I feel utterly powerless

DangZagnut · 2020-03-06T00:51:25+00:00

Have you tried fasting? Lots of people have success with that.

It seems like, assuming you aren't a chick with some body dysmorphia, that you're not dieting correctly. Or your'e doing it for too little time and giving up.

Some OMAD with fasting, and it can work, but like with all things, you have to commit to it.

Sticking a needly in or getting lipo won't work, because you'll go right back to what you're doing now, not losing fat. Stomach surgery won't help, only committing to starving yourself will work and you have yet to do that.

Sorry, if it was easy everyone would do it.

HumanzDisgustMe · 2020-03-06T00:54:13+00:00

It is a war. If it was easy everyone would do it. No sympathy here just burn more calories than you take in. I recommend fasting.

Oatmeal_or_Porridge · 2020-03-06T01:02:25+00:00

I've been fat my whole life also.

Okay, your goal is to get into ketosis. In ketosis you won't be hungry. I forget to eat sometimes... seriously.

Low carb is correct; with intermittent fasting... sleep 8, don't eat for 8, then eat as much low carb as you want for 8 hrs, then repeat.

Slowly you will find yourself eating less, wanting less...

You have to be disciplined.

Zero sugar, eat steak...

Wisdom_of_a_Khan · 2020-03-06T01:21:48+00:00

This is going to sound insane, but it helped me, I hope it helps you.

My biggest problem is having a sweet tooth, I come from a german family where we love our pastries and deserts. I can do the no soda, I can do the diet meals, I could not put down the deserts.

My buddy recommended taking a shot of whiskey after supper. A cheap harsh shot of rot gut whiskey, Harsher the better, I prefer old crow and Rebel yell. It kills the sweet tooth, All of a sudden I have a way to control the last craving that was kicking my ass, I lost 30 pounds without even trying last year and feel infinitely better. I got about 30 pounds to go and i'm still doing good.

Sounds crazy, don't know the science, All I know is all the diets I was ever on I would crave sweets, even after days of going without the craving never went away. One shot of whiskey takes it away.

CyberSmith34 · 2020-03-06T02:18:46+00:00

Check your testosterone levels, try some supplements, which support the natural T-production. I heard raspberry ketons support fat loss, might help. If you want to reset your gut flora, kephir is nice, but maybe too small a caliber for your problem. There are extra probiotical yogurts like Yakult or even probiotic supplements, which contain your bowel bacteria directly, I tried them once and my turds have never been so hard, I was literally shitting bricks.

Misogynist-youth · 2020-03-06T02:28:18+00:00

Try this... I shaved 7kgs (about 15 pounds) in less than 5 weeks with little effort doing this.

Intermittent fasting, only eat 8 hours of the day, and leave the other 16 with zero food intake but water.
Do cardio between hour 12 to 16 (before food intake), that way your body will burn fat for fuel as there's no fuel in your stomach to burn
Get a skipping rope, skip for 10 to 15 minutes a day. If your knees are healthy, also keep your feet light. (Skipping appear to burn calories faster than running)

I didn't change my diet, I still eat crap, but these minor adjustment does wonders.

The first 2-4 days will be tough, as your body try to adjust to new feed cycle, but trust me, it will get easier.

Good luck brother

Romek_Buch · 2020-03-06T02:54:46+00:00

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archwiz75 · 2020-03-06T01:04:34+00:00

Have you done any research into aromatase? It's something in the brain of some men that turns testosterone into estrogen. Even if you do TRT (testosterone replacement treatment) it won't help because your brain will turn it into extra estrogen you might need to go on beta blockers like Arimidex to help get rid of your issues involving cellulite and manboobs.

PixelBot · 2020-03-06T02:14:38+00:00

Hey man. You aren't alone. I mean that - not in a bullshit way, but it's actually refreshing to hear you talk about your experience. A lot of people talk about their "change in lifestyle" or "success", but never talk about the relapses. The reality. Life. Bad genetics. Other health issues...

