Why it hurts.

IslandicFreedom · 2017-08-22T20:49:21+00:00

Have you considered a dog? It'll always act amazed, excited, and shake its ass when you get home.

You can train it to get you a beer.

DThrillard · 2017-08-22T21:29:10+00:00

You didn't fail, brah. In fact you sound like a roaring success, and the only way all these talents and struggles could be meaningless is if you assign no meaning to them. Be proud of who you are and what you've mastered.

Society has failed. Women have failed. MGTOW are anything but failures.

Of_Spite · 2017-08-22T20:56:03+00:00

You mastered your societal role. Women however gave that shit up a long time ago. Pains me too that the life I envisioned exists only in old movies.

Cabshear · 2017-08-22T22:04:16+00:00

"Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute, an hour, a day, or even a year. But, eventually, it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever."

Like was said brilliantly before. You can't fail at an opportunity never truly offered. You didnt fail. If women can't see the achievements you made aside from the dollar signs, fuck em. Let some chad deal with her when the beauty and the novelty fades away leaving only bitterness and resentment.

I enjoy the look on people's face now when they ask if I have a girlfriend or wife and I I say: "Nah not really, it's not nessessary." All the social programming in beta men that hear that is just bouncing around chaoticly. They get real quiet.

rtmlex · 2017-08-22T20:59:35+00:00

Get a dog. Stop dwelling on the illusion that was sold to you about women. Fuck some shit up. Helps a lot.

erkomap · 2017-08-22T23:12:33+00:00

Truth hurts brother. When i broke up with my gf 6 months ago, i felt like shit. I couldn't stop thinking about her, i would often find myself thinking about our moments together and how things could have gone different. But it's just a fantasy, a lie from our society that has been told for so many times, that it became "truth". Don't concern yourself with women. You are an amazing person, just learn to love yourself.

cyborg_type_darkness · 2017-08-22T23:22:34+00:00

I would kill to have the success most of you guys have, women would be the very last thing I would be worried about, most of yall have "fuck you" money while I'm 26 with absolutely no clue where my life is heading and broke as fuck with no degree and wouldn't mind if an asteroid collided with the planet lol. (just putting things into perspective)

That is what you call "failing", I'm currently failing at life right now and most likely suffering from undiagnosed depression.

You're good, keep doing you...when you don't find anybody to make you their slave that ain't something you've failed at, you're already up north.

0signal0 · 2017-08-22T21:15:06+00:00

All I actually wanted was to find a good and wholesome suitable companion who loved me for me. And that is something I failed at.

You didn't fail at it. It was never a given, which is even worse. In past times, someone like you would have easily found his other half, but nowadays? Very difficult.

CadeyrnDragheim · 2017-08-22T23:33:53+00:00

Yeah, that's the social programming speaking. Women don't love you for you, they love how you make them feel. It's not about your personality or your achievements. Even heard it from the horse's mouth. So unless you're a chad who can give her tingles or she gets wet when thinking about your money, yeah, not going to happen and that's not really love either.

Maybe the hardest thing to accept is that if there exists an unicorn, who could offer true love, most likely she's 1 in 1000 or 10.000 and already taken. And every other girl is awalt.

Anyway, your achievements matter as much as you make them matter. And if they don't, then it means it's time to start trying to achieve what you want, what you desire. Not what society wants you to desire. Also, what you already achieved is your own, be proud of it. I haven't really done much because of other problems and i would have loved to have done even half of what you did. Maybe it's a grass is greener thing on the other side thing.

liftweights · 2017-08-23T00:30:20+00:00

same here dude. we can't disable our biology. my anger is murderous at times. my ex left me for a fat neckbeard she works with. I can't even conceive it. practically all my posts are about it. I just seethe.

WhistlingAlong · 2017-08-22T22:37:51+00:00

Checks out as valid. Many men on here have achieved apex decoration through hard work, motivation and hobbies but nobody was there for us so I understand we are a bit upset because let's face it, we are the sole holders of the future and we would be the best mates in reproduction it's just the sub humans born with a mental disorders make us stay far far away.

