Your stance on abortion

New_Banana_Republic · 2016-10-04T18:00:23+00:00

It's hard for me.

I'm all for killing babies, but I seriously hate giving women choices.

black-trash-man · 2016-10-04T18:38:53+00:00

Let's be honest. Would you bring a pure innocent soul into this fucked up planet?

nu216 · 2016-10-04T17:06:54+00:00

As long as I don't have to pay for it, I don't care.

wildfireboat · 2016-10-04T18:28:16+00:00

In my view, Conception is the beginning of the human and therefore it has the right to life at that moment and onward. Thus, destruction of those cells is murder.

Note: I'm not religious.

Digi2112 · 2016-10-04T19:38:50+00:00

Murder

kenlogmein · 2016-10-04T16:17:11+00:00

We have the science and wisdom to know how to have sex without risk of pregnancy. In the modern world, there is no excuse for abortion. If she gets pregnant, it is because she wanted a baby. So I never trust "accidental pregnancy". More like "I need your wallet".

Ultramegasaurus · 2016-10-04T16:21:48+00:00

Very torn. It is very unfair to men and allows women to be reckless. On the other hand, we are overpopulated and definitely don't need the children of idiots.

Sol_Install · 2016-10-04T20:01:45+00:00

I actually don't give a shit about abortion. I have no issue with it. I'll explain why. Throughout history countless men have lost their lives for something else. Sent to die for whatever reason. And those who survive are abandoned. In times of war, men of fighting age are discarded like trash. Expected to fight armed and trained soldiers on their own. Abandoned to die. Men who suffer through war are discarded like trash because they are no longer useful. Men have the highest suicide rates everywhere. Nothing is done about it.

With women, women have no issues with preg trapping, using false positive pregnancy tests, using babies to extort money from men, getting pregnant to avoid deployment in the military. Men use men as pawns to die. Women use men as pawns for money. Both genders are disgusting. If this is how humanity is proud to act, then what does that say about the value of life? What people see us as?

The only time this retched species cares is when they want to keep up numbers and want money from men. It makes me sick. They don't care about any of us. They hate us and shame us. But they call upon us for their money and children which they never appreciated and feel entitled to.

How many men lost their kids? Where were the good women crying NAWALT? Where are the real men standing with us? Nowhere. Tell me why I should find abortion terrible? Tell me why. Humans sacrifice and exploit reproduction without shame.

If anything abortion saves those fetus'/children from being pawns.

bestat777 · 2016-10-04T17:07:40+00:00

Don't like it, and never have, even when I supported it for women, which I don't anymore.

recoveringPHPDev · 2016-10-04T18:19:19+00:00

I don't see a fetus as a person so it's a procedure the woman can choose to have done on her own body. The government has no place getting in the way. There are some unfortunate cases where the man wants the baby and gets no say, but I don't see a good solution to that.

While a sperate issue, I think men should be able to sign away all rights and responsibilities on a fetus.

Cetameta · 2016-10-04T23:44:21+00:00

Abortion should remain legal and should be more accessible to women.

Also, men should get the same choices as women to 'opt out' of being a parent and not forced by the state to raise a baby whether it's because they're irresponsible, or not ready, or forced into the situation (she stopped taking the pill or lied about it, etc).

If society can recognize that a woman has the right to choose to not be a parent after pregnancy then a man should get the same option.

Also, all newborns should be given DNA based paternity tests prior to legal processing of a birth certificate to ensure men aren't fooled into raising a child that's not biologically theirs.

That should help to drive up the abortion numbers and I'm all for it.

FraterGGNM · 2016-10-04T21:36:03+00:00

I'm okay with abortion, but there should be a way that men can sign away responsibility for the child if she doesn't have the procedure and carries to term. If women can dodge responsibility by paying 300 bucks and taking a saturday off, the father should be accorded the same right, for the same cost.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2016-10-04T17:31:46+00:00

It's a nuanced and complicated subject, but I'll start by saying it doesn't matter when men have no reproductive rights. That being said, I don't see it as killing a human being, because the zygote/child/whatever you see it as isn't more fully developed, but I do see it as still killing and taking a life, but again, it doesn't matter when women have seen fit to kill some 50-60 million babies whenever it suits them, and this is just since Wade v Roe. What I don't like is women's sole choice and horrible attitudes and hypocrisy on the matter: no matter if they're religious or conservative or liberal, They'll kill zygote after zygote after baby with no remorse, and all of a sudden it becomes a miracle when she gets herself pregnant by the man she wants to trap. Point is, women have never been responsible enough to handle such a choice, but men made it clear long ago that they were more than happy to make women "equal to men," even though such "equality" failed to give women equal intelligence, strength, awareness, wisdom, compassion, consideration, etc.

realpra · 2016-10-04T17:52:18+00:00

For it, because it lets you discard malformed or unwanted babies. Maybe fine women who do it often though.

