So I got a prostitute

mgtow_taway · 2017-03-15T11:46:42+00:00

Lol you guys are ruthless. Don't pretend like you were born red. The dude is reading/posting on r/mgtow. He's clearly trying to figure this shit out.

OP, sorry to hear about your had experience. You're not alone. Many others also have trouble with prostitutes and one night stage, myself included. That's perfectly normal. If you keep trying (not saying that you should) eventually you'll find someone that you can click with that will give you the girl friend experience. If you're interested the best thing to do is to go overseas otherwise it'll cost you way too much. Though my recommendation would be to take a break from women and focus on improving yourself because you're young and your gains will compound for years to come. As for the ideology you must understand that men and women are different creatures. Do not project male values like honor and loyalty onto them or you will be disappointed. Real life is not a movie. The good guy doesn't get the girl. Neither does the bad guy, but he might get to smash her for a bit.

Furthermore once you understand the nature of women you'll have a new problem. You will realize that you are no longer capable of love the same way you once were. The problem is since you've already had a hit of that love heroin you'll forever be craving that high. That shit is strong and for most men never fully goes away because any men that were unaffected didn't reproduce. The best thing you can do IMO is to focus on your reasoning ability pre and post fap and then to make some rules for yourself post fap because it's the only time that you can think clearly.

topshelg · 2017-03-15T09:23:52+00:00

dude your girl was smashing other dudes and you still fucked her raw, damnnnnn you're some fucked up brotha. My only advice would be to grow a fucking pair and wake up. Cant you see that no woman will ever make you happy. They will just fucking toy with your head and break you down mentally and emotionally. read the posts on here and see for yourself. I was like you at one point, but then i started to give 0 fucks and live a much happier life now. Sex isnt everything bro trust me

freethinker1976 · 2017-03-15T09:13:10+00:00

It's obvious you are still majorly blue pill. You make this girl your everything and without her you are nothing but a pathetic loser.

Be fucking glad you got out of it when you did. Christ the harlot was getting ass fucked by Chad while you were dreaming of starting a family with her.

armaadi · 2017-03-15T10:01:40+00:00

You were with her for what? 5 years? That's a long time. I've heard it roughly takes half of the length of the relationship to heal 100%. It'll take time, so don't let this situation with the hooker get your down. Besides, there was no bond, she approached you like a job, and fucking cigarettes, man. That would be a boner killer for me, too.

You are gonna go through the stages of grief. You'll want to call your ex to rekindle what you had. Don't. It's what you had. Not what you have. She's the past. Go work out, and find a team of guys to do something, like softball, volleyball or whatever. Work on you.

One day, maybe in a few months, maybe in a few years, you'll be doing something, and you'll realize you forgot your ex's name. Or you'll realize you hadn't thought about her in a few months. Maybe her birthday or your anniversary slipped by, completely unnoticed till now. That's when you are good to go.

The best way to say fuck you to that girl, is to live for yourself, like it didn't even matter that she left. You've got time, she doesn't. She can be Miss Black whatever, but she won't be Miss Black whatever forever. Furthermore, there'll be a new batch of Miss Black whatever that'll suck your cock, even in your thirties.

Good luck on your healing, bro.

Phixer7 · 2017-03-15T09:36:49+00:00

Wtf dude , getting one that looks like your ex ,you are a fucken sicko, it should be a fantasy go Asian ,Latina or black something different something exciting, if you still what to be with your ex whore then go be that cuckold, or move the fuck on.

rtmlex · 2017-03-15T13:17:58+00:00

Bro, I often miss one of my exes, have a wank, and guess what, att my feelings go downthe drain.

johnnyblorf · 2017-03-15T11:46:04+00:00

Get one that costs $300 / hr minimum and has her own webpage, and you won't have a bad time.

newbmgtow · 2017-03-15T14:54:56+00:00

All good points here. You are still large in the blue pill world. The good part is to recognize it when it emerges and to turn it red.

I've been where you are and it took me 20+ years to realize the reality of the truth. She isn't the problem. The hooker isn't the problem. Your attachment to a whore is the problem. And she is a whore, you do realize that, right?

