MGTOW expectations

codemoney · 2015-01-28T13:42:26+00:00

Not waiting for anything. Just doing my own thing.

TFCNU · 2015-01-28T17:17:02+00:00

Traditional gender roles are as anathema to me as feminism. I'm MGTOW because I have no interest in being a protector/provider.

drkstrs · 2015-01-28T16:08:57+00:00

predictions of imminent catastrophe are as old as the hills and usually wrong. you may be waiting a long, long time. best to live for today, dealing with things as they are

trashgame · 2015-01-28T13:57:28+00:00

i started reading itulip.com in the middle of 2007, and was preparing for a collapse. so, i got tired of waiting for a collapse. now 7 years later, i found MGTOW, and am no longer waiting for a collapse. i read zerohedge when i feel like news, but itulip.com has not updated his theoretical forecast.

i have lost faith in a collapse. i recently see the wars beginning in the Ukraine as the USA fighting for the Dollar monetary system (edit: Russia-China economic relationship), and doubt that the USA will lose control. i also don't watch any of the popular zombie or collapse TV shows, and feel that anything marketed that way is probably "too bad to be true". i can imagine a gradual and controlled long recession "collapse" as seems to be happening now. like a Japanese style collapse, with their Japanese style central banking decisions.

Falazure1 · 2015-01-28T15:53:54+00:00

At this point I am quite set in my ways, been living alone now for 11-12 years and I don't think anything at this point will drive me to marry/settle into a married life... If I do ever decide to settle down it will be for my own reasons and not those of the economy or social atmosphere, and it will be on my own terms.

govt_took_my_baby · 2015-01-28T22:48:12+00:00

What you have to realise is that men who have chosen this path are no longer attached to feminism or traditional gender roles - they don't affect us. The idea is to minimise interaction with that which doesn't benefit yourself. So if there is a collapse or isn't, it makes no odds - we'll still be doing our own thing for ourselves.

I think there's a big misconception that MGTOW is equivalent to a non-violent protest, that we're trying to affect a change or something, but it's not a matter of customers refusing to shop at the store, or shipping elsewhere - we're not customers at all.

Traditional or modern gender roles relate men to women; they mean precisely dick all

Watchful1ntervention · 2015-01-29T01:46:48+00:00

I don't want fatherhood or marriage. Even if the laws changed overnight to make these not self-destructive and financially suicidal, they still inhibit my personal freedom to live my life as I wish.

Would I like to see society change to be more equitable? Most definitely. However, I am going to live my life according to what "is," and not what "should be." I didn't GMOW with the intent to change anything outside of my own life. My decisions are based on self-preservation and advancing my personal goals.

MisterManWay · 2015-01-29T01:58:37+00:00

Fantastic question. I have had this phrase rattling around in my head for years.

"The last thing a society does before it disappears is empower its women."

Suppose that enough guys embrace MGTOW to reach some kind of critical mass. We can remake the world we want it. Put some distances between the sexes again. Beautiful dream. I'm not sure we'll live to see it happen. Might take generations.

TAUK2014 · 2015-01-28T17:14:11+00:00

or a social "collapse" of femenism? are men waiting for a return to traditonal gender roles MGTOW or MRA?

If such a thing were to take place, there will be a whole load of failed independent women^TM. You think we are dumb enough to white knight for a bunch of failures?

Vendetta36 · 2015-01-30T16:12:17+00:00

I really don't care. As others have mentioned, I'm just doing my own thing. If a collapse happens, I'll deal with it the best I can just like everything else in life.

Mortikhi · 2015-01-28T13:39:47+00:00

I want an economic one, that way the country will split apart like the USSR did back in the 80s. It seems to be the only way to stop the onslaught of idiot laws from blue States.

Lucius_Martius · 2015-01-28T16:33:02+00:00

I am hoping for some great crash in economy, abandonment of the america-centric ultra-capitalism-worshiping anti-humanist regime that has infested germany and a complete redesign of the sociopolitical environment that's about to happen in the next ten to twenty years as far as my hope goes. But then again it all could descend into the same flaming trainwreck that is the american society. That's impossible to predict for now.

But all that does not have anything to do with my manhood anyway. I am far from being in any way traditional anyway and more of a progressive type of person. I will no more try to fit in and just live my own life.

doublereignbeau · 2015-01-29T01:36:40+00:00

I'm waiting for the collapse of the spoiled princess industry. Then I can search for the legendary NAWALT female bro. She will still need to pay for her half of everything. And be willing to settle down without getting married. I already found one but she's the wrong color.

BobScratchit · 2015-01-29T14:11:04+00:00

This may seem really far out as far as thinking goes on this subject but I believe the internal combustion engine has made a log of MANual labor obsolete. As far as a collapse goes, I am a peak oil believer and think we will run out of oil very abruptly. I have no idea when this will happen but I think that is when traditional men will make a return. I am however not waiting for this to happen. I figure 90% of the world population will die if it does.

edit: log = lot

2015-05-08T16:18:35+00:00

Non-US perspective on the US here... the great advantage the US has is not necessarily on trade, currency or military power... but in freedom and technological innovation compared to other countries, because your economic system encourages it so much (at the same time being "unforgiving"). As long as these advantages remain, I don't see a "collapse", but more of a "slow shift".

Title	MGTOW expectations
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Date	January 28, 2015 12:14 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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