I'm 14. Any advice?

toolfreak4157 · 2017-07-21T20:44:40+00:00

Dont get a girl pregnant and never get married.

fantasmas05 · 2017-07-21T19:53:46+00:00

14? Jesus....!

Umm... Don't take stuff too seriously. Don't beat yourself up over some bitch who didn't want you. Trust me, plenty more will come and go. I think you're too young to be seriously worrying about them to be honest, but if you're going to get involved with them then for gods sake wear a fucking rubber!

Just enjoy your youth and stay in school mate.

Startthecar27 · 2017-07-21T20:34:27+00:00

Don't tell anyone about mgtow. You'll be labeled a hater.

Womencantlove · 2017-07-21T20:11:06+00:00

Don't value yourself through your ability to attract or be convenient to women.

Don't value other men through their ability to attract or be convenient to women.

Do not get married.

Always have a plan. Always have a back up plan.

Save your money.

Alocaco · 2017-07-21T19:43:27+00:00

The best advice I can give you when it comes to girls, actually came from a girl

Spondaios · 2017-07-21T19:48:29+00:00

It was always tough for young men in high school years, but these days it's even tougher. Stay away from girls, wank a lot, and work hard on your studies.

Vidar34 · 2017-07-21T21:11:05+00:00

Women and girls are like drugs: don't do them, don't become addicted to them, don't become dependent on them, because they are bad for your health. The best thing to do is to stay away from them, and focus on what's important in life: everything else.

nmshhhh · 2017-07-21T21:14:01+00:00

You are way ahead of the game friend.

NS_GeishaLair · 2017-07-21T22:45:24+00:00

Try not to judge women solely for their sex, but realize it is in their nature to deceive.

Never get married.

ACertainKindOfFool · 2017-07-22T03:06:46+00:00

1) Don't hate women. Hate consumes energy, and that is something you should learn to treasure. Plus it's just the way are. Only a fool condemns a lion for engaging in lionlike behavior.

2) Don't tell anyone about MGTOW. You can reveal certain facts at appropriate times if you feel the need, but you'll just paint a target on your head by revealing your full allegiances.

3) Question everything. Learn to distinguish between people who are interested in facts and are well studied vs those who have ideological agendas or just mindlessly repeat what they've been told.

4) Determine your own metrics of validation and success. Some measures people give you are good, intelligence and work ethic are good measures of a man and valid things to improve. Some are plain fucking stupid, what tv shows you watch or how many girls talk to you.

5) Have fun, but have a plan. There is little point to living if you don't enjoy your life. However, you will find over time that much of your enjoyment hinges on your personal growth and general sense of accomplishment. Don't forsake your future for temporary pleasures.

6) Don't get married until these damn laws are fixed.

verynormalsimple · 2017-07-22T03:30:10+00:00

1.- Think of another way of transcending besides having kids

2.- Amorous/romantic relationships with women are cancer. Friendship with women is also cancer. Both interactions are not reciprocal, for everything you give you will only get breadcrumbs in return.

3.- Stop hating women, hatred will drain your soul. Just know that all of them are like that and simply avoid getting burned again. Don't be mean or openly anti-women, just set boundaries and make sure they're not walked over.

4.- Avoid going to any woman's house alone, avoid inviting any woman to your house as well. Avoid giving your personal phone number to women, avoid having women on your social media as well. If you need to work with women, you create alternate accounts, have separate cellphones for work.

5.- You will still feel the need to fuck them, you can do that as long as you respect some basic rules:

a) Always motels (if you can't afford them, you can't fuck)

b) Always condoms and spermicide galore,

c) Don't fuck women that any of your close friends or family members know

d) Don't spend a dime on them unless you're paying for a hooker

e) Enforce pre-intercourse agreements, record them on video if needed. This won't 100% protect you from a false rape accusation but it will help.

6.- Create an alternate internet persona, you don't talk about MGTOW in real life or using your real social media accounts.

7.- Basically the same as fight club, you don't recruit people, you don't talk about it, you're not MGTOW even if you're asked about it. Play dumb about it.

Of_Spite · 2017-07-21T19:55:04+00:00

Focus on the rest of your life. You can cut out a lot of bullshit and wasted time by skipping bars, drinking, drugs, in other words women - because that is the main reason anyone gets into that shit. Think about what you want to do, or business you want to make. And don't blindly go to college thinking it's a guaranteed path to high pay.

MTGOStark · 2017-07-22T00:41:58+00:00

We don't hate women, we just understand them.

Fussbus · 2017-07-22T01:22:47+00:00

Find a way to make money (very important) that doesn't make you hate your life. All methods of making money suck, don't follow your passion -- monetize your talents.