You need to read more MGTOW stuff - I'm talking about the classics. Schopenhauer, Marcus Aurelius, The Manipulated Man.. you need to read the definition of Briffault's Law and damn near memorize it.

Here is Briffaults Law in plain english:

Whatever you did for her in the past doesn't matter

If a woman can't use a man for some selfish purpose, she won't have a relationship with that man

If you help her or provide benefit to her hoping she will stick around - her loyalty contract ends as soon as the help / benefits you provided are over

The hope of you earning money in the future and providing stability is not taken into account for the present circumstances

The longer it will take until you can provide her with safety, security, money... benefits; the less loyal she will be now... that loyalty increases and decreases depending on when she thinks she'll receive the benefit.

In other words, a woman will not be committed unless you are giving her things and any promises of future "prizes" will determine her loyalty only by how soon she can get it.

You are only good for her as long as you are providing things for her.

Chrollo-Lucilfer · 2017-03-15T09:57:26+00:00

Are you retard. Trust me dude nothing in this world is forever. Just change your attitude and live your life for yourself. Don't get caught in to the web of lies and hurt yourself. No one will never ever hurt you unless you let them. Be clam and sort your shit.

Rhodesius · 2017-03-15T11:17:18+00:00

Eh, that's alright man. She didn't sound too pleasant anyway. I think some guys need more passion involved so perhaps hookers are not for you. Maybe you could try again after not wanking for a week.

Life isn't meant to be easy. Those yacht people make up a very small amount of the human race. There's still plenty to be happy for, even if it's simple shit.

sadbasturd99 · 2017-03-15T15:21:03+00:00

I'm not suicidal and don't want to shoot up a post office.

Don't insult me. That is the kind of shaming tactics a woman would use on you. I wouldn't do that to you. Realize you are in a place now with people who aren't going to try to shame or belittle you.

I had a similar experience, I wasn't going to be able to fuck her. I told her. She licked my nipples and rubbed me a bit and I got it up. Who knows how, I was a young man then. I got the condom on fucked her for a minute, lost interest and erection and so she was leaving. She asked me out, it was awkward. How do you tell a person you don't want to hang out with them because they are a prostitute ? She probably wanted to hang out, have some drinks and make me more comfortable as a customer, or maybe she just wanted a friend I don't know.

The experience was no fun for me at all. I only like having sex because I care about someone and I feel like they care about me. Just sticking a pussy in front of me is dehumanizing and depressing. I would rather have no pussy than just pussy.

I don't believe in god and I do not have good advice on how to deal with it other than ACT therapy. So far it is the most compassionate most humane most sane therapy I have come across. Check it out if you have some time.

LetsGoAllTheWhey · 2017-03-15T17:38:29+00:00

I feel your pain, bro. It slowly gets better over time. For the most part I'm over my last one (ended about 2 years ago). But I miss having someone else in my life. Sometimes when life throws a lot of shit at me, like you, I just want it all to be over with. Not suicidal, just tired of dealing with the shit and want it to pass. Then a few days later, the mood passes, and I continue to plod along. Lifting helps, but it's not the complete answer. Paying down debt also helps and feels like you're accomplishing something.

I wish I could offer you more. Just know that this sub, MGTOW, is always here for you.

jKoperH · 2017-03-15T18:23:08+00:00

Dude you are a mess and you need serious help.

LibraryGuyMGTOW · 2017-03-15T12:25:33+00:00

The only way you will be free is to swallow that red pill fully because it's stuck in your throat at the moment.
Stop seeking validation from females, work on it constantly. Stop looking at women when you are out and when you do interact with them always look them directly in the eye, looking away is a red flag to them to fuck with you.
You need to get over your oneitis and realize the fact that she knew your body and mind so well that she could get you hard by looking at you was because she had worked out how to control and manipulate you and she was embedded deep. The power trip she must have had fucking around with you.
Sounds to me like you may have either had some kind of trauma with a female when you were a kid or the complete opposite and an overly loving mother because you have weak boundaries with females.
Sort out your validation issues and then splurge on a high class escort rather than a random house chick without condoms, you will have a much better experience.

soothslayer2k · 2017-03-15T12:59:55+00:00

Sorry to hear that mate but this experience is a good lesson for you about female nature. She's never yours, it's just your turn. It's upsetting that society lies to men about the one and romantic love but you will grow stronger from this experience.

