Why is TRP so obsessed with lifting?

AugmentedFury · 2015-09-21T15:17:34+00:00

It's sad that the majority of users on there only lift to get women. Lifting for your health should be the main reason.

Wargame4life · 2015-09-21T16:31:41+00:00

because lifting is like magic, it makes you more attractive, makes you feel better and actually changes your mind/outlook.

it really is a sort of miracle cure

Cashews4U · 2015-09-21T14:59:18+00:00

I think its just a blanket term for exercise. Be a physically active person. Be in shape. A marathon runner and bodybuilder are both "fit." Oh, and its safer to assume that bigger/defined muscles are attractive to women than not.

megachrispercent · 2015-09-21T15:01:44+00:00

TRP Reddit is almost more Blue-Pill than MRAs are. A lot of them on there are simply out there to "get laid" and will make fun of you or try to compete with you if you state that you're not getting any, or if you say you don't care to.

moosevice_dot_com · 2015-09-21T15:05:44+00:00

Body fat % is where it's at. Keep that one low and you're good to go.

rothbarbarian · 2015-09-21T16:17:43+00:00

Lifting weights increases your testosterone and dropping testosterone levels are a societal problem at this point.

Testosterone Levels in Men Decline Over Past Two Decades, Study Shows

The Benefits of Optimal Testosterone

Improved cognition, physique and assertiveness are all positive benefits regardless of whether you intend to pick up chicks or not.

spooky-clinic · 2015-09-21T15:34:17+00:00

The reasoning is oftentimes stupid, yes, but this not change the fact that the three powerlifting exercises (deadlift, bench press and squat) are the best exercises you can do for yourself.

Doesn't matter if you are working as a construction worker or in some office. Your back will get fucked from both jobs over and the BEST (not the only one) way to avoid back-pain is actually doing squats and deadlifts. Endurance training beyond 15 or 20 minutes per day has actually no health benefits aside from getting a better endurance. You can also quite fast build up a good endurance via cardio but you can also very easily loose it. Strength on the other hand, builds up slower, but the benefits stay longer with you. People that were fooling around with heavy stuff in their early years, still benefit from it, YEARS after they have stopped with the training.

Ignoring the obvious stuff, like looking better naked, having muscles has a lot of other nice benefits. For example, you are gaining way slower fat. The Rock eats every morning a dozen pancakes: https://qmunicate.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/muscle-meal.jpg

Why isn't this guy a fat fuck? Because his left arm alone needs probably more calories than my whole body. What does this mean for you? You can actually enjoy more and 'unhealthier' stuff, because your body actually DO NEED the calories.

Oh, and shit is also great for your heart muscle: http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20070716/weight-training-for-heart-disease

If anything, our media is way too obsessed with the whole cardio sports. It's highly overrated.

The next time after you have finished shitting, cleaned your ass and brought your pants back into position, remember the following: You just did a squat. Do you want to be able shit and clean your ass by yourself in old age? Squat.

2015-09-21T16:06:34+00:00

You forgot "frame".

TopTRP · 2015-09-21T15:34:20+00:00

You're cherry picking pieces of posts you've read to fit an agenda.

Having said that, you're correct on a lot of points.

Lot's of TRP users are only there because they think it will help them slam vag. You can't really stop that since RP behaviors make yourself more attractive to women. Naturally the sub is going to attract people who have that goal but are not really interested in it beyond that.

The reason lifting, and a lot of the other RP principles are fed to the audience as a 'one size fits all' silver bullet is to combat the blue pill hamster.

If you go around telling readers that, well for 90% of you, lifting is the right choice...everyone who doesn't really want to lift will hamster their way into convincing themself they're in the 10%.

The same thing with AWALT. If you go around telling people 99% of women are not LTR worthy, a lot of RP readers will hamster that into thinking any woman they catch feels for is that 1% unicorn.

So while true, a lot of RP users are only following the principles because they want to get laid, it doesn't mean that's why TRP exists to

it's all to impress sub-humans known as women

2015-09-21T16:04:29+00:00

It's clear that it's not the reasons they give like discipline that makes them lift, it's all to impress sub-humans known as women.

That's the PRIMARY (or at least most obvious, external) purpose.

The SECONDARY (or co-equal) purpose is that the "bodybuilder physique" is just about the only "image/concept of masculinity" that most young men (I would say especially of the "Millennial" generation) are aware of, or indeed that is left to them as an option for expressing "masculinity" and "manhood" in our modern media-laden, media-image-driven society.

And moreover, it is an "image/concept" of masculinity that is incessantly indoctrinated into kids (and the most rudimentary/subconscious levels) these days from their earliest years -- seriously just look at this image as an example -- the two Star Wars toys on the left are the original late 1970's/early 1980's era Luke & Han, and are fairly accurate representations (at least in terms of body shape/musculature) of the characters as portrayed in the films; the two on the right are the late 1990's & current versions of the toys. (Here's an article on the subject -- and note that it is from a "bodybuilder" site.).