It took courage to share what you have - so you obviously care enough about yourself.

You are never going to look like a superhero. Ok, phew we got that out of the way. You will always have some fat around your gut, if not, stretched skin at the least.

The fact that you know about low carb, etc, etc, who cares, you relapsed, but you have a MAJOR advantage. You already know the meals, the prep, the cooking. You already know. That's the fucking hardest part.

You even have the work ethic. You pushed yourself in the gym. You did it every day. Let me guess - you stuck to the diet for 3 months? At the end of 3 months you were pissed that you didn't lose nearly as much as you originally calculated on one of those calorie calculators for "best case scenario"? Then you held yourself to an impossible diet (for a healthy person none the less), and then, you were surprised when the results didn't work. ESPECIALLY the last week - you probably saw NO LOSS, or diminished losses, or even gain. Causing a trigger to set this post off.

You hit a wall. Something no one will tell you about. Oh yes, they are real. And you BEST BELIEVE it can go WEEKS and even MONTHS to get past walls. Oh yes boy. The real killer. Those fucking walls boy. No one has a mind strong enough to go through those walls. No one. Most people aren't affected by terrible genetics like you, so they will NEVER RELATE. I have a mix of some awful ones, and some great ones. Maybe not the areas I would have chosen in an RPG selection screen.

You're going to get a bunch of other good advice about routine, diet etc, so that's great. Keto 100% is the best, no question, other great posts here......... high fat, high protein, vitamins + minerals.

I gave myself a cutoff, like you did. When I first started lifting, I got some small gains, which kept me motivated. However I regressed 4 or 5 times. Meaning, I would be steady with diet and gym for several months, then I would regress back to junk food, 4 or 5 times probably, coursing 5 or 6 years of my life. And an issue since childhood. I still struggle with it... but... I have more tools..............]

I bet your hormones are a mess. I'd bet almost anything, you're hormonal balance is wrong. I'm willing to bet anything your blood work results would yield major deficiencies. Who knows why - environment, food, years of abuse, disease.... you name it..... We first need to figure out what your test levels even look like, and find out your deficiencies. We need to figure out where your hormonal deficiencies are, and then test your glands.

99.9% likely, you will be suffering from extreme testosterone deficiency - again - many many reasons why gland/hormone issues... Men of your age especially, but some people have low T naturally, or because of other reasons, who knows. Unfortunately, 99% likely your doctor is not educated properly on Men's health. Most doctors WONT EVEN ORDER THE PROPER PANEL to even test your test...... and even if you did somehow, they would not tell you that a "300" result is low. For reference, you should have a test level of 1000+. I want to see how you feel in the gym, at home, etc, when your test levels are fixed.... do you know what they are? After you know that, then can look at solutions for long term, if it helps.

Next, real talk....... I hit that fuckin' wall too many. So many times. But I did something different one time. I told myself "this is the last fucking time....I'll do anything". I started learning about ..... PED... performance enhancing drugs... anabolic... steroids.... testosterone boosters, androgens........ I learned a lot. IF you're willing to look at more solutions, I promise, it's possible to break through your wall. If I was right about any of that.

PS. One more thing..... Stop with the idea that cardio will help in any huge way. It's actually hurting you more than helping. Weights. Weights. Weights. Squats, Deadlifts, Presses, Dumbbells........ literally, the only things you should be doing. Seriously, it's a waste of time to worry about anything else, if you're talking about doing this fast. Seriously. I'll help you get started with weight.... it's the only thing worth doing to change your man boobs. Running will jiggle them - maybe it can tighten up the skin later on, or some shit --- but you need major change from underneath... we gotta lift 3x a week, just to start, is enough.

ChivalricChuck · 2020-03-06T02:17:08+00:00

If you put as much research into fitness as you did all the bull shit in that first paragraph you'd be a fucking model. Go watch some strength building videos, and control your eating. Have some fucking discipline.