Over time you will realize that all the effort you put in with women is totally unworth the benefit. And now you can focus on yourself and what you want to do with your life. All your time and energy is freed up and inner peace will eventually come. Your time is finite on this planet and I'm sure you want more out of life then just relationships with women. They are a crutch and make you dependent on their fickle love.

You are a man and your strength comes from within. Pursue your passions and have an enjoyable life.

geocitiesuser · 2017-03-15T13:50:51+00:00

I'm a lot like you OP, I don't really get into the one night stand thing. There are aspects of sex that a lot of guys here over look, deny, or frown upon, but there's no shame in the way you're feeling about, and don't take offense to the savage comments calling you blue pill etc, they are projecting their insecurity because they are scared your experience isn't "man" enough for them.

You might want to try a hooker again when you're less emotional about it. Or you might not. Either way doesn't matter. People like you and I benefit by having a "regular" and not just random hookers. Whether it's a hooker or a fwb doesn't really matter.

Massgumption · 2017-03-15T14:24:18+00:00

Oxytocin addiction is all it is, same as heroin addiction really...gym and sports will fix you, as for the pain, accept it as simple biology going cold turkey and move on to do other things. Nothing gets your over that pain than filling your time with something else, your brain needs to learn to trigger different neurons... The worse thing is to stay at home and think about it, in fact thinking in general is a waste of time, action is more important, you're not going to be rich thinking yourself there...

MGTOW_experienced · 2017-03-15T14:51:35+00:00

There will be no collapse. Stop trading fantasies of some amazing woman for fantasies of revenge due to some fantasy collapse. At this time a dose of Stardusk's video, "Coming to Terms with Reality" is what you need to hear right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygCnkUYElI

ransay3277 · 2017-03-15T15:14:47+00:00

Where to start... A) stop worrying about your ex. I guarantee she doesn't think about you. B) Stop raw dogging women. STD's are nothing to sneeze at as well as little knightwhosaysneet's running around for you to foot the bill. And C) Don't worry about the hooker... As Charley Sheen once said "I don't pay hookers for sex: I pay them to leave.

The_Man11 · 2017-03-15T15:21:33+00:00

Sounds like you're suffering from oneitis. Buy a motorcycle.

Onkel_Adolf · 2017-03-15T16:31:37+00:00

Fuck this world. Fuck this country. Fuck the women. Fuck this shit.

Pree-cisely. Being alone at first may suck, but it becomes normal. I have had a lot of gf's, and was even married once. Now, I love being alone with my drums, guitars, and cats..I never feel lonely. Women are evil cowards, never forget that. They are cunning liars by genetic coding. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1018967-the-fundamental-defect-of-the-female-character-is-a-lack

SinTekniq · 2017-03-15T18:02:50+00:00

The fact is you still have feelings for your ex.
You got a escort that reminded you of your ex but she smelt like cigs and did things to you that you instantly didn't like.
You clouded yourself with judgment and that alone made you fail with her.
This girl you hired does this daily and she is 100% okay with being with anyone at anytime just like your ex did.
When you don't love someone or you see lust and love separate you won't have a problem getting with other women when you want.
You have a big heart and i'm not saying to let that go but you need to let the idea of your ex go so you can be happy, single, and free.
Also sometimes it takes a heart break to awaken you as it did for me, It also took 3 long term relationships for me to finally go MGTOW.
You will move on and you mite find another girl but you will still end up un happy with being with one women.
100% take some time to do you and get yourself happy and independent again and then just dabble in dates here and there that can lead to some fuck dates and keep it as simple as that.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-03-15T20:59:54+00:00

First time is always going to be awkward with a whore, especially if she is all business and not affectionate at all. And, not everyone has good chemistry, if you had 10 different whores that day you might have had a good experience with some, terrible with others. (coming from someone with lots of experience in this ). I realize money is a factor but if you can take a trip to a country with legal and moderately priced prostitution (have to research it online) its the best way to find out what i'm talking about for yourself.

jKoperH · 2017-03-15T21:02:16+00:00

wondering why can't a woman just be happy to be with me and only me. Wondering how I'm going to cope with this life after knowing the truth about how things are. I try to keep face with it all. Always be upbeat. Always moving forward. Always staying busy. Putting on this false bravado of loving life. When truly wishing it would hurry up and end. Hurry up and end the suffering that I feel deep in my heart.