Stay away from non-investment debt (if you take a loan it should be with the expectation to profit more than the bank will). Limit your spending.

Treat women like people. Don't fall for one of them.

Defend the people who defend you. Don't defend the people who don't.

One day you might want children --> surrogacy is $100,000 or more and rasing them will cost at least $150,000 if you don't splurge on silly things --> make money. (child support is still higher)

immerse yourself in a hobby and do some exercising. Both are much easier to get into at your age than they will be later, and the benefits are so hard to underestimate. If your hobby relatively is easy (like gaming) consider having more than one.

*As a request, I'd love to hear from you somewhat often. The experiences of our younglings could offer a lot of insight into the future for us.

jebthecybersoldier · 2017-07-21T23:00:16+00:00

Same age as you dude. Never had a girlfriend. Know other guys who have though. Never lasted long though. I have essentially become one of the go-to guys for relationship advice. I'm just going to stay in school and work my ass off. Major in physics or engineering of some sort (most likely) and do it through the NROTC program or USNA (more likely the former).

dsm2k1 · 2017-07-22T00:15:58+00:00

15 here and this is my plan

Finish school
Get a vasectomy asap
Get an apprenticeship/ do self studying (business and web design and other tech area)
enturepueer
???
Profit
If failed then fall back to an apprenticeship for something
Enjoy single life

simplystimpy · 2017-07-22T01:45:26+00:00

Watch out for gaslighting! (look it up) Women may try to make you question yourself, convince you you're a bad person. Trust your own judgment about yourself.

sadpandathrowaway76 · 2017-07-21T21:44:06+00:00

If you drink bad vodka and too much of it.. you will have a huge hangover.. that does not mean you gonna hate all vodka from now on.. well at this particular moment you may feel like you are never gonna touch alcohol ever again but.. Not All Vodkas Are Like That NAVALT (tm).. I mean they are the same.. just different flavors.. all of them can and eventually will cause hangover but its your job to properly dose it and to plan accordingly so you can avoid all the side effects.

And seriously .. Many good advice in comments. I can agree:

Stay in school, but extend curriculum by learning everything they don't do in school and you want to know.
Work smart and save money,
Take care of yourself, health is the most valuable commodity
Don't do drugs, learn how to properly drink vodka instead (when you hit drinking age ofc)
Travel a lot and see the world.

DWShimoda · 2017-07-22T00:46:05+00:00

What should I do to not make the same mistake as many here have?

In that context:

Don't get married.
Don't "cohabitate" either.
Don't let any chick "stay overnight" at your place -- especially not on some regular basis where she starts just "leaving a few things" there -- in fact IDEALLY don't even invite or LET her inside your place.
If you feel you MUST satisfy the urge to "date" etc -- well as much as possible do your "dating" in groups (group date, double date) and/or meet & have the date itself in a PUBLIC place. Gives you "witnesses" to avoid false accusation bullshit, plus it reduces pressures to be "sexy" instead of just interesting & doing non-sex "fun" things -- makes it easier to "go dutch" (i.e. each person pays their own way, buys their own ticket/meal, etc.)
Don't worry about "losing your virginity" -- sex really ISN'T that big of a deal -- yeah it can be pleasurable & fun, but than again so can urinating when your bladder is really full some morning when you have to "piss like a racehorse" (as the saying goes), and even a bowel movement (taking a shit) can feel really good if you've been holding it in/bound up.(But you don't focus your life TRYING to be constipated & having a backed up bladder, do you? Your not PROUD of that piss/crap fest, you don't notch some proverbial bedpost to keep track of your "best eva" bowel movements, you don't BRAG to your buddies in the locker room about it: "Oh man I had the BEST SHIT EVA! last night!!! Dude you gotta quit being a weiner, and lose your constipation-virginity, you can't imagine how great it feels to finally SHIIIIIIIT!")
Never forget that the PRIMARY biological purpose of sex is not pleasure... but reproduction/procreation (i.e. creating more kids) -- so if you DO give-in to the urge to "fuck" make sure you WRAP that sucker up (in YOUR condoms, not hers -- and make certain they're recently bought, not some "freebie" shit you stuck in your wallet 3 years ago) -- and never EVER trust a female that says "Don't worry, I'm on the pill." Who knows she might have accidentally been taking Flintstones vitamins the past 3 weeks (her little brother swapped them); or of course she could just be lying.

