We live in a world that is quickly dying from the overpopulation of humans. What do you think will happen to your kids when rivers dry up and important species like bees die out? Yet people breed every day in order to 'preserve their family name' or to live through them.
It isn't cherrypicking, the OP of this chain is complaining about women who don't want kids. And you know what? Not wanting kids is one of the most selfless things we can do for the world right now.
What I was pointing out was the complete and utter idiocy to imply that not wanting kids was some insanely selfish act (despite how often people have kids for incredibly selfish reasons). Nobody's playing the victim. And to lump it in with the rest of those is stupid. Yet you don't want it pointed out.
Women start out with everything, that's their downfall. They get to 15 grow a pair of tits and suddenly everything is handed to them.
With a lot of them, it begins much MUCH earlier -- Daddy's "Little Princess" often gets whatever it is that she wants...
Hell these days, the "spoiling" often begins even before the child is born -- there's not only a whole nursery/bedroom but a "playroom" filled with virtually every toy and stuff doll imaginable and etc. -- all prepped and ready months in advance.
And that's not to mention the insane levels that some "daddies" go to in order to make the childhood of their precious little "special snowflake" daughter just perfect -- the merest whim becomes a multi-thousand dollar home remodel project. I remember a wile back seeing some thread over under /r/DIY about some guy who's daughter had rather casually mentioned that she thought it would be "neat" to have like a "tree-house" in her bedroom, a place where she could read her books, play, etc. The dad went WAAAAY overboard; built some steel-reinforced and plasti-coated-concrete super life-like "tree" (we're talking 2 to 3 foot in diameter "100 year old oak tree" sized trunk) with roots extending across half the floor and branches with leaves and lights and shit going across the ceiling, etc, etc.
What she got instead was something that a movie-set crew would have a hard time replicating. EDIT: found the thread & imgur gallery. EDIT2 Link at left fixed.
And the thing is -- if daddy was some bazillionaire (aka Paris Hilton or something) then it might be understandable, I mean the kid would grow up spoiled and the heir to a massive trust fund fortune anyway, right? But in this case the guy's actually a lower-middle class guy and this was a MAJOR expense for the household & family (just for the materials, etc -- not counting all of insane number of extra hours he put into it himself).
So he's succeeded in become "alpha" in the eyes and life of a child-female... but he's unwittingly fucked her up for life*; because NOW her level of expectation is... well it's going to be so insanely high that no one and nothing else are likely to ever match up with this.
-- Dumb dumb dumb.
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What COULD have been a nice and simple (and cheap) little exercise for him to teach his daughter how to "craft" something she wants herself -- how to DO the work to create her own "fun" -- with her actively participating in if not doing the lion's share of the work (again some cardboard or paper-mache thing -- something at or maybe slightly above her present-age skill-level in terms of crafts would have been MORE than what she'd imagined/wanted).
But nope he had to go all "X-Treme Home Makeover TV Show" style -- and never mind that he actually probably torpedoed his home's resale value -- and that his precious little princess will soon enough grow SICK of having a fucking massive concrete "tree" in her room (heck she literally will probably no longer "fit" in it for more than a year or two, she'll grow too big to use it).
* I've seen what happens to little girls who have fathers that do these kinds of things for their "special little princess" -- even things that are much LESS "grandiose" than this -- and invariably they end up as unhappy, selfish, spoiled bitches with no direction in life, frequently they end up basically playing "hooker/mistress" to some rich-guy sugar daddy during their 20's, have half a dozen abortions, contract STD's and get addicted to drink & drugs, and then once their "used up" they return home to be a fat-depressed parasite living with & off of their REAL "daddy" again as they hit their mid-to-late 30's or early 40's (when they can no longer GET a "sugar daddy" -- because what rich guy wants a used-up drug addicted, fat, wrinkled & slutty worn out whore... when you can find some young eager "freaky-sexy" college girl in a snap... aka the next "little princess" that some other "daddy" has created).
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I mean, we have enough in the world.