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End result of all of that is that it is a sort of psychological "compensation". Boys and young men have become so effectively powerless, and indeed they are so bereft of any (what I would call) "healthy" image of masculinity, any "normal" adult males; much less any of what could be called "rites of passage"* -- that they seek out the only form of FEELING "powerful" that is left to them: the superficial appearance (a strutting display) of a "hyper-masculinity" that they have learned from media (and most especially from "superhero" comics, movies, etc).

So they're (arguably neurotically) obsessed with it (much as they are also obsessed with what is essentially a "notch count" in terms of sexual conquest) as a way to try to achieve a masculine "identity" to internally FEEL as if they are "men" -- and to gain some external "validation" (somehow, in some form, however superficial) that they have achieved "adult" status -- and yes, garnering attention from females (and/or other males) is part of that.

* This -- rites of passage into adulthood -- is another whole, and much deeper, broader subject.

Upvote_To_The_Left · 2015-09-21T16:06:53+00:00

Strenuous physical activity ever day is absolutely worth it.

Especially if you have literally nothing else going on in your life except for work and reddit.

Ultramegasaurus · 2015-09-21T15:21:36+00:00

Yes, it's pretty funny how lifting is the only sport/excersize there is in their eyes.

You do martial arts? You play soccer? WHATEVA GO LIFT BRAH WHAT U DONT LIFT U LAZY SLOB LLMAO

pirate6728 · 2015-09-21T15:29:29+00:00

The funny thing is, the lifting isn't even for practical reasons. It's just to build big, bulky muscles.

Now, as it happens I used to lift much more than I do now-- but it was practical, not for show. I loaded my van-- by hand-- at a warehouse every morning with office supplies. A case of 8.5x11 standard copy paper weighs 50 lbs, a case of 8.5x13 paper is about 60 lbs. It's not hard to have 60 cases of paper on a given day's run--- and each of these have to be hand-loaded and hand-unloaded-- and you will finger-print each box several times throughout the process. Then you have to drag a hand-truck with up to 3 cartons at a time up a flight of stairs---- several times throughout the day. Lawyers just love second-floor offices in non-elevator buildings.

I never did build up impressive-looking muscles--- but I sure did lose weight doing that. Strangely, I never could get a woman to look at me--- you don't suppose my old beat-up looking Sprinter could have had something to do with that, eh?

CuntyMcFagNuts69 · 2015-09-21T15:49:03+00:00

For me I do it because I physically feel better. I go at 4:30 am before work and 5:30 after work. I just puts me in a better mindset. Fuck what woman think about my appearance. The gym is just a place where I can forget about everything

DarkestJ · 2015-09-22T02:17:01+00:00

TRP'ers are closet betas trying to cover up insecurity by lifting and beating their chests with false bravado.

Lifting is amazing, but it's not to be done to impress anybody unless you're really that much of a sniveling, insecure dweeb. It's to be done to push yourself and surpass your limits, your overall health, and because it's just an all around fun activity. Your body is a temple- be its God.

mydark · 2015-09-21T15:35:23+00:00

Nothing wrong with lifting although it does seem to be highly pushed by trp. Funny thing to me is you'll see some of these guys who keep pushing weight lifting aren't very big. Hell alot of times they're pretty skinny looking.

falafin · 2015-09-21T15:41:07+00:00

Why Training Is Important

Physical training is an integral part of the Red Pill ideology and there are two primary reasons for this. First, it instills discipline in you as a man. By consistently hitting the gyms a minimum of three times per week and keeping a training log, you create accountability in your life and develop a diligence that bleeds over into other aspects of your life. Weight training strengthens your mind simultaneously. A training log is essential to genuine long-term growth. Whether you choose to use an old-fashioned notebook and pen or a smartphone app is up to you. Either way, train with a purpose, record every set and rep, and hold yourself accountable.

The second reason why preach the iron gospel is that regardless of what women hamster, visible muscle mass has powerful, animalistic effect on women. They claim it doesn’t matter, but present them with broad shoulders and muscular arms and they can’t keep their hands off you. It’s takes nothing more than a gym membership and your time, yet presents you with an excellent and cost-effective method of increasing your SMV.

There will inevitably be some faggot that chimes in, "What about calisthenics? I much prefer that to lifting weights." I don't give a shit what you prefer, and fuck you for being a delicate little snowflake who just has to chime in to feel good about yourself. This guide is about lifting weights. If you prefer to do gymnastic routines on bars in a park, more power to you; no one claims it doesn't work and that gymnasts aren't jacked as fuck. However, the principles of volume and overload discussed immediately hereafter still apply.

From /r/TheRedPill/comments/3lq2fa/the_red_pillers_guide_to_weight_training/

Griever114 · 2015-09-21T16:38:44+00:00

The core of MRP and RP is more about fixing your shit so you are happy. The core is getting learning that you cant be a fatass neckbeard, with terrible hygiene, social behavior, etc and then have any excuse to wonder why women wont bang you, why your health is fucking terrible and why you are a sack of shit.

