MGTOW, but massive beta

Dadeh · 2019-06-03T20:20:57+00:00

Is this an admission or are you seeking advice in order to reshape yourself?

These qualities can change over time if you're willing to put the work in.

From what I'm reading is that you lack confidence in yourself, that you've been feminized by media.

How was your relationship with your father? What kind of man was he?

I'm not saying any of this to belittle you, not at all, but to help you if that's what you're looking for.

We have a sidebar with plenty of things such as stoicism.

Get in the gym, it will help with your confidence and self esteem. There isn't anything beta about enjoying what you enjoy. Here there are no "Alphas" or "Betas", here we are just men, we go through plights, and help one another out.

Some spin plates, some disregard society, some pump and dump, some are married.

Some are like you, ones that see the value in themselves and not to give up who they are in search of a unicorn.

The thing is, are you disregarding women because you're afraid of them, or are you doing it because you've digested the redpill? There is a significant difference, as being afraid means you don't understand them. While being redpilled means you do and understand how horrible of an investment it is for you.

I'm happy you made a post, came out of your shell, and admitted your insecurities. It takes being strong to do it openly, so you're not "Beta" for it. Especially if you've come to seek guidance on how to be a better man. Although, it's subjective, no one can tell you who you are.. but you. If you're happy being you, don't let anyone change you but you.

jstrockmeyer · 2019-06-03T20:11:56+00:00

First and foremost, don't show your caring side in public. As long as none of this shows (other than with real friends) it will be better.

hiroshimatruthbombs · 2019-06-03T23:44:54+00:00

Spotted it was a troll post.

Then saw the edit.

Came here to take the piss and left understanding and investigating the rationale and logic behind MGTOW philosophy.

This, my friends, is why MGTOW is on an exponential rise.

Keep being you ya awesome bunch of red pilled bastards 👍🏻

DangZagnut · 2019-06-03T20:14:18+00:00

The whole alpha/beta crap are memes, they don't really mean anything. It's mostly incel speak.

Also, who cares? I eat ceviche and make mead. I've never seen an alpha meme where someone eats ceviche and makes mead.

Does being prone to violence make one alpha? I'm pretty sure that just makes someone get a felony record and end up parking cars for a living.

[deleted] · 2019-06-03T20:13:28+00:00

MGTOW is not about being an alpha male, but about being yourself and living your life.
Take good care of yourself and aim to make yourself happy - and you should become more and more content and confident with yourself as you grow.

Being stoic and cold does help, especially when you're like that towards women in order to keep them at a distance, but it doesn't mean that you cannot be emotional when on your own or when with friends.

That's how I see it, anyway.

eduardkoopman · 2019-06-03T20:48:03+00:00

I def don't feel like an alpha male

Alpha male, is a flaud and even less then pseudo-science concept.

Secondly. It would be better to not judge personality traits as: good/bad. But as: a centrain character trait has advnatages and disagvantages.
like you're an agreeable person, instead of a disagreeable person. So advanatges are that people like you, it's relaxed and nice to spend time around/with you, and you're helptfull; the disadvatges is that you do alot of things you actually don't want, don't ask/get what you want, and are at higher risk of getting taken advantage off.

Read about the 5 personality traits. they mioght be a good starting pint for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfI4BEONsng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_E0qtqc0QQ

user_miki · 2019-06-03T21:09:31+00:00

Listen if you want to get rid of beta thinking forever, do like this.

Take a skydiving class and jump with a parachute from a plane or a bungee jumping training and jump from a tall bridge.After that come back and tell us about your beta side,again.

blacktortoise69 · 2019-06-03T21:38:26+00:00

-hit the gym -never complain -show confidence, we are all faking it. Get good at it. -get money -save money

GYOW

Careful_Description · 2019-06-03T23:14:43+00:00

Hey man, crying is not a problem. Men as a class are dehumanized and crying is part of being human. Don't let society get to you. They were gonna try and beat you while you're down anyways. So cry if you need to.