That was one of the hardest things for me to deal with even years later. Not going to lie, some days it's sad to know this stuff.

The bliss you see guys with them have is pure ignorance. They are just counting down to the moment when they realize it too.

You will have good days and bad. Just make the good as good as you can and it will carry you though the bad.

Terribledragon4Hire · 2017-03-15T12:43:37+00:00

Shitty deal man. I am going to echo some of the redpill shit (fuck people if they disagree) but you need to take care of your shit: be the best you you can be. Take all the bullshit PUA and that shit out and the ideology is pretty good. You need to build your confidence up and realize you have worth.

cashmoney_x · 2017-03-15T13:07:15+00:00

Jesus Christ man. Read Sex at Dawn and start meditating and working out. You're a mess.

RuckFeddit247 · 2017-03-15T15:17:37+00:00

Wow lots of heartless assholes in this sub who I assume never were with a woman by the way they are posting.

OP, I've felt your pain and have your same sentiments towards society and the world. I'm a good person and didn't deserve half the shit that has happened to be in this life. Hence, why I don't believe in God and if there is one, he can beg for my forgiveness. I'm really tired of what the Jews have done to America and the world through feminism but in a good way, it showed us how women really are. As much as I blame the Jews for much of the ills of the world, and they deserve it, the reality still remains that women have been horrible for seemingly all of recent history and probably forever.

This is a very hard concept for most men, including myself, to live with. However, once you can accept the way things are, you can begin to change your life for the best and disregard all negative parts of this world and let them consume themselves.

Are there good women left in the world? Loyal ones? Honorable ones? And good looking? Probably not and if there are would you really want to let others know you had one?

If I found a really great woman, the least number of people would know she existed for many reasons. Temptation isn't good for most people regardless of gender. Finding a woman with strong morals is difficult but still not impossible. It's an exercise in futility though because there seem to be so few left. Thus, I would focus on yourself and if one comes along, snag her, and if she doesn't, you're better off alone.

I was in a relationship for 8 months that felt like 8 years. I put my heart and soul into the relationship but ended it after 8 months because the girl I was with was not giving back what I felt like I put in. Plus, I felt like I could do better and I did. She was about a 6 and I was getting attention from 8s and sometimes 9s. However, I didn't break up with her because of looks since while women like to proclaim they look for more internal qualities, it's men who more often do so. I broke up with her because she was a cunt, plain and simple. She was a narcissist like most women and I became fed up with the hoops I had to jump through in the beginning of the relationship to get sex. Also throughout the relationship, while I could pretty much get sex on command, she was horrible at it.

How hard is it to move your ass up and down? How hard is it to give a really good blowjob? Women refuse to learn the easiest physical tasks because the majority are lazy, worthless cunts and I fucking hate them. Yup, I'm a misogynist and wouldn't save a whore if her life depended on it. I'd laugh hysterical at her face and watch her die.

I've put up with so much bullshit from women in my life, besides my mom who can still be a bitch at times, that I don't want anything to do with women. I, along with you and many men still have that ideal in their head of the chick who cooks, fucks, and is loyal while you be a man and live your life and have a rock as a companion. I think most want that. Who wouldn't? Unfortunately women are shit and can't do that - a very simple task.

I could go on forever but my point is that I've felt the same shit in your heart and stomache that eventually makes you go numb for a while. The pain becomes too much and for me it turned into hate. I hold onto that hate automatically and without effort. I love hate. Hate is good. Indifference is giving in in my opinion. I'd rather hate and wait for my revenge then just let things go.

That's the way I am though and have been forever so I stopped trying to change myself. I hate women and I love it.

Good luck.