Also...
Go ahead and "fap"... try to limit it (frequency etc) so that you don't actually end up with friction-scabs on your dick -- but beyond that don't let anyone feed you any bullshit about "nofap" (neither the "you'll get super powers" idiocy; NOR the "you should be ashamed" nonsense). KNOW that *for the vast majority of men* (married or "Chad" or otherwise) probably somewhere between 80% to 90% of their total lifetime "orgasms" ... will NOT be into a vagina but rather into their hand or some tissue or sock (or whatever); that's a fact.

EDIT...
During High School years -- get OUT of the "high school" environment as much as you can -- by that I mean ideally get involved in some hobby or other activity that lets you meet & ideally WORK with kids from other schools, and EVEN BETTER with an array of "adult" men, preferably on some SERIOUS (and skill building) things. The BEST way in my opinion & experience to avoid the total shitfest of high school "cliques" and "peer pressure" bullshittery... is to be MORE MATURE than your classmates -- to have FULL ADULT "peers" who you are friends with and respect, and who RESPECT you and treat you (at least at times) as if you were already a FULL adult too -- this happens most often in "merit & intelligence" based hobbies and endeavors: geeky nerdy hobby stuff related to engineering, computers, radio controlled planes, rocketry, etc. (Think about it, if there are highly respected, successful MEN who respect YOU and consider your ideas opinions to have at least SOME merit... well are you really gonna give a shit what some 16 year old "wanker" or "wigger" has to say as an insult? Nah, you can blow that off with no problem.)

wawakaka · 2017-07-22T02:32:00+00:00

women are dishonest

women have taken over the world

so the world has become dishonest

so watch your back

CIAC50 · 2017-07-21T20:36:18+00:00

Don't do alcohol,drugs, smoke and religion, be prepared to stand your ground on this because there's always someone wants to get you hooked on these . Save money, investigate careers and trades to determine future employment. Keep fitness at a comfortable level.

0rsus · 2017-07-21T23:15:34+00:00

1.) Graduate High School 2.) Don't have children out of wedlock 3.) Maintain the same job for over a year

If you can do all of those things, I believe the statistics show you have like a 99.9% chance of being a normal, middle-class guy.

MobTilliDie · 2017-07-21T23:28:16+00:00

Create dreams that don't involve women, and never spend time with 'friends' who don't add value to your life. If you do girls, don't get emotionally attached; this means get in and out as quick as possible and use a fucking rubber for chrissakes, if in doubt, double up. Finally, Never feel bad about masturbating.

WidmerBeer · 2017-07-22T01:25:26+00:00

Live like a teenager because you are one. Go fall in love if you want kid, it's the only time you'll be naive enough to believe it. Make sure to wrap it up though. And when she eventually shits all over what the both of you had in exchange for someone she perceives as Chad, usually some older guy with a better car than you and a drug habit to boot, maybe he's in a shitty garage band, maybe he's more popular, maybe even a drug dealer that will see the inside of a prison cell in his life, whatever... you'll see much deeper meaning beneath than the surface.

That deeper meaning is the reason men are waking up and understanding that 'Love and Relationships' is all a charade to keep little beta-bux as her last option if she can't lock down a Chad by the time the wall comes. It's eye opening when you realize that your ex is just like all the other exes everyone else has had- a liar, a cheat, a future CC rider slut for Chad, and of course someone always looking for an upgrade.

Some other teenage advice: Never go to any school functions with a chick that already has a bf, and that includes any exes as well. The only chicks you go to dances and that crap with are single chicks or your current gf/hookup partner.

WanderlustYouth · 2017-07-22T01:55:41+00:00

Remember that when you're 18 or older NEVER I REPEAT NEVER contact girls from your Highschool, happened to a old acquaintance of mine who slept with a chick who said she was 19 when in reality she was 15, now he's on trial, looking at 10-15. Also plow through your studies and work on your muscular development.

hardtostarboard2016 · 2017-07-22T03:56:10+00:00

do not get into a relationship, stay in school instead, excel academically, pursue a stem degree, or anything legal that will get you a lot of money. get rich and secure and then do whatever you want (except get married and give it all to a woman).

MGaccount6 · 2017-07-22T04:05:44+00:00

This isn't really MGTOW it is just how to make the most out of high school.