CeramicSpork · 2020-03-06T03:09:06+00:00

Get some multi-vitamins and fast long-term. After the first few days you'll stop feeling hunger- it will return when your body runs low on fat. Then, eat something. I've done it before- never been fat, but I have been skinny-fat most of my life. Started changing that a year and a half ago, you CAN make a difference.

Seriously, the most effective diet is to not eat.

JMD173 · 2020-03-06T04:29:01+00:00

Fasting. Look up snake diet on YouTube. Also, you probably have low testosterone, especially if you have fat where women have it. Look into TRT and talk to your doctor about it.

ncarolina66 · 2020-03-06T04:48:33+00:00

Here's another suggestion, try eating healthy for 6 days and then taking a "cheat day" so you have something to work towards and it kind of throws your body a curve ball (alternate the day too).

Also, if you really can't shake the sweet tooth then try this. It might not be pretty and it still costs you money (going down the "drain") but it works to alleviate the sweet craving and wont' add any calories (if you don't swallow any)....buy some sweet food you really like (like say half dozen donuts with the works...chocolate, cream, sprinkles, etc. then stand over your kitchen trash can, stuff the sweet goodness into your salivating pie hole, chew and savor it in your mouth and on your tongue's taste bubs, then spit it all out into the trash can, try not to swallow any juice either. Have some water handy to wash and spit it all out.

Wouldn't want to do this in a restaurant or in front of people, but in the privacy of your own home, who is going to know? (although you might get weird looks from your dog).

Try it, it works. The sweet taste of victory (that you didn't add any calories to your diet and still get the sugar rush).

TheUser421 · 2020-03-06T05:13:42+00:00

I recommend intermittent fasting. Don’t eat for an 18 hour period and eat only during The reminder 6 hour period.

I did a three week water fast and lost a lot of weight. Then I unconsciously did intermittent fasting to maintain the weight loss. Now? I’m working on building more muscle in the gym.

Give that a try.

2020-03-06T05:22:35+00:00

If you guys haven't tried it, I highly recommend alternate day fasting with a 12:12 window. The key to dieting is longevity. I find a 500 calorie deficit is hard to stick to for the long run. The goal at the end of the diet is to be able to stick to your maintenance calories. I recommend a 250 calorie deficit so if my maintenance calories are 2000. My calorie deficit is 1750. Always consult your doctor before trying but this has helped me. On my lifting days I stick to maintenance calories so I don't lose strength when lifting. I lift 3 days per week. On my lifting days I'm burning on average 300-500 calories so even when I'm on maintenance I'm still in a deficit. I found the sweet spot for losing a pound per week at least for me. As far as sweet tooth cravings I'll just set aside 200-300 calories for some candy to help with the cravings. As long as I'm accountable and tracking I don't go overboard with sweets by doing it this way. I also do a flexible dieting approach. Don't go by those fad diets they're completely useless. All that matters is that you're in a deficit.

SufferableKant · 2020-03-06T05:27:42+00:00

The fat is right there. I can see it. It's not under my muscles, no, it's right there. Why can I not get rid of it?

From what I've read as a layman: as long as your body has above a certain amount of sugar (or alcohol) in your system that needs to be digested, it will prioritise processing that out of the way. It practically ignores the fat reserves in your body. It cannot see them, it has no (metabolic) access to them at that point in time.

The same book went on to say that the problem with the current way of eating we follow is that the food we eat and how often we eat is constantly spiking our blood glucose levels, so in response our pancreas is overloaded with having to produce insulin (which IIRC signals the body to get rid of the glucose). Then, once your glucose levels drop, you get the craving of hunger again, but your body still doesn't have access to all the energy in those fat reserves. So, we just end up eating more food that starts the cycle all over again.

Basically after decades of eating high carb food, it's hard for the body to switch from burning carbs for energy to burning fat for energy.

Unfortunately I don't know what will work for you. Intermittent fasting and strict keto helped for me (although I'm younger than you, and my starting point weight wise was completely different).

