The Case Against NoFlap

DangZagnut · 2019-07-13T04:50:42+00:00

NoFap is just some religious nonsense, pushed by the same people that want to butcher male children.

NoFap is ridiculous, they claim magic powers, like Vegans, but when any "non religious" person does it, it doesn't seem to do shit.

I mean, I don't discriminate, if not having sex or masturbating makes you happy, more power to you, I hate no issue, but there are no magical powers.

EnigmaticRonin · 2019-07-14T08:17:11+00:00

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7242091/

This study done a while ago shows that Catholic priests had a lower risk if prostate cancer.

Either way, do nofap or not...up to you. I have been on no fap hard mode for a year now and I enjoy it. Best shape of my life, have no problem interacting with the opposite sex. I recommend it so you can truly learn to overcome your biological urges. Let's face it...many men have a hard time not touching their dick, or have a hard time ignoring their dick. Nofap simply gives that control back. While others are still chasing women, buying sex dolls, or checking out anime waifus...some men have actually been able to put all that behind them and live without that nagging urge.

WildChad · 2019-07-14T16:48:27+00:00

Keep on fapping is all I care,
I go for nofap because I'm sick of tired of how empty, depressed and just SHIT I feel when I fap.

The whole prostate thing has been mostly debunked - Where is the data about monks dying over prostate cancer?

The idea that you need to clean your pipes is idiotic as the body self cleans naturally.
What is unnatural is to engage with delusions of your own making and zoning out while jerking your meat sausage.

sir_shitfuck · 2019-07-14T05:24:44+00:00

Should I listen to the mainstream normified (((scientific studies))), or the monks and spiritual traditions over thousands of years who have basically figured this whole thing out?

SullenBol · 2019-07-14T06:44:51+00:00

This is enough guys! How comes people who are criticizing NoFap are those who don't struggle with the addiction? Like, do you even know how it is. Can you tell a drunk that sobriety is dumb when you don't know how it feels to be constantly drunk? NoFap is the same. It may be dumb or made-up, but if it makes sense to people dealing with the addiction, that's all that matters. Mind your own shit.

ragnar_graybeard87 · 2019-07-13T06:21:00+00:00

You guys are rejecting the mainstream that tells us to find a wife and marry. Then you accept the mainsteam when it tells you 'clean out the pipes'...

I've never gone long enough on nofap "hard mode" to get this, because I always have a GF around or I eventually give in and jerk it but when your shit gets full you'll just have a 'wet dream'. No need to yank it. Especially not to porn which fucks up our entire perspective on ourselves and our prospective partners.

There's no good that comes from jerking it. I don't need the 'superpowers' anymore but if you try for 3 weeks of no ejaculation (hard mode) I can guarantee you'll see benefits... Either chicks notice me more or I notice them noticing me. Either way it gives you confidence, so quit being a bench warmer and try to get in the game. Whatever it does, it fucking works.

Guyanese__Gangster · 2019-07-13T06:58:32+00:00

There's plenty of studies that come to the conclusion that there is no correlation (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15069045?dopt=Abstract). People do the same thing for wine and types of food. When you're purely measuring correlation between something and cancer, it's very common for different studies to get the polar opposite results, suggesting that it doesn't affect the outcome either way or that the impact is minimal. People cherry pick studies to justify their addiction to wine just like you justify your sex/masturbation addiction but cherry picking these studies.

Please also bare in mind these studies ask 50/60 year olds how much they masturbated when they were younger and then match it with whether or not they got cancer. This is bad because it not only relies on human memory of what happened decades ago, but it is also something that they could easily lie about. This is not good science.

Lastly if you actually care about reducing the risk of cancer then eating healthily, getting good sleep and exercise will significantly reduce all kinds of cancer. Masturbating everyday to slightly reduce one type of cancer is just stupid. All you are doing is justifying your addiction and looking for reasons to continue.

I'm not even a part of Nofap so don't accuse me of being a part of a cult.

30203forever · 2019-07-13T10:02:21+00:00

Before "The Case Against NoFap", there should be a case For it and I have not seen anything close to it so far. Only personal experiences, some moral pronouncements and such. Well, if it works for some folks, great for them but before they can make it a coherent case backed up by some testable evidence, there is no need to disprove it. Plus, NoFap is the solution for no known problem, IMHO.

Frelsi_8899 · 2019-07-13T12:04:44+00:00

I agree with all the health benefits, but their claim on sheer virility makes no sense either.

If you're really spending hours a day masturbating then, by all means, take a frigging break. However occasional masturbation, yes even once or twice a day will not make you any less horny.

Repentent_sinner · 2019-07-13T15:29:56+00:00

Yeah, keep watching porn and playing with your dick, you stupid monkeys. And lose energy to learn, meditate, progress in the holy life.

Ever hear of kriya yoga, the practice as described by the Buddha, Taoism, etc? Ofcourse you haven't, you dick heads.

Have you heard of that study which showed that monkeys will 'pay' to watch monkey porn?

Amphibole_ · 2019-07-19T12:16:46+00:00

If anyone has any scientific understanding of the fields covered by the topic, I'd like to hear your thoughts, especially anything contrary to my theory below.

For the last year I've been occasionally looking for studies on the matter and never found anything, so I love you for posting this.

I'd like to note that nofap does increase testosterone, which should have side effects. How positive or negative they are is subjective, but shouldn't be ignored.

In the past I hypothesised that semen can cause cancer, and was astounded to find scientists dismiss the idea, and no one mention it (until now).

The reason I questioned it was because semen is a strong immunosuppressant. This means that it heavily weakens the immune system, essentially deactivating immune cells it comes into contact with. It has this function to allow sperm to survive during sex, allowing it to reach the egg.

Now I'd expect that due to this immunosuppressant nature of semen, it would also compromise the immune system of the man. As the immune system is vital in stopping tumours, and semen does suppress anti-tumour related cells, it would be reasonable to suggest that semen can cause cancer. So it only makes sense that nofap increases semen presence and exposure to decay, and therefore cancer, even to a limited extent.

The linked article really only shows a correlation, so there may be many potential reasons, and my theory could be completely negligible or flawed. But it's interesting how hard it is to come by discussions on the matter. Especially when you see a large movement of nofap, and I remember reading an article of a woman drinking semen every morning, and no one mentioning that it's carcinogenic.

Title	The Case Against NoFlap
Author	ThePenitentMan38
Upvotes	14
Comments	44
Date	July 13, 2019 4:39 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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