For me high school was a long, boring grind. If you feel it is the same way just tough it out.
Grades barely matter freshman and sophomore year. What does matter is your overall GPA so unfortunately you have to keep up your grades.
If you are working late on something, I found going to bed and just waking up early is a lot easier.
Study for tests at least 2 days in advance. Always make sure to get a good night's sleep (8+ hours) before a test. I noticed significant memory ability changes with little sleep.
Realize that your extracurriculars get you into a good college. Finding a job in the summer is great but what got me into college are internships (especially if they are relevant to the field you are interested in)
Study for your standardized tests (APs and SAT/ACT). The AP study books are better than your teachers (in my experience). SAT new version is easier than ACT.
Get into a year round workout. Gym or some martial art does wonders for self confidence and health.
3 things that make you cool in high school: girls, drugs, alcohol. My advice is to stay away from all of those; none of them are productive activities. A lot of nerds in high school will get high to relieve stress, try to relieve stress with workouts/sleep/friends.
Make time for friends. Spending time with others made me happy and more productive when I needed to get work done.
Don't hate women. I have terrific females in my family. I just don't waste my time with dating.

AussiePhil82 · 2017-07-22T04:09:37+00:00

Teenagers absolutely should not be dating anyway.

School is for learning and setting yourself up for the future, not wasting effort on girls. Nothing good has ever come from school kids dating each other.

Juxtapointer · 2017-07-22T04:22:26+00:00

Read the entire post history of The Rational Male.

Act as you see fit afterwards.

forensicgenomist · 2017-07-22T05:32:30+00:00

As stated here, don't hate women. Avoid them. It's their nature. You wouldn't blame a snake for biting its prey; don't blame women for trying to fulfil her biological imperative.

Finish high school, but don't go to college/unviersity unless you need to (eg. to become an engineer, a lawyer, or a doctor). Trades are a great, well-paying and fulfilling option.

Save your money and don't spend a dime of it on women.

Shoebomb · 2017-07-22T08:05:26+00:00

your 14 dude, you have your whole life ahead of you. It might be a bit early to swear to mgtow just yet, there still might be the right one out there for you

benincase_ · 2017-07-22T00:46:00+00:00

How do the girls treat the boys in school these days? I was 14 in 1992 so I can only imagine how bad it has become.

ctmu · 2017-07-22T00:57:02+00:00

"I'm 14 and I love this music. I don't care if my friends listen to Justin beaver this is way better"

embaira · 2017-07-22T01:41:01+00:00

Stay away from girls. They will tell you nice things about yourself but that is all lies. Girls play mind games and make you feel like you are some sort of special person but really they do this to make you feel very miserable afterwards. A girl will cheat on you with your best friends. You will lose your best friends because of a girl.

If you want to have sex with girls in future always use you own condoms.

AnotherAceTeeHummR34 · 2017-07-22T02:36:09+00:00

not to go to college

AnonX66 · 2017-07-22T03:14:17+00:00

Don't fuck anyone. And don't give a fuck about anyone.

Yyc_mgtown · 2017-07-22T05:39:41+00:00

At 14 I'd have never had the wisdom to read this bullshit. And at 30+ I realise it's not bullshit. Hormones will be your enemy the closer you get to chick the worse your ability to think.

They can be fun but will wreck you in the end. I thought I had a soul mate at 16, bi-sexual reformed slut aged 16. I think she is dead now. If not old an ugly as f#$k.

Save money, take care of yourself (mental health, physical health). Take up a hobby.

AR96 · 2017-07-22T11:45:37+00:00

Join a sport to get your mind and body busy with something. Lifting, imo, is really therapeutic. You go at your own pace and release a shitload of pent up anger

kafka-tamura · 2017-07-22T12:49:20+00:00

Read. A Lot. Dont get trapped in one up man ship, be patient and wait your turn. Aim for perfection in whatever motivates you.

nigelh · 2017-07-22T14:58:22+00:00

Become educated, smart and through that rich doing something you enjoy.
Do not believe the 'happily ever after' fairy story the media pushes at you because it isn't true.
Have a good life with lots of fun things in it.

benincase_ · 2017-07-22T19:21:52+00:00

Ayyyyy!!!!! Fellow high schooler!!!

kushtoma451 · 2017-07-21T23:27:18+00:00

Don't have babies while young. If you're going to drink alcohol and smoke weed wait till you're out of high school and do in moderation. I've seen many of my peers in high school come to class high every other day and now I'm in my late 20s and their lives are a mess. I'd strongly advise against marriage, it's just such a horrible deal for men. A little early for someone whose 14yrs of age and probably not thinking about finances but I'd look into investing or trading if I were you. Look up Patrice O' Neal and watch some of his videos on youtube

El---Rey · 2017-07-22T14:37:59+00:00

Kind of MGTOW related-

Work really hard at school and don't get distracted and waste time on useless stuff on the internet.

TimVertex · 2017-07-21T21:50:37+00:00

The fact that you had to state that you hate women made me think this is a fake post xD

Title	I'm 14. Any advice?
Author	_powerpug
Upvotes	34
Comments	54
Date	July 21, 2017 7:38 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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