Raiden627 · 2017-03-15T16:15:02+00:00

It happens dude just stop fucking with women for a while. It's always scary the first time with someone new no matter how many times you've done it. Once you establish a routine with the same person it gets easier. Sounds like you're one of those guys that needs a emotional connection to have sex in which case you should stray away from that and get a FWB when you're ready.

yellow_black · 2017-03-15T16:19:43+00:00

I know how you feel, bro. My answer will not satisfy you while you're in this mood, but will hopefully help you in the long run. This, too, shall pass.

You have to know when to go to a ho. Can't do it when you're feeling down or thinking about every problem in the whole world.

You have feelings, too. Once you go MGTOW, it's actually better for you if you spend time alone or other MGTOW 90% of the time.

But when you're horny and relaxed and you ENJOY your ho and she's a nice one, too, then suddenly, you're forever free from being an emo slave. And that, is, worth a bag of gold (literally, considering 97% of alimony payments go to women).

It is stupendous how I treat women as just other human beings after having had sex or having jerked off. It is incredible how I see through their every deception and how they are so parasitic and useless to themselves and society without a man to lean on. I DEMAND women to be equal when I'm not horny. When I'm horny, all those pop songs they continually blare out make me emo. It's a fucking scam; the world runs on men's hormonal need to prove themselves to women, and prostitution frees men from the shackles of illusion.

theavariceofman · 2017-03-15T17:50:47+00:00

I feel this, hard. I used to struggle majorly with one night stands, and haven't tried prostitution. I still do have to be able to connect with the person on some level. They can't smoke either, groce. Hang in there man. I've become a hermit too in a lot of regards and I love it most of the time.

IslandicFreedom · 2017-03-15T20:51:54+00:00

What you're describing now is why I am done with hookers.

But let me be clear I've also had some amazing times, so let's start with that. This one time we were on holiday driving around this rental car in Eastern Europe. Well we ended up at a brothel. It was kind of exciting getting to pick which one we would go with. So I ended up with this young apathetic one. Only since I was also young back then and with a flat stomach, she actually enjoyed it. After I came she asked me if I wanted to go again. That was a good experience.

Another time, this one did cocaine in my bathroom without me knowing. She was hot and decent looking. It was one of those gorgeous apartments, again on holiday it had a sky light, and you could see the stars from the bedroom. Incredibly romantic atmosphere. She was taking forever in the bathroom. Then she emerges. So we started talking and cuddling. She tells me I have a confession, I did coke in your bathroom. So I said to her "Whatever blows your hair back". So she says, well now I'm in the mood. I was kind of awkwardly fucking her. So she says hold on. Try this and try that. Karma Sutra style, stuff I didn't even know existed back then. She tells me "I also want to get pleasure from this". We had great sex, and afterwards she says that was more than just sex.

I've also been in whirl pools with some, been in a room with it's own private swimming pool in a very upmarket place, where it's just you, a 10/10 looking woman, swimming pool and beer on tap.

I think you get the point.

But then there have been really fucking bad experiences. I mean REALLY BAD. In between that is a lot of mediocre ones. But the last 2 I had one was the worst experience of my life, and the last one was just bad.

It's just too much of a lottery. And when it's bad you know it as the sex starts, or as she removes her clothes. And that's it you've paid and so I always think might as well get my moneys worth.

I could never really understand this whole love is not sex thing you get taught as a teenager. Back then and throughout my 20's and pretty much up until 40, I could happily enjoy sex without love, there was some thrill in it.

But over time you get educated, I mean you have enough sex to know when she likes it when she doesn't. You cannot be fooled by fake orgasms. You know the female anatomy well enough to know if her nipples are hard, if her pussy is really wet, if it's swelling, if her neckline is red, all these things, and what are her eyes saying. You get experience in making women orgasm, and once you can do that, even with hookers, and not from penetration sex. You know after you've really discovered how the female anatomy is kind of broken since 90% of women will never cum from penetration sex. After all this stuff it's incredibly difficult to have to fuck a women you know isn't into it, to get turned on by someone who doesn't want to be fucking you right now, and only tolerating it for the money.

