Incel guy here, finally seeing the light

cheesymold · 2017-04-17T08:34:41+00:00

I apologize for seeming like a trader to the incel forum, because I'm not trying to seem that way at all. I just understand that women will leave for the next best thing they can get. I always thought I was inferior and ugly(which to be fair, I am a pretty ugly guy, but I digress). Then I realized that cheating and rejection and other issues like that even happens to "top notch" celebrities and the like. The way I see it is, if you are part of a society that doesn't accept you and wants to see you lose, just opt out of it and do your own thing. Thanks for reading this post.

cashmoney_x · 2017-04-17T13:01:46+00:00

Dude, listen to me very carefuly. When you're on the outside looking in it's easy to focus on the benefits and miss the negatives. I've been married, engaged, lived with three girls and had multiple ltr's and two one night stands. I did all that sappy bullshit, I fucked like an animal, I cried, I broke up with, i got broken up with, I fucked poorly, I yearned, I spent too much money, i got sucked into crap that I didn't want to do (hello 400k house), I lost touch with friends and stopped my hobbies, I changed and lost who I was, I cuddled and kissed and everything in between.

And now that I have not touched a woman in nearly five years and live alone in my own house I can tell you that my life has NEVER BEEN BETTER. Not even fucking close. You're free and you're looking in on the prisoners with envy. I get why but FUCK THAT. It's 20% the shit u imagine and then 80% nonsense- women are fucking ridiculous creatures and not "nice" like they pretend.

I traded bullshit weekends at Ikea and the inlaws for playing my drums, hanging out with friends, playing video games for 12 hours straight and whatever the fuck else I want. I also have disposable income and total, absolute freedom. No one EVER questions or criticizes me and I get to be ME 100% of the time.

You're lucky as fuck. You get to live like you're 12 with the benefits of adulthood mixed in (control, freedom, money). Get out there and HAVE FUN.

HIGHLORDOFSHITSTAINS · 2017-04-17T09:21:46+00:00

I.. HIGH.. LORD.. OF.. SHIT STAINS!!!!!

KING.. OF.. POO'SWELLINGTON!!!!

SON.. OF.. SHART'TINGDOM!!!

WELCOMES.. YOU.. BROTHER!!!

Welcome to the dark side of the moon.

Yeah big dog.. do you yo thang big slick pimpin. I personally thank god every day that I'm ugly as fuck and ain't a "pretty boy".. god knows what they go through.

Welcome!

Knowmadik · 2017-04-17T09:30:36+00:00

Incels have a tough road, because on one side of the fence they haven't experienced female nature first hand, and it's hard to believe what you haven't directly experienced.

Welcome to your own way. Be warned though that if you acquire wealth, women will notice. Just remember that they are not after you. They are after YOURS.

feedmecarrots · 2017-04-17T10:28:09+00:00

I haven't been over to that reddit. Are all the guys there as hard on themselves? When I heard that Angelina Jolie dumped Brad Pitt, something inside tore. No man is immune, no matter how high his sexual market value.

enlightenedmgtow · 2017-04-17T13:42:31+00:00

I've been through many stages. I've been the foreveralone subscriber, ive been the PUA, and I've been the MGTOW. Let me tell ya, the effort you have to put in to game women is just not worth it.

Also they are boring and entitled af

OldRoad · 2017-04-17T12:25:50+00:00

As some people on here have noted, there is really no such thing as an incel. It would just be a matter of lowering one's standards further and further. But who would want to do that?

I don't attract women very easily, and I think you'll find your confidence with MGTOW. Once you go MGTOW, most of the stupid stuff that people worry about, like how they look, is no longer an issue. Because most of that stuff, quite honestly, is pretty useless other than for dating. For getting stuff done in the real world, you want someone strong, smart, hardworking, etc.

You'll likely get satisfaction from at least having some philosophy that explains your experiences, and explains it in a way that doesn't make it took like your fault that women didn't date you, when you likely believe that wasn't the case.