Its meant to get your fucking like together. If you want a woman, they force you to analyze your behavior around women and how you interact/appear. Do you think a 10/10 celebrity will jump your bones b/c you held the door open?

t-mille · 2015-09-21T18:22:35+00:00

Building muscle means building physical strength. Having physical power means that people will think twice before crossing you the wrong way. It gives you the upper hand when shit hits the fan, and if you care about it, women basically throw their pussies at you if you're in peak physical shape.

bsutansalt · 2015-09-21T20:29:37+00:00

It's good for you in multiple ways:

It's one of the simplest ways of improving your SMV given the obesity epidemic
It helps alleviate frustration and stress

There are other benefits obviously, but those are two biggies IMO.

Lesninore · 2015-09-21T22:10:37+00:00

I fully endrose the TRP on lifting, the reptile brain associates strength with capability, "I can do this" will translate into other avenues than just women. Plus the health benefits will be converted into patience because stiffness and uneasiness in your body is very annoying when you're trying to concentrate on something.

The discipline factor is also huge, if you can stick with a routine with patience and consistency, you can pretty much master anything, provided you have the interest, once you nail the patience down, and have got the discipline...the entire world opens up, anything is possible.

Do agree that other things can be just as important but TRP is gynocentric, and women will acknowledge the arms before anything else.

thefinn12345 · 2015-09-22T01:38:10+00:00

because TRP is full of PUA's.

cynicalsimon · 2015-09-23T02:13:12+00:00

This whole lifting obsession and claiming that it makes you gain everything is bullshit. Its just a trend and it will most certainly die down.

Lytalm · 2015-09-23T12:01:37+00:00

My whole "full package deal" of exercise include individual work out, martial art, cardio and team sport. That's my way to stay healthy physically and mentally.

DutchingtonNJ · 2015-09-21T15:09:20+00:00

because 66% of this country is overweight and 33% is obese. Those numbers are rising fast, too

VladMartel · 2015-09-23T00:28:57+00:00

'Cause you should be able to save your own life.

Lil_Byte · 2015-09-24T19:24:54+00:00

I found working out in general, aside from female attraction, also earns you the respect of other men. The change in attitude my male friends had toward me was immediately obvious when I lost 50lbs. Its strange, but they began taking me more seriously. I wasn't the funny fat fuck anymore.

Of course, as eveyone else mentioned, there are lots of health benefits. In combination with the mega men multivitamin, working out has eliminated the symptoms of my semi annual colds.I still get sick, but I can only tell because my head feels a little numb. While everyone around me is trying to hose down in disinfectant.

redditor1256 · 2015-09-22T17:49:43+00:00

To be in the top 20% you have to be fit.

Mardoo · 2015-09-21T15:39:20+00:00

lifting for grills.. they all do it, and still have no success because they're all pretty much aspergers kids with autism. Some are legit, but I don't see the point of being a male slut, it's just gross.

They think getting laid and having alot of different sexual partners will raise their social value, but it actually makes them assholes with STD's and commitment issues.

A man has sex with 100 girls in 5 years or something, they he decides to go monogamous? C'mon, that's not gonna happen. Not because he couldn't get a girl to commit, but he can't commit anymore.

But hey, everyone can do whatever they want, right? If you like getting antibiotics pumped into you every couple of months, be my guest. It will influence your health and shorten your lifespan, no amount of lifting will give this back to you.

being MGTOW and exercising a bit can't be bad, but overdoing it like the /fit/izens is also bad for your body. We don't need to be bodybuilders, but it's nice to have a more or less healthy weight.

I'm totally overweight right now because I was sick for like 4 months with pneumonia and lost my job, after that I had no energy and wanted to sleep all day, so I ate and slept, played some games and that was it, gained like 20 pounds doing this over the next 5 months.

Then I had a one night stand with a tinderslut and that was it, I thought I had gotten aids or something, I was feeling sick again all over, having fear of going back to the hospital, so I went to see some doctors to make sure everything is fine.

Getting sick like this really fucks up your mind, stay healthy guys.

oldredder · 2015-09-23T01:53:49+00:00

The healthy male body is made to lift. If you don't your health degrades rapidly in comparison. Good diet, good sleep and good lifting along with critical thinking are all essential parts of being a top-level healthy male.

A man who lacks intellect, ability to deceive or avoid being deceived, who lacks strength and reflexes, is weak and weak men are not alphas.

You don't get a choice to be alpha but you do get a choice to squander good potential given to you by DNA.

I exercise my mind and body and I choose to diet carefully for a good balance of nutrition, not any fads. I do it for me and only me.

Title	Why is TRP so obsessed with lifting?
Author	Cheesypeesy
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Date	September 21, 2015 2:54 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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