Yeah and that fucking smoke smell. OMFG that kills it for me immediately.

2017-03-15T20:55:04+00:00

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What is this?

enlightenedmgtow · 2017-03-15T22:06:00+00:00

I had a good prostitute my first time. I've also had my fair share of bad ones.

NotJerrySeinfeld2 · 2017-03-15T22:19:59+00:00

Really captivating read. You like writing?

cyborg_type_darkness · 2017-03-15T22:45:45+00:00

At the moment she didn't have any condom with her and she smelled of cigarettes you shouldn't even have continued. You need balls to reject something you don't want. Above that, she left with your earned money while giving nothing in return. I hope you learned from this man.

When that's said your life isn't defined by the relationships you have with other people. This is your life and you are responsible for it. If you want happiness only you can do it for you.

What the fuck did I do to deserve this?

Bad things happen to good people. You should watch Eric Thomas.

To work as a fucking wage slave all the while having to see these fuckers enjoying their yachts and high roller parties that they were born into. Fuck this world. Fuck this country. Fuck the women. Fuck this shit. Can't wait till it comes crashing down like Venezuela. I'm will be adapted to being a hermit while others go insane. Let em burn boys.

I know your feelings man :( ur not the only one.

Remember if you fap you release your poison out of your body. Keep it moderate.

Success is the sweetest revenge. If you become successful and happy she will cry that she left you in the first place. She will most likely look like a unfuckable landwhale by then. Don't under any circumstance go back to her. These hoes ain't loyal m8.

mgtau · 2017-03-16T00:28:49+00:00

Dude, you're going to be OK. The nofap stuff doesn't work for everyone. Recognize your hormones for what they are an notice how clearly you think after an orgasm. A regular schedule will keep your mind in the game and at top performance.

As for money, we're all in the same rat race. The key is making yourself into a product that companies are willing to pay top dollar for. If you dropped out of school or got an underwater basket weaving degree in college, you're going to have a harder time, but nothing is impossible. It sucks going to school while working, but if it gets you a better job with shorter hours and a higher salary, it's worth it in the end. You don't have to shoulder all the cost either. Fastweb(.com) is a great place to start looking for scholarships and millions go unclaimed every year because people aren't willing to put forth the effort to do the essays and whatnot required. If you can get into a STEM field, by all means do that - it's a shortcut to making yourself a rare commodity. But if you don't have the head for it (like me), there are lots of other practical skills that can pay well. There's a shortage in the trades right now - I've met contractors who would kill for a skilled electrician. Trade school isn't glamorous, but if you pick the right field, you can write your own meal ticket (with a fraction of the debt you incur in college).

Of course, when making more money, you've got to be smart with your money. Clark Howard is a great guy to listen to and his site is a good place to start. A simple budget and investment plan will put you light years ahead of the average American. The rest just takes a little discipline (which is a lot easier when you're not thinking with the little head, going back to my first point).

As for women... forget 'em. What right do they have to the things YOU'VE earned? You work hard enough for yourself... why should you work hard for some woman who's going to cheat on you at the first opportunity. If you want a legacy, make it a goal to make enough money that you can retire early, buy an egg, hire a surrogate for in-vitro fertilization (and no parental rights), and spend all your time teaching your child all the things you wish you had been taught... WITHOUT some woman in the picture.

Good luck, brother.

templeprocess · 2017-03-15T15:37:59+00:00

That pussy can be grand, can't it!!!! You're just in love with the pussy...and the ideal form of the completely submissive romantic soulmate love that doesn't really exist.

But mostly, you love and miss that good pussy that you knew so well.

You'll get over it.

MemeSoSick · 2017-03-15T17:08:34+00:00

It's just phase one of fully going your own way man. You're in a hard place right now but trust me it's allot better than what would have happened if you stayed in that relationship until it sunk with her on the life raft with all your shit and you going down with the ship. Just keep consuming the red pills, read more and watch more. Stick with it and keep your head in the game, you'll come out on top eventually. Honestly I wish you the best. Cheers mate.

Title	So I got a prostitute
Author	knightwhosaysneet
Upvotes	35
Comments	54
Date	March 15, 2017 8:59 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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