All these people that thought they were better than you because of what they looked like, MGTOW turns that upside-down. Because MGTOW makes physical appearance become pretty useless, while things that you actually can affect by working hard, like learning skills, are celebrated. And really, that truth is on the MGTOW side. It's just that the mainstream likes to pretend that the romantic relationship world is fair and that there's someone for everyone -- a polite fiction that does who-knows-how-much damage to the confidence of anyone who discovers that it doesn't appear to be reasonably true, via their own experiences.

You'll also find the guys here who could attract women easily, and they had such bad experiences that they went MGTOW. They had what many guys thought was the best world, and then found out that it wasn't something that they wanted. I know that stuff really got me out of the attitude of feeling bad about my life, and thinking that I was missing out.

Good luck!

IslandicFreedom · 2017-04-17T21:21:20+00:00

Only thing I can add to this, which is a reminder to us all is don't stroke egos.

Many men while walking past an attractive woman even feel obligated to look at her, in a sense paying homage to her beauty. Many also want some validation by doing this as a way to gauge their own attractiveness. Stop doing this. 9 times out of 10, the only thing going through her mind is "Oh another guy looking at me I guess I look good today" -> It's just feeding the problem but ultimately it will make you feel worse. By not eyeing out the girls all the time, you're also taking a stance -> You're refusing to give something away and get nothing back in return. Bottom line is they don't deserve you stroking their egos.

Same applies for complimenting women. In the office scenario, etc. Stop doing this. Don't say shit like "You look nice today" or "Did you get your hair cut". In your mind you might be thinking - maybe I'll be nice and make someones day a bit better. In her mind she's thinking "Wow that's creepy he might want to fuck me". These kind of harmless compliments used to be normal, but as feminism creeps ever closer, really check yourself on this, and again - What have you got to gain from this? Nothing.

If you're dating, don't automatically like all the girls you find attractive, just because they're attractive. Again it's free validation, and you've spent your time on bullshit. Instead only like women you think you actually stand a chance with, and down vote or swipe left the ones you don't regardless on how attractive they are. If every guy did this, most of these princesses would have pretty shit ratings.

Don't otherwise nest at the feet of women. Don't flirt with clerks or bar girls, or any shit like this. If you want a women, go out and find one, clerks and bar staff get hit on all the time, all you're doing is stroking their egos.

So that's my limited response to feminism, it isn't very much, I know - but I'm not here to solve the issues with feminism. I have some limited control over the limited interactions I have with females - since they're not standing up to feminism and have adopted this way of life, that's my way of giving them equality. Simply put not to even treat them like any random guy, actually treat them a bit like a guy but with leprosy.

2017-04-17T16:28:36+00:00

Thanks for being so supportive everyone. I can see a few people in here aren't too fond of incels going MGTOW, understandable, but I'm not the type that would throw a guy under the bus for a woman, I've never been like that. I've actually had other guys do that to me personally so I know how it feels. I just have come to see how women play guys like flutes and how hypergamous they are. I'm not going MGTOW because I can't get laid regardless of what anyone believes, I'm going MGTOW because I've heard stories of guys getting screwed over, and I think there should be more support and care for guys that get everything taken from them because they decided to get involved with the wrong woman.

LiftinMigger69 · 2017-04-17T08:28:08+00:00

Great your toilet is blocked and you realize you need a plumber to fix it. Now you can get your reward. The best reward there is.

Mac290 · 2017-04-17T13:28:18+00:00

Welcome. This sub is about empowerment in the only way available. That sub is about wallowing in misery.

a17c81a3 · 2017-04-17T20:49:27+00:00

Dude women find 80% of men ugly, 10% passable and only the last 10% attractive.

So yeah, don't base your worth on that. Women are just something you buy with money.

2017-04-17T08:54:24+00:00

Welcome home, brother!

gods_bones · 2017-04-17T10:29:26+00:00

Welcome. You can atone for your previous sins by defending MGTOW the next time some troll comes into this sub claiming we are the same thing as incels.

2017-04-17T09:16:17+00:00

Thank you all for the welcomes, I do appreciate it. I just figured it was time to stop being societies pawn and time to do my own thing. I really like this sub Reddit and the knowledge that it has to offer, thanks again.

sukhoi_tractor · 2017-04-17T12:18:36+00:00

Welcome! I think you'll find a more positive, life-affirming attitude here.

pilledwillingly · 2017-04-17T18:00:58+00:00

I'd caution you from identifying yourself MGTOW just yet. Yes, it is a great way to live, but if you have a primal urge to fuck someone that you have attracted, then you will fail at MGTOW.

