ardent blue pillers can appreciate some harsh red pill sayings, when the blue pillers are single and the comment is thrown out as a joke.

BadSeed2666 · 2018-02-16T02:18:53+00:00

Friends? LMAO. What friends? I enjoy my own company and complete serenity in a town that's over 95% white. I enjoy life and I know I have it good.

NoThirst · 2018-02-16T02:29:32+00:00

...I have 3 MIGTOWish friends...I dont have the need to condition the others. Everyone is free to go their own way...I would however...gouge out my own eye with a rusty spoon before I'd go to any friggin' baby shower.

hollybegin · 2018-02-16T04:01:18+00:00

They're gone. Sorry to break the bad news. And those red pills concepts you're trying to instill, they make you look like an asshole (at least in their eyes and for now...). Let it go. Pretty soon, wifes will start to pump out unit after unit and you won't see them at all. Focus on yourself, start bjj, buy a sailing boat, learn chinese, whatever because I'm afraid your circle of friends is broken and it will never come back the way it was when you were teenagers, even after the divorces. That is life.

Adrianpostate · 2018-02-16T04:59:17+00:00

Oh I’m not brave enough for politics.

Watchingcluturefade · 2018-02-16T09:12:27+00:00

Laugh at them as I drive by them as I drive by them at a quarter mile of 11.2 seconds

:)

In all seriousness, I still talk to a few, but they have been delegated to "company me" vs "real me" which is what you guys see.

It is kinda sad, because our relationship is basically a lie, but whatever, it's still fun to see them every now and then

I imagining this being much harder if I were not 35

xnihilum · 2018-02-16T10:52:38+00:00

Easy=Have no blue pilled friends.

Title	How do you guys interact with your (mostly) blue-pill conditioned circle of friends?
Author	ngomaam
Upvotes	62
Comments	82
Date	February 15, 2018 6:05 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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