Should I be MGTOW

I_like_bicycle · 2021-04-26T10:20:11+00:00

that's not how MGTOW works

SUEDE2BLACK · 2021-04-26T16:32:56+00:00

More importantly than going MGTOW you should focus on making your relationship work atleast till your daughter is 18 and focus on putting your self in a good position if you get divorced before that.

How will you divide your assets where will you live who will keep the house.the list goes on.

In the meantime I think maintaining the relationship as long as possible would be in your best interest.

Frosty-Gate-8094 · 2021-04-26T13:26:42+00:00

The main reason we go MGTOW is the family court and divorce laws.
You haven't mentioned you are married or not, but its possible that you may still be hooked up for CS and possibly alimony (if common-marriage applies).

But there is another reason not to trust women. It is hidden in your statement....

it’s all fair and equal I love my girlfriend and we have a wonderful daughter together but sometimes I just want to be alone I see the benifits of no one relying on me and just doing whatever I want but I’m sure I would mis the connection and partnership I currently have.

A lot of women at your age decide that exact same thing. That they 'settled' too early and should have enjoyed their 'freedom' more.
This leads to unnecessary divorces in otherwise happy marriages and (obviously) men are taken to the cleaners. .

Remember one thing-- the grass is never greener on the other side, Its greener where you water it.

If your relationship is otherwise healthy, and she is a supporting spouse, you might be one lucky 10% who finds a 'unicorn'.

Look deep into your relationship. Read some books like 'the rational male' for a perspective...
Even your spouse can have a read.

See where you both stand, have honest discussions. If she is not cheating, not abusive, doing 50-50 work (taking care of kids and family is also work. Not unpaid labour, mind you)... respect her for that...
A lot of other things can be fixed with counselling.
If your relationship is lacking 'bedroom fun', talk to her. You might see her perspective.

Both can take one step each towards improving the relationship. (Its not a one-way street). Its better to fix a relationship than to find a new one.

Your freedom is important, but dont forget that she probably has also done sacrifices for you and your family.

Ultimately its your choice... Choose wisely. .

sootlord · 2021-04-26T14:04:33+00:00

Look man the best thing you can do at this point moving forward is remain a father and stay with your partner. If you love her and she loves you continue your relationship. Don't break your family up.

What I would suggest like I tell all my boys. If your going to go down the relationship route always prioritize your self care. If your co habitating make sure you have a secret stash of cash somewhere that if something ever happens that you'll have a safety net.

Just keep following Red Pill content and you'll be okay.

the_Chosen_not_Dead · 2021-04-26T14:20:48+00:00

The fact is, MGTOW is a reaction to an increasing unempathetic outlook on men. This leads to far fewer high quality women. If you really want to make sure your woman is high quality, look at how she behaves, if she's an adult who takes responsibility for her actions. If she is the highest quality woman you can possibly hope to attract, then trying to pay off your sexual debt is not worth it. Lots of men can have sex, but very few can find AND keep high quality women who tell you that you are a vital part of the relationship. Maybe don't focus on her so much, try and think about your kid, and how their self esteem and discipline and sexual fulfilment will be destroyed in their future, if they never had a father figure. Try and understand if your family is a high quality one that behaves consistently, and doesn't have bouts of frustration followed by highs of happiness, that is not healthy. If your girlfriend is high quality, you can't have a toe in the water, and bail when things get tough. If she's one of those women, who bail as soon as you have any trouble, financially or health wise, she might not be as much of a catch as you think she is. However, if she's honest and forthright, and has no backup men to fall to when you're caught lacking, and she will support you even if you're down on your luck, that is proof that she is fully invested, and that is a hint that you should take to do the same. Find videos online that explain how a high quality woman acts, they're rarer than you think, Better Bachelor and Alex Grace can explain it far better than I can.

0x3fff0000 · 2021-04-26T15:30:31+00:00

Trust me, you're better off where you are. This is a place for people who've been burned.

Jeanfrom2001 · 2021-04-26T15:58:31+00:00

If you do choose to leave your partner, at least stay in your daughter's life.

cleats4u · 2021-04-26T16:12:41+00:00

You want to throw away a perfectly good relationship with a woman you have a daughter with because you want some "me" time. Are you high? Perhaps drinking too much today? 99.9% of the men didn't get here that way. This isn't we hate women and relationships sub. This is we choose not to be in relationships based on the past experiences of ourselves and those we know...which was not happy.

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Such_Temporary_9597 · 2021-04-26T21:10:34+00:00

Some of us are perfectly content being alone from the sound of it you seem codependent and thats okay we arnt making fun of you and some of us are ment to be mgtows and some bluepillers some wish they had what the other has the grass isnt always greener

Grandpa_MGTOW · 2021-04-26T22:48:49+00:00

MGTOW is a choice based on red-pill knowledge and taking into consideration your own needs and hopes.

Choices have consequences. Choosing MGTOW means no marriage/cohabitation. Now, some men might find that against their needs and hopes and so can't choose that, and fair enough too. MGTOW isn't for them. I wish them luck.

Choosing marriage and children is another choice. You get the family (potentially!), someone to grow old with (potentially!), grandchildren (potentially!), and other benefits. But you lose a certain amount of freedom, as you've found. If you could rewind time, do you really wish you could decide to not have your daughter?