Leon_Q83 · 2019-06-03T20:13:51+00:00

Walking through the train station and my quadriceps are flexing as I'm walking. Making my usually loose straight cut Jean's look like those faggy skinny Jean's because I'm so fucking ripped bro. Can't walk from A to B without getting stared at by hungry holes. Got that I dont give a fuck attitude. I'm so good. Too good for these holes.

RupturedGlass · 2019-06-03T20:17:01+00:00

Just go lift or take fighting classes

ElMatador_33 · 2019-06-03T20:21:22+00:00

Think beyond Alpha and Beta. You’re lost as long as you look at life that simplistically.

CiceroVoltaire · 2019-06-03T20:22:03+00:00

be yourself, but ask yourself are these traits you exhibit because of how you were raised / what you were taught? is this who you really are and want to be?

sounds like you were raised by a single mother and any male role models you had were simps. You can't blame yourself for how you were raised, but you can learn and connect to your inner self, as a man. Up to you if you want to unlearn what feminazism told you being a "real man" is, and learn to become a man yourself?

All the men in my family who raised me were ex-military (Army, Navy/Coast Guard, Marines), my gradads, great uncles and dad volunteered, my uncles were drafted. it was also a different time with traditional roles and values. from the time I was about 7 years old, their expectations of my behavior were well taught and enforced.

mgtow_daddy · 2019-06-03T20:36:15+00:00

Who cares. Give yourself time. Build your power. Avoid fighting where there’s nothing to win (which is most of the time). Remember, running fast is the best defence.

Everyting else, stoicism and not giving a fuck comes with age. A young boy, even if he’s ripped, can’t project the power of a man. There’s a reason native americans had elder leaders. Actually still the usa has a minimum age for a president.

Also, I watch Greys Anatomy and sometimes it brings tears to my eyes. Nothing wrong with that, privatly men are very emotional. I mean just listen to most music... its’s born out of male emotions.

[deleted] · 2019-06-03T21:52:57+00:00

Not about being objectively alpha or beta. It’s about being a man with your own struggles, which is what you are. All your problems can be fixed by getting some self confidence. You sound like you go through a lot of anxiety, which is probably making you think irrationally.

profesor_chaos · 2019-06-04T15:17:12+00:00

This is why I love this sub. You came here to troll us because you had a preconceived notion about mgtow. You were accepted as a flawed man and given genuine advice from fellow brothers. You took that advice, accepted responsibility, owned up to your true intentions, and joined the brotherhood of men going their own way... Whatever you decide your way is.

Welcome home brother.

53withtrollhair · 2019-06-03T20:35:26+00:00

So what. This is who YOU are. You are going to make YOUR way in the world. Don't give a fvck about whatever anyone else thinks. Think about yourself first. Sounds like you are quite self aware. Want to start on a path of expanding your horizons- start by watching documentaries, read a newspaper- keep up on current events. Not every man is Chuck Norris, if you can't fight, walk away.

Just keep getting your daily dose of Red Pills, you will be miles ahead in 10 years. Grow and learn and enjoy life on your terms.

It is about you, not anyone else.

RedPilledSimp · 2019-06-03T20:54:19+00:00

Look at my username and draw conclusions OP.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2019-06-03T21:27:28+00:00

MGTOW is only defined by who or how you validate yourself. If you are into self-validation, meaning that you do not seek validation from a woman or from society, you are MGTOW. You can drink all the soy and romantic comedies you want, that doesn't make you less of a MGTOW. It does make you less masculine, but those are different things.

Ironically, you asking about these things (am I really a MGTOW if I cry alot?) actually makes you less of a MGTOW, because you are trying to seek validation from others, in this case it just happens to be other men. Again, that has nothing to do with "would guys kick your ass in a fight?", it's more that you think this is even relevant to begin with and you're asking us if that matters.

If you were really MGTOW, you wouldn't care what we thought about you.

DopamineFiend92 · 2019-06-04T05:21:08+00:00

Start boxing. It gives you energy, confidence (which keeps you cool headed in the face of potential confrontation), and self esteem. Also improves your muscle tone and general fitness (feels great).

Title	MGTOW, but massive beta
Author	RupturedGlass
Upvotes	36
Comments	25
Date	June 3, 2019 8:08 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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