Rage is good, it's a build up for inevitable acceptance.

KingBu · 2017-08-23T02:03:06+00:00

Sounds like you're just looking for something else to validate you... Why don't you just forget about being validated and live free?

You sound like you got a good deal, why don't you go travel and make use of the foreign languages you should be boasting about or live in a different country for a year or two? Forget your current career and chase after a new one?

I mean, the point of the red pill analogy was that you can't go back no matter how horrific the real world is... You made your choice, live with it.

Hernes777 · 2017-08-23T00:28:19+00:00

You've been doing it wrong all along. Happiness and validation is something you get from yourself, YOU are the sole source of ALL validation. It sounds like you accomplished all these things simply because you felt it would make you more attractive to women, and you never did them simply because you felt yourself worthy of your own accomplishments.

EffinWhiteMale · 2017-08-23T01:54:42+00:00

Sometimes I don't think that feeling ever goes away... It's in our nature to want to continue our genetic legacy... What can I say... we lost control of these hoes and now the human gene pool is a fucking wasteland... go figure... At least a couple years back you could land a girl that was equal to you in looks and now even 1/10s think they deserve a Chad, Tyrone, or Esteban...

mdcrubengonza · 2017-08-23T00:01:52+00:00

Sounds like you are in the wrong sub, bud. /r/incels is that way -->

801735 · 2017-08-23T01:23:49+00:00

Might not be for you, OP, could help some1 else, but the doctor prescribed only 1 portion of Disney per week TOPS. On 2nd thought, make that 1 every month. Maybe it'll get better, but not on its own.

RationalMenWin · 2017-08-23T01:46:03+00:00

MGTOW is not the place for this.

_youtubot_ · 2017-08-23T02:26:51+00:00

You didn't fail, OP. The system failed you. Like Louie CK says, you didn't really want to be a black person in the US before around 1980. Same with being male today. Did you just have a passing boner? RAPIST!! See what I mean?

Massgumption · 2017-08-23T03:45:36+00:00

You need to cultivate meaningful friendships if you still feel empty...honestly I don't think you're cut out for MGTOW.

eja_cool8 · 2017-08-23T09:39:47+00:00

Sysiphus carries the big rock up the hill every day, only to find the rock rolling down the hill as soon as he teaches the stop. That's how futile life is.

What you must do, is imagine that Sysiphus is happy as he does this every time.

ancap-biochemist · 2017-08-23T11:38:08+00:00

It's right there under the surface, staring at you in your post...

You wanted a good and wholesome suitable companion who loved you for you - you achieved so many things because you wanted it to mean... dick?

Seriously?

NONE OF THIS MEANS DICK.

um. Not to get Freudian on you, but you see the symbolic meaning of your words, yes?

Your achievements don't mean dick... i.e. you did all of these things for your dick... which is a euphemism for having sex.

Ok, so, if I understand you correctly, then it follows that you have lived a life in service to sex/getting laid/pussy/a "good and wholesome suitable companion" (who maybe isn't all about sex, but is certainly a meaning greater than "dick").

In plain language - you wanted a woman to give your life purpose. Now that women have been devalued, all your previous values have also been lost... or, at least, don't seem to matter in light of your awakening.

You see, your standard of value was false... and now you must re-evaluate your life, and you find it lacking (e.g. wholesomeness and companionship, and all of the implications of those things).

So...

Good luck with that.

Welcome to day one of your new life. You get to start living for something a bit more real than the female fairy-tale. Some men don't make it - they kill themselves. Other men become exceptionally great (Tesla is a name that gets thrown around a lot as a great man by MGTOW, owing to his lifelong bachelorhood... I would add virtually every frontiersman ever to leave the clusters of women. But many MGTOW have a kind of greatness with time. Regardless...).

The point is - you have to pick a different standard now, against which - you will measure your life.

I suggest something solid, unchanging, universal - a worthy standard.