Marriage isn't for me. Up until my 30s, I always thought I'd get married and have children. It wasn't because I really wanted to, but it's just something I thought everyone did. Then, in my 30s, I realised I didn't need to or particularly want to. I'm in my 60s now, and I am happy with my choice.

But I realise there is another life I might have lived: one with a wife with children. Would that have been a better life? Perhaps, depending on the wife and other factors. Some men will be happier being married than being MGTOW. But you'd have to be blind not to recognise the risks of marrying. Marriage isn't for me, but it might be for you.

Just recognise that choices have consequences. You will never know where your path will end. All you can do is choose based on the knowledge you have. Talk to married men, for a start!

Whichever way you go, best wishes brother. Be nice to your girlfriend and to your daughter.

yamahantx700 · 2021-04-27T03:06:21+00:00

I suspect you're the same troll as the other 10 threads you posted.

How many e-mail addresses and reddit accounts do you have?

justadude713 · 2021-04-27T10:34:32+00:00

go play someplace else, mgtow is not a game.

PubliusVirgilius · 2021-04-27T23:09:01+00:00

Why would you go MGTOW if you have a good relationship with your GF? Its also better and healthier if your daughter grows up in a household with 2 parents.

Failedalife · 2021-04-26T12:03:20+00:00

Stay, be loyal to your partner and be a good father.

Good fathers dont kill off their own fathering abilities becourse "my freedom "

Get real.

You chose to get a kid and now you shall get right.

That freedom is long gone. You chose to find a partner and get a baby, so be a good parent. GOOD parents dont fuck up their kids because my feels

Patriot0811 · 2021-04-26T10:26:17+00:00

I just want to be Alone. I took that as you want to put your pecker in something new.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-04-26T10:26:40+00:00

Um. Being alone and lonely are not the same thing. Lonely means you feel there’s a hole. Men who are happily single fill their lives with friends and hobbies and other things.

It’s simple to go out, pay for the things I want, and enjoy spending time on things I enjoy. It gives me peace of mind to see that my retirement nest egg is growing and will afford me a nice life. All of this is in jeopardy with a woman.

We live in an interconnected world now. It’s much easier for a single person who has money to find and connect with friends. Enjoy hobbies, and focus on what they enjoy. But it requires you to have focus in life. Many don’t have that.

nathanface2020 · 2021-04-26T10:34:55+00:00

So it’s just about being single forever what if I was to meet someone else because I genuinely believe all the will power I have would make me stop MGTOW if I did do you just have to put these feelings aside how do yous deal with this. And are you still aloud to be intermit with women I’ve read a few post regarding hate towards women is this how I don’t naturally feel this way towards women but they can be super annoying of course but who isn’t I definitely see the positives financially

JacksterTrackster · 2021-04-26T12:58:01+00:00

It's normal to want to be alone even in a relationship. Everyone needs to be alone once in a while. This is MGTOW. It's about creating your own path. If you feel happy in the relationship, then stay. If not, then don't be afraid to walk away. That's what MGTOW is about. By doing you.

EEEGuba69 · 2021-04-26T12:28:02+00:00

Keep it in mind, but dont act on it, remember, you have a child, you have a small human that has a giant piece of her mind devoted to you, mgtow is mostly here to not get trapped and fucked over, for now you have a relationship, so just wait, i waited and it died(the relationship), you can wait try to get some time to yourself maybe, remember we arent monsters, we just dont want to be hurt again, so you just dipping leaving 2 people or making selfish decisions isnt ok

TeddyMGTOW · 2021-04-26T12:54:55+00:00

maybe read up on Red Pill

orangekrush19 · 2021-04-26T12:56:04+00:00

Do not break up your family just because you want to be alone with “no one relying on you”. Unless you have a miserable relationship, your daughter needs the support of a family unit and from your post, there’s no real justification for you to break up that family unit. Life isn’t all about your needs anymore, unless of course your daughter is just going to be witness to a toxic relationship

classicliberal1 · 2021-04-28T16:05:12+00:00

> But I can only imagine the freedom I could have by going MGTOW how do you deal with the not being part of a family

Mgtow means not legally, financially, or emotionally committing to a woman. You can have sex and even children, but if you are attached to them or married then you are violating the one and only defining property of mgtow. That's ok. Mgtow isn't for anyone.

Clearly you are emotionally attached to both of them. There is great risk in that, but since you are already attached, that risk already exists. Still I would advise against marriage as she could ruin your life and turn you into a slave where if you lost your job you would go to prison and risk being raped or assaulted by other inmates. That's the sad reality of marriage, and this reality does hurt the children, but you can't change this reality.

Going mgtow does not mean isolation. You can still have family, friends, and lovers. You just don't commit to a woman in any way. You can commit to your child though. But yes, not emotionally committing to a woman means you don't fully share your life with someone. You don't have a life partner. You just spend time with women you enjoy and share parts of your life with them. That's the trade off. You can't avoid trade offs in life.

Title	Should I be MGTOW
Author	nathanface2020
Upvotes	1
Comments	40
Date	April 26, 2021 10:12 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW2
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