MGTOW is overrun

TempleOfIron · 2018-06-03T10:45:20+00:00

Yup. Good luck tradcons. The only con here is your own deluded traditional belief system.

Francais74 · 2018-06-03T10:48:39+00:00

be aware of the taditional woman

they are the most dangerous and hypocrite

they want to rest home and push the buttons

the button of the washing machine

the button of the dishwasher
the button of the aspirator
the button of the dryer

They want become the buttons-wife while you are going diying at work for her

dialecticwizard · 2018-06-03T10:36:35+00:00

Which is why i hate it when even trump supporters talk about family values and stuff like that

chalchium · 2018-06-03T15:25:30+00:00

I used to be left-minded when I was young, and later right-mind. But after transitioning to MGTOW, I lost interests in both. Left and right are disgusting.

Leftist cucks would not hesitate to do anything to please their female overlords. They will tell you that alpha is a myth (the best fail I have seen), women are oppressed and tax everything to save their THOTS.

The right is not much better. The most religious women are the most hypocritical, and their family values constantly bangs my head. I feel like a criminal when they knew I do not plan to marry.

We will need a new political system where there is no left and right, but common sense.

honda_vfr · 2018-06-03T13:08:40+00:00

> MGTOW is overrun

I don't think so.

Older_Miggy · 2018-06-03T15:00:23+00:00

As a conservative, i'm guessing you're part of what I call the Pathetic Left which accuses us of the exact same things Democrats engage in (racism, hatred, violence towards women, etc.).

So how 'bout you give us a few examples, otherwise STFU.

TakuanNoho · 2018-06-03T11:41:45+00:00

Libertarian is the way to go unless polls are tied neck and neck with Conservatives and Liberals. Then you go Conservative if you absolutely HAVE to. As a Right Libertarian this is what I usually do.

DigitalScetis · 2018-06-03T14:46:05+00:00

Conservatives will fail because they have nothing to bargain with in this arena. All they ever had were threats and schemes to punish men for the shit women do.

But they have ran out of punishments to inflict men with. And now all they have are threats ("If you don't get on the plantation, the Muslims will put forth Sharia law," as if Sharia law wouldn't be better for men than it is under the conservative gynocracy).

As they give the eternal pussy pass to women, and will protect it to the death, they cannot fix the problems.

savourtheflavor · 2018-06-03T15:30:35+00:00

Liberals want to reach deeper into your pockets for the tax dollars they need to fund single moms bad behavior. Look into Lyndon Johnson and “The Great Society.” A significant portion of the marriage dystopia we talk about here can be traced back to these policies. Once women were allowed to marry the state the whole dynamic shifted.

When society backstops failing marriages (with alimony) and children born to single mothers you get a generation raised by women. Liberalism literally aids women in making the poor decisions they make.

GimmeDaScoobySnacks · 2018-06-03T15:22:05+00:00

It`s not going to work this time. Technology and the fact that shit is nuclear levels of fucked up. Men are waking up and realizing marriage is pointless and freedom is better.

Sir_manalot · 2018-06-03T15:45:05+00:00

Both sides of the political spectrum are certainly fucked today in 2018. But I think the point of MGTOW isn't so much that we agree or disagree with any particular political ideology, but rather disagree with where society in general has gone in regards to:

How women have been conditioned and allowed to act in modern society
How gynocentric our legal system is and how it screws men hard
How society has attempted to denigrate and devalue men and masculinity

Our solution here, unlike groups like MensRights and RedPill (that in many cases still believe that NAWALT) is to just disassociate ourselves with women and enjoy our lives.

That being said, if I had to look at the political landscape in regards to all of this, while both parties have contributed to the fall of society to where it is today, the significant player in it is the hard left that even to this day continues to fight against men. If I had to pick any party and it's ideals, it would have to be the right. They're never going to get what they want, but at least as a concept the family model in a non-gynocentric, non-divorce happy society created a more stable social fabric once upon a time than the complete utter mess we're in now.

Phantom_Spark · 2018-06-03T10:51:59+00:00

Well... it’s difficult to publicly say... to hell with women and marriage. You will focus on your money and a good life.

If you’re a major public figure... I doubt that would go well. Unless you pull a Trump love and publicly tell people you don’t give a damn. You didn’t ask their opinion. As long as you do your job, that’s all that matters. And anyone who wants to challenge you, should be ready to have their life investigated and attacked. See how it feels on the other side.

comptejete · 2018-06-03T18:48:26+00:00

The genies of birth control, female emancipation and political enfranchisement are out of the bottle. The traditional family is not coming back in a democracy.