The way I see it, you've walked into a rehab clinic, you've never touched drugs or alcohol in your life but you've felt their negative effects, and you want to be one of the guys in recovery. I'm not saying you're in the wrong place, you may belong here - but choosing a restrictive lifestyle before actually trying what we're recovering from may just lead you into temptation in the long run.

Just food for thought.

Asbestasio · 2017-04-17T23:38:50+00:00

ugly guy here. i have a job, a car, i live on my own. a couple of women, ugly ones or fat or both, have started to show interest. i would rather lose one of my balls than having to deal with any of them.

JohnWicksPencil · 2017-04-17T21:39:02+00:00

Start living life as a single man, with no thoughts to a future with a woman. By that I mean avoid the trappings of modern life that come with a woman/relationship/marriage/kids.

These are the real millstone around the neck, sure it doesn't start off that way, but this is how she expects it to end: A nice house in a good school district or private school for 2-3 kids, not hanging with your friends anymore, blowing money on "doing things" because god forbid you don't have plans, working long hours to get that money, newer vehicles, etc, etc, until she divorces you and takes it all away, and you're worse off than where you were 20 years ago.

It all comes in the same package. Avoid women, avoid all of it, figure out what YOU really want and go for that. For me, it's focusing on my hobbies and being out in nature by myself.

Malefics · 2017-04-17T14:32:54+00:00

Welcome brother. Your new life begins today!

2017-04-17T18:06:14+00:00

Incels will always wonder "what if". You can't be true mgtow if you never had the option of choosing women in the first place. Don't force it young grasshopper. Your nature compels you towards the opposite sex. Just don't marry em or impregnate them. Fuck em and date em if you will. Only after experiencing them will you then be able to confidently decide if the way of the mgtow is yours as well.

MiaaaAs · 2017-04-17T22:10:19+00:00

Is ugly still a thing in 2017 for men ? if it bothers you so much you can always work out and develop a body, do your hair by a style-list once and maintain it, get a tan, Whiten your teeth, fuck knows ... also having a silky smooth face is not an expensive treatment these days. Or you can just ignore all that and chase money. and then do what ever the hell you wanna do, females will notice either way. But being pretty is still important, for men and women alike. Your problems derive from your self perception, I know many men who look horrid but are sought after, all about self perception. Watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJDOAXwj1Js&t=93s

TruckNutz69 · 2017-04-18T04:05:40+00:00

The way is self improvement. Everyone makes mistakes. We learn from them. Mistakes are experiences. Experience breeds confidence and we get experience by venturing outside our comfort zones. Women are attracted to men who have self assurance. And, along the lines of what you said, your worth isn't tied up in what a woman thinks of you. Even when you have companionship, that's not the end all, be all. Companionship can come and go. You were born alone and you'll die alone. In between you'll experience the joy of companionship here and there. But in the end, the only thing you really control is yourself. You can choose to waste your life putting your hopes in other people or you can go your own way. When you go your own way you'll find that the nature of companionship is that it finds you, not the other way around.

SCROTAL-SACK · 2017-04-17T14:17:17+00:00

I fucking hate it when incels post here. The men here have had, and made the choice to pass up women, because they know what a raw deal it always turns out to be. MGTOW aren't losers pretending to go their own way. They're divorced guys who've been put through the meat-grinder, I mean really put out of house and home by a vindictive woman, had their life turned upside down and destroyed. Also, bachelors and men who have seen how the female mind works, and have chosen to avoid it. With all-due respect, we can't empathise with someone so obsessed over the pussy that they put themselves down, then pretend to go their own way in spite of it. Just know this before you call yourself mgtow. The image has been destroyed by incels.

Understand this isn't a personal attack on you. You've explained yourself, but the fucking losers who join this forum thinking they're with brothers, and they're only doing it because they have no choice can fuck right off. Incels are the enemy of mgtow because they would fuck over another man at the mere whiff of pussy.

Title	Incel guy here, finally seeing the light
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Date	April 17, 2017 8:22 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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