I hope you manage to overcome this challenge.

mgtow4ever · 2020-03-06T06:14:46+00:00

Fasting. At one point in time I was losing like a pound a day. Works better the diets and exercise.

2020-03-06T07:55:10+00:00

Get your thyroid checked. If you're telling the truth and you worked that hard to lose weight you should have seen some results. You could have a thyroid or other underlying medical issue causing you to retain body fat.

Sometimes people legitimately are unable to lose weight due to medical stuff. It's worth checking atleast

Fuxk1n · 2020-03-06T09:13:51+00:00

Fasting or omad,

Download zero app

If you can't do fasting you don't want it enough it's simple as.

senidi3041 · 2020-03-06T09:36:36+00:00

Buy this book by Dr. Layne Norton https://www.biolayne.com/fat-loss-forever/

Fat loss is about sustainability. Calories in vs calories out. It is a huge topic. But if you really want to do this, this is the resource. You can do if you really want to.

2020-03-06T14:44:48+00:00

OMAD, IF, and fasting works well for people who are overweight. The OP said he has never been fat. This makes me believe he is skinny fat.

The last thing the OP needs right now is to do long fasts, IF, OMAD, etc. Trust me. I know. I was that guy. I tried all the different type of fasting protocols. All those things will cause him to binge in the end. What he needs to do is eat more good food such as steak and eggs; some vegetables; and maybe some white rice or potatoes 3-5 times a day. Almost like the typical bodybuilding diet. Foods with cholesterol will help regulate hormone levels; since it seems like his hormone levels might be a little out of wack.

Fasting, OMAD, Keto and/or IF have their place. Don’t get me wrong. However, almost every person who has trouble with any/all of those things are already skinny/skinny fat. Their metabolism is messed up and they need to eat more of the good foods to help regulate hormones, which will regulate their metabolism.

ContactJoshua · 2020-03-06T16:37:25+00:00

just run more. If you run 10 miles, that's ~1350 calories, probly more with your weight, right there. You may think I'm being facetious or that I don't know the difficulty of fat loss when I say "just run more"; but I do know the difficulty personally and I'm not being facetious; it really is that simple. It may take time for your body to train up to being able to run 10 miles at a time...so get started.

MGMOWNow1978 · 2020-03-06T17:20:51+00:00

Calories in vs. Calories out. Thermodynamics.

If you aren’t losing weight and want to you need to adjust that balance by eating less or burning more calories.

That’s it.

[Edit] It’s simple but not necessarily easy. Don’t sit there upset about it, you are right in that you can’t out exercise a bad diet. Eat less calories.

[Edit 2] Sounded harsh there, but it’s true, you don’t defy physics you are eating more than you use. If you want accountability or actual advice DM me, I’ve lost a bunch of weight this year.

DrDontGivaDamn · 2020-03-06T17:39:54+00:00

Fasting + Keto

Lost 50 lbs in a month.

MoonshoeBooBoos · 2020-03-07T02:52:20+00:00

I don't know you but I'm getting the impression from what you wrote you try a lot of gimmicky stuff. CICO is at the core of any successful diet to lose weight. After focusing on eating the right number of calories you should focus on nutrition and activity second. Cardio is fine and is aerobic exercise but only burns calories in the short term. Lifting is catabolic and doesn't burn a lot of calories in the short term but provides benefits hours after. If you lift hard and properly your additional muscle mass with raise your TDEE. Most people don't seriously lift however so you are best off shooting for 1200-1500 cals a day, getting a solid 20-30 mins of cardio in then hitting the weights after. If you eat clean and don't cheat you will see results but you can't cheat. You could potentially have some sort of hormone problem but most people don't and try to find excuses for their lack of progress. The main issue is typically lack of knowledge and discipline. It is difficult to build the discipline but if you educate yourself on the non gimmicky stuff and stick with it you will make progress.

Title	I feel utterly powerless
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