Plan your life accordingly.

Mister_Mask · 2018-06-03T15:15:06+00:00

Don't be ridiculous. All self respecting reasonable men think that tattoos are disgusting, porn is the work of Satan, having slightly quirky sexual tastes makes you a mentally disturbed degenerate, being gay is result of being emasculated and the only women you can trust are good Christian girls who don't even know what a penis looks like.

(Obvious sarcasm should be fucking obvious)

sphinx2626 · 2018-06-03T15:58:38+00:00

Dude lets not depart too far from science and evolution. MGTOW is result of the legal bias and cultural/values war. These two factors culminated in a dangerous pairbonding environment. I hope there is always a push for our natural state as a familial species. These types of people are ones you need to help understand the reality of the situation. Help them refocus there efforts against the issues that make men see the wisdom of MGTOW.

balancedben · 2018-06-03T16:06:00+00:00

yeah .... these tradcons are a bunch of ass wipes no doubt about it. that's not to say the libtards are the solution though. in time's past marriage was more beneficial to everyone involved and the man had power. that was good. still, the more elevated of men still opted out of marriage and did what they felt compelled to do from the likes of such great inventors as nikola tesla to the greek philosophers to the sages of india.

freeman84 · 2018-06-03T16:56:10+00:00

That's the beauty of MGTOW though, it's not a movement or group. Sure we come here to share thoughts as like-minded individuals, but at the end of the day we're our own man and can simply walk away. If there ends up being frauds that try to hijack the idea and turn it into a movement or group, the real MGTOWs will simply walk away and expose the frauds.

dialecticwizard · 2018-06-03T22:07:30+00:00

Tradcons are anti men. They blame/put responsible men for x thing, even when it's women's fault. They want to go back to the 60s-70s when be a slave for pussy was acceptable.

This is so pathetic.

rationalthought314 · 2018-06-03T22:42:17+00:00

the system works off the back of wage slaves and the best overseers are women whipping men to work and provide for their insatiable needs

WolfgangBreitweit · 2018-06-03T13:02:58+00:00

They just want back to the grass huts.

xdrunkagainx · 2018-06-03T15:41:23+00:00

Liberals destroyed traditional marriage so long ago that conservative women don't know what it is anymore.

ILoveJuices · 2018-06-03T16:03:05+00:00

It's authoritarian. Liberal and conservative are irrelevant.

realChebz · 2018-06-03T18:17:27+00:00

who cares. Do you need other people to tell you how to go YOUR own way?

RadikalesRadiergummi · 2018-06-03T20:07:22+00:00

Iam full MGTOW since iam 20, and even monk for 2 years now. Women just ain't worth my time, money and effort.

But if the deal would be better, if the state would not blindly favour females, if the society would value thinks like honesty, loyalty and family again, i may would date again.

Female nature never changes, all i would want is the state, society and potential woman to make a relationship worth the downsides. Which is not the case at the moment and probably never will be within the next generations.

Thats not the same with being a tradcuck, who thinks finding a "traditional woman" will solve all problems. Who dosen't know sh1t about female nature. Who thinks marriage is worth anything for a man today.

Not all MGTOWs are the same and iam always a little bit pissed if a post here (no matter what is says) directly or indirectly claims to speak for all MGTOWs.

No wonder some outsiders think we are a "cult" or a "movement".

Oh and btw: I really can not see how MGTOW - let it be this subreddit, the forum or YouTube channels - are "overrun" by conservatives. Its mostly the opposite: Most conservatives mock and shame us just like the feminists do.

So as long as the OP delivers some proof for that, i have to label this thread as "fake news" - and downvote it.

Oberon_Swanson · 2018-06-04T00:50:05+00:00

I think this is a very important point and am glad it's getting a lot of attention.

Guys, we didn't have it good in the 1950s. Being able to provide for a family with one job is nice. But HAVING to provide for a family with one job, is not nice at all.

The people who are the best manipulators arne't the ones who coerce you into doing something you know you don't really want to do but end up doing it anyway. The best manipulators are the ones who make you think you're getting everything you want, and it's your idea.