Morals? No such thing in this universe so you may as well give life to well-formed and wanted beings.

slappydapussy · 2016-10-04T20:44:26+00:00

It's a living organism that's destined to be a full grown human being. Don't kill them. I notice everyone who is for abortion has been born.

Ximkai · 2016-10-04T22:15:41+00:00

I feel abortion could be justified with some extreme examples. But abortion is most commonly used so Candii doesn't have to cut her clubbing years short. Or so dumbass Jessica can still go to college and ride the CC some more.

Spungo1 · 2016-10-05T13:31:52+00:00

Pro-abortion. Most parents are fucking idiots. They bring kids into the world when they are not ready to be parents, it damages the kids, and the kids often turn into criminals or misfits. Look at r/childfree to see stories of people dealing with shitty kids and awful parents.

If people were more willing to get abortions, and republicans were willing to kill themselves so we don't need to deal with their stonewalling nonsense, ghettos wouldn't exist in their current form. Schools wouldn't have classrooms full of unwanted kids. Gangs of unwanted kids would not roam the streets. Being a single parent is one of the strongest predictors of poverty; it's easy to live on minimum wage when no kids are involved. Without unwanted kids, poverty rates would plunge, welfare spending would plunge, tax rates could be lowered, spending on other things could be increased.

Civil Engineers apparently rate America's infrastructure as a D or D+. We can't fix roads when all of that money is spent on useless kids and useless parents.

Jakedragon422 · 2016-10-04T21:15:33+00:00

Should be illegal period. If you forgot birth control you must pay for it. Im not. If you were raped, whether a man or woman, preventative measures were missing and that baby shouldnt have to die because of the stupidity.

RaziJ · 2016-10-04T21:46:11+00:00

don't care about it, I'm not religious so fuck it who cares? LOL

Allanlemos · 2016-10-04T22:52:17+00:00

I favor it simply because a fetus is not a human being yet,it has no nervous system,it doesn't think or feel,so stopping it from developing is not like shooting a 5 year old kid on the head.

TVTestPattern · 2016-10-05T16:26:07+00:00

Perhaps murder gets a bad rap...

I mean what's the problem? We retroactively abort shitloads of people and animals every day, but it's suddenly immoral if the person is really young?

Abortion is most often used as birth control however, which is pretty disgusting on it's face. This whole idea that the age of the person you're murdering matters is just a way for women to avoid feeling bad about being murders. After conception it's just a matter of how long that human lives whether they are 3 months or 80 years old.

Sn0man79 · 2016-10-04T22:53:39+00:00

irrelevant

Reaganson · 2016-10-05T01:02:25+00:00

Legal murder so you won't be inconvenienced.

Eligendo · 2016-10-05T01:44:04+00:00

I'm against. It's murder

feedmecarrots · 2016-10-05T02:13:09+00:00

I think that it is good that the decision is in the hands of women. It is they who will have to answer for it to the higher power.

Bikemarrow · 2016-10-05T12:45:50+00:00

People that think cutting up a human is a "right" or is a form of birth control, are animals.

Learn some fucking self-control before you fuck.

2016-10-06T01:54:09+00:00

why would i be against abortion? too many fucking people on the planet anyway. hell we need to start offing some of the grown ones too.

jedijackattack1 · 2016-10-08T16:14:00+00:00

I am a massive believer in the lines of Non aggression principle. The issue is that this is aggression against the child but it could be more aggression against the child and the rest of society. So in my opinion based off this idea I believe that women should be able to get a abortion if it was a case of rape of or if it was an unfit mother who would be a drain on the state and others if she had a child.

johndoez35 · 2016-10-05T11:53:04+00:00

Title	Your stance on abortion
Author	kenlogmein
Upvotes	10
Comments	83
Date	October 4, 2016 4:12 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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