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We live in a world that is quickly dying from the overpopulation of humans. What do you think will happen to your kids when rivers dry up and important species like bees die out? Yet people breed every day in order to 'preserve their family name' or to live through them.
It isn't cherrypicking, the OP of this chain is complaining about women who don't want kids. And you know what? Not wanting kids is one of the most selfless things we can do for the world right now.
What I was pointing out was the complete and utter idiocy to imply that not wanting kids was some insanely selfish act (despite how often people have kids for incredibly selfish reasons). Nobody's playing the victim. And to lump it in with the rest of those is stupid. Yet you don't want it pointed out.
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With a lot of them, it begins much MUCH earlier -- Daddy's "Little Princess" often gets whatever it is that she wants...
Hell these days, the "spoiling" often begins even before the child is born -- there's not only a whole nursery/bedroom but a "playroom" filled with virtually every toy and stuff doll imaginable and etc. -- all prepped and ready months in advance.
And that's not to mention the insane levels that some "daddies" go to in order to make the childhood of their precious little "special snowflake" daughter just perfect -- the merest whim becomes a multi-thousand dollar home remodel project. I remember a wile back seeing some thread over under /r/DIY about some guy who's daughter had rather casually mentioned that she thought it would be "neat" to have like a "tree-house" in her bedroom, a place where she could read her books, play, etc. The dad went WAAAAY overboard; built some steel-reinforced and plasti-coated-concrete super life-like "tree" (we're talking 2 to 3 foot in diameter "100 year old oak tree" sized trunk) with roots extending across half the floor and branches with leaves and lights and shit going across the ceiling, etc, etc.
The thing is, I'd be willing to bet what the daughter ACTUALLY had in mind was probably more like some plastic "PlaySkool" style thing or possibly even just some cardboard & colored construction paper & marker thing (take the linked thing and scale it up with bigger cardboard) that she would have a hand in creating, and would have been JUST as pleased with (possibly MORE).
What she got instead was something that a movie-set crew would have a hard time replicating. EDIT: found the thread & imgur gallery. EDIT2 Link at left fixed.
And the thing is -- if daddy was some bazillionaire (aka Paris Hilton or something) then it might be understandable, I mean the kid would grow up spoiled and the heir to a massive trust fund fortune anyway, right? But in this case the guy's actually a lower-middle class guy and this was a MAJOR expense for the household & family (just for the materials, etc -- not counting all of insane number of extra hours he put into it himself).
So he's succeeded in become "alpha" in the eyes and life of a child-female... but he's unwittingly fucked her up for life*; because NOW her level of expectation is... well it's going to be so insanely high that no one and nothing else are likely to ever match up with this.
-- Dumb dumb dumb.
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What COULD have been a nice and simple (and cheap) little exercise for him to teach his daughter how to "craft" something she wants herself -- how to DO the work to create her own "fun" -- with her actively participating in if not doing the lion's share of the work (again some cardboard or paper-mache thing -- something at or maybe slightly above her present-age skill-level in terms of crafts would have been MORE than what she'd imagined/wanted).
But nope he had to go all "X-Treme Home Makeover TV Show" style -- and never mind that he actually probably torpedoed his home's resale value -- and that his precious little princess will soon enough grow SICK of having a fucking massive concrete "tree" in her room (heck she literally will probably no longer "fit" in it for more than a year or two, she'll grow too big to use it).
* I've seen what happens to little girls who have fathers that do these kinds of things for their "special little princess" -- even things that are much LESS "grandiose" than this -- and invariably they end up as unhappy, selfish, spoiled bitches with no direction in life, frequently they end up basically playing "hooker/mistress" to some rich-guy sugar daddy during their 20's, have half a dozen abortions, contract STD's and get addicted to drink & drugs, and then once their "used up" they return home to be a fat-depressed parasite living with & off of their REAL "daddy" again as they hit their mid-to-late 30's or early 40's (when they can no longer GET a "sugar daddy" -- because what rich guy wants a used-up drug addicted, fat, wrinkled & slutty worn out whore... when you can find some young eager "freaky-sexy" college girl in a snap... aka the next "little princess" that some other "daddy" has created).
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