For me - I picked a kind of love-of-power and desire to achieve mastery over life (my life) and living systems (and my style of living)... A kind of Nietzschean will to power where I just want to be (for lack of a better phrase) bad-ass... in a mad scientist way... look, the point here is you've got to re-evaluate things. I'd make the suggestion to start playing god and use the universe as your yardstick, but... you do whatever you want.

Dank_Meems · 2017-08-23T14:41:06+00:00

That kinda makes me sad too. It sucks being lied to your whole life about women and how they will be there to care for you and pick up the slack and be your "emotional rock" and blah blah blah. Then you grow up, invest your time and money into them and they just take advantage of it while pretending to like you just to keep you around. I can get angry, I can get sad, I can not give a fuck at all, but at the end of the day what really bothers me is I can't have a normal, meaningful relationship with a woman because there is no such thing with them...

SssanL · 2017-08-23T02:26:09+00:00

No and never forget it.

s0ma_ · 2017-08-23T03:37:25+00:00

for looking outward instead of inward; peace escapes you

JayJayEcks · 2017-08-23T04:48:27+00:00

I wonder, if you are lamenting the same issue that Adam had when Lilith bolted from the garden for being the bitch she was born to be. (Between Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:18;21-25)

You could be searching for some divine entity to take your rib and make a woman from you. But I severely doubt that will ever happen again. The feminine gender is 0 for 2, if you ask me. Thrice is not nice, in this context.

Thus you could, if you so wanted, to turn to technology.... sex robots and dolls. Those are the new Eve. Made not by divine winds but by practical hands of men.

ImmortanV8 · 2017-08-23T08:54:33+00:00

I feel with you bro. Habe been there when I was 30. Had my masters degree, was earning serious money and career was going, sports car under my ass and nice appartment. Was red pilled back then but that feeling of emptiness in anything worldly didn't leave me. For me it was children: I wanted to have kids, really craved it, this emotion to put my success into something of higher value, to be valuable to somebody even if that somebody doesn't give you back. What should I do with all that what I had which was too much for me to enjoy alone? I despised women back then but knew I had to get into that deal with the devil. And that unicorn turned into the devil I can tell you! But my son was worth it, he is a total sunshine and the only person in my life that keeps me going. Some people call it legacy, but I do not give a fuck about myself. I only want him to develop his full potential, to be successfull and not live the life of lies that we were fed while growing up. But his mom made me go mgtow from all those years of pain, emotional terror, blackmail and shaming. There is no other way with women then you going your own way, you have to make the bitch follow you. And she will always try to grab that steering wheel, never ever is that to be allowed.

Basically you have 2 choices: either endure the pain alone or endure the pain of a women on your side but enjoy the kids. At least until they reach puberty. After that who knows. I hope all women of these days who are destroying family life with their unlimited egos will go to hell for it in the end. They have no interest in companionship. Only interested in satisfying her own little ego. How pathetic

zandorz · 2017-08-23T11:42:30+00:00

what are u talking about?? u r kidding , right ??

watch this ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-77zhiTyq8

Validation Solicitation Syndrome

AllahHatesFags · 2017-08-23T13:15:03+00:00

Do you have the three sixes (at least 6 feet tall, make at least 6 figures, 6-pack abs)? If you have the cash you should look into getting a mail-order bride from Eastern Europe or Russia. Just get an iron-clad prenup.

IslandicFreedom · 2017-08-23T15:21:59+00:00

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LeykisP1 · 2017-08-23T18:47:54+00:00

You still don't get it obviously. No woman will ever be a good wholesome companion who loves you. That's just the act they put on until you marry them and they have the number of children that they want. After that they have no further use for you, except to extract money. Take it from someone who's been married and divorced, the thing you think exists really doesn't exist at all.

Volcanic-Penguin · 2017-08-24T20:29:48+00:00

Yeah I get what you're feeling.

Title	Why it hurts.
Author	IslandicFreedom
Upvotes	63
Comments	82
Date	August 22, 2017 8:44 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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