Think about things like religion or, as a simple example, horoscopes. The people most likely to believe in horoscopes are the ones with the 'cool, positive' signs like leo or scorpio. People are more likely to believe a religion if it tells them they're the special chosen ones. A promise of being in charge in the afterlife. Being part of the 'master race.' Being born in 'the best country in the world, with the best people, and I'll kill and die to defend it.'

Likewise you should beware anyone telling you adhering to their ideology and supporting it will promise you a better future where your inherent superiority will be recognized and rewarded. It all sounds very tempting. It's how others will get you to live and die for them, not yourself.

And yes, that does include many posts on this sub who denigrate women or praise men. What a lucky coincidence that you're born an awesome man and not a shitty woman, right? Why not listen to more of what this guy is saying?

So when someone tells you, we need to go back to traditional families, HINT HINT with a MAN in charge WINK WINK you should wonder what exactly they're trying to get you into.

Eadon_ · 2018-06-04T01:16:30+00:00

Vote for the Libertarians, they believe everyone should have the freedom to do what they want. That means they don't give a damn if you're a mgtow, your freedom to be so.

its_meKnightSwolaire · 2018-06-03T16:49:57+00:00

Islam treats women like property.

They are spreading faster and out breeding the rest of the world 🌎

It’s working for them....

Mchooofer · 2018-06-03T18:30:19+00:00

But Islam is ready to replace men in the west. And the elite don't care if they are white or not. I'd say they prefer Islam.

savourtheflavor · 2018-06-03T20:00:28+00:00

You gave me a lot to unpack. I’ll quote you and then respond.

“The right wing has no qualms about it, for them men are disposable slaves”

I don’t know why you say “right wing, but working for someone does not make you a “disposable slave,” it’s a choice you make. Free association is a big part of MGTOW and conservatism. You also have the freedom to be a man and acquire knowledge to improve your situation. Hell, being a man willing to work and learn to later be a free man working for himself might be the greatest thing about America.

“the conservative is naturally an hypocrite and wants to impose on others what he doesnt want on himself.”

Conservatism to me is about wanting less government and leaving you the fuck alone. What conservative policy imposes on you? The left literally votes for higher taxes to pay for a lot of stuff I don’t need or use as a single man. If a man wants to be a trad-con and get married and have 5 kids that’s his business. Just fucking pay for it yourself. Don’t tax me to do it. MGTOW doesn’t mean everyone has to be single.

“the only weapon the left has against mgtows is to create a strawman argument. That is easily defeated. While the right wing will acknowledge what mgtow is and consider it degeneracy, and try all their best to eliminate it.”

If you think people on the left don’t vote you’ve lost your mind. They vote for policies that take your hard earned money. What person on the right, “right wing” or otherwise calls MGTOW degeneracy?? What has been done to eliminate the possibility a man deciding to forgo marriage and relationships? Your freedom of choice and free association is more at risk from the social programs of the left.

“The conservatives will not even listen to you, because they are cucks to their women, and are willing to destroy other men for them, including themselves”

K. I’ll just be over here GMOW.

“The left tries to give money to women taken by all men in general to keep society going, the right simple shames and destroys mgtow from the root, by creating bachelor laws and economic and social pressure on single men, and still giving money to women.”

The left “tries”to give money…?? The DO give money to women by voting to take your money and using guns, police and prison to take it from you. To use your word: conservatives using “shame” by comparison sounds minimal. If you are weak enough to be shamed into compliance you probably deserve it.

Government can’t save you and you shouldn’t expect it to. Why feed into this system that doesn’t make sense for some modern men? Learn something, make something of yourself, be undeniable. GYOW instead.

AncapGhxst · 2018-06-03T16:54:00+00:00

Yeah ancap is the only way to true freedom.

xonoma3 · 2018-06-03T18:44:32+00:00

What do you mean conservatives are trying to redefine marriage? Like what rock have you been living under honest question? Like the liberal news media and liberal websites like BuzzFeed are the ones posting articles talking about how cuckoldry and how letting your wife cheat on you and being okay with it is female empowerment. So remind me again which political party is trying to redefine marriage white even the non conservatives here have to see how stupid that statement is. Even if you're against marriage even if you hate all women even if you have nothing to do with any women that statement is just pure stupidity I don't even like what is happening right now

Title	MGTOW is overrun
Author	dialecticwizard
Upvotes	172
Comments	104
Date	June 3, 2018 10:29 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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