Thoughts on wgtow?

Alucardnz · 2020-12-08T07:00:54+00:00

Can’t see anything wrong with independence and self reliance. I would hope it ends in happiness and content.

Bojof12 · 2020-12-08T07:31:58+00:00

Good for them honestly. If that’s what works for them then congrats

2020-12-08T07:39:14+00:00

They have my full support. Wish them all the best for their future endeavors. ✌🏽

fibbingcat85 · 2020-12-08T07:36:24+00:00

Wish them the best.

red-tea-rex · 2020-12-08T08:42:38+00:00

Good for them. Anyone can and should GTOW if that's what they want to do. If that's what improves their life.

SpaceNinjaDino · 2020-12-08T10:13:31+00:00

They should lead an independent lifestyle too. Intimate relationships usually make people compromise who they are and what makes them happy.

On the macro level, we need to have less people reproducing because we are straining resources. Limiting offspring naturally without mandates should be celebrated

MyLittlePonyofDoom · 2020-12-08T09:20:03+00:00

Real mgtow wouldn’t care about wgtow

juice_bomb · 2020-12-08T10:01:03+00:00

It is what it is. Let it go let it be. Everyone deserves freedom and a peaceful life.

pshylocibe · 2020-12-08T10:15:11+00:00

Lol they have been allways wgtow

Noodles_R · 2020-12-08T10:18:34+00:00

As a woman, I think it’s great, just like MGTOW.

I will only even remotely consider a relationship in future if someone adds significantly to my life. I don’t feel, like you guys it seems, that anything is missing in singledom. I earn my own money, will buy my own property etc. Everyone, men and women, shouldn’t be pressured into marriage by societal expectations.

DevilComeKnockin · 2020-12-08T11:11:06+00:00

I view it as a good thing. I mean, in all honesty, alot of MGTOW is just about living a responsible, deliberate life. ( Which includes viewing the dangers of interpersonal relationships realistically.) In other words, being a functional adult.

Women should absolutely follow suit, I think it would be better for the world overall.

Impossible-asset · 2020-12-08T11:44:57+00:00

Apples and oranges. Why does this bullshit keep coming up here? Wgtow is a non-thing.

Why? Because women benefit from the marriage contract. And men don't. Plenty of numbers to support that in divorce rates. Who gets to pay alominy. Lose custody of the kids etc etc.

Wgtow are spinsters and cat lady's in practice or training, and bothering with any of that is a waste of your time.

You might as well ask "hey guys, do you believe in ghosts?"

theBirdu · 2020-12-08T10:18:05+00:00

I think it's good. I saw some of the posts, and some have been really traumatised by trashy and abusive men. I guess it's their choice to go their own way. There's only so much we can do to change trashy men, they exists everywhere.

hamster1127 · 2020-12-08T10:49:38+00:00

Better than feminism, thats for sure

Gerppuli · 2020-12-08T11:09:39+00:00

Good for them

george_reeves_ · 2020-12-08T11:24:04+00:00

I see nothing wrong with being independent and self reliant. I wish them all the best and hope they end up happy.

MRNOFUCKSTOGIVE · 2020-12-08T09:28:55+00:00

so be it

RatingsOutOfTen · 2020-12-08T13:56:19+00:00

I kind of support it. Either the women will go their own way and we can be buddies... the women will go their way and go against their nature and maybe marry down (halolhahahaha) or maybe women will realize how much they need men in the short term, but how men only need women in the long term, unless men are willing to walk away from the traditional role of, protector, provider, community leader, husband and walk entirely away from their culture.

I think WGTOW is just going to be a small minority of overweight, feminist women, that is going to be projected all over the place and MGTOW is going to simultaneously grow in numbers, while also being downplayed and ignored until there are metaphorical "barbarians" are at the gates. Then the men have to decide if they are going to fight and risk, or watch everyone become enslaved.

When women complain that MGTOW are all "useless men" and "incels" or "gay" and whatever else... we've all heard it before... they are usually projecting. For sure there are some men that aren't the best men out there. Some might be overweight or have a crooked nose or not make a lot of money or something, and thats fine... but those men should end up with an overweight, submissive, ugly woman. Instead, those women are just having sex with men who don't want to be with them really and those women think "okay... now I just need to get one of these men to STAY with me... hm...?" and the women don't realize that things are seriously changing and that the cooked nose fat guy is not MGTOW, and the guy fucking her is probably at least red pilled. PEople are learning again why sluts need to be shamed. You can't have a civilization full of women that are 90% sluts because 90% of men won't knowingly commit to a slut and 90% of men will turn down a woman who asks a man for marriage because the woman will always ask way above her league.

In the late 90s, the "party" really started kicking off. Everyone was having fun and pretending to be good still. The men were still shy, but so were the women. Hopefully a few happy marriages exist from this time still. Remember when kissing a woman for the first time and holding her hand at the park was kind of a special moment? That was nice. Women flushed that. Men were seen as fat, dorky dad types. 2000s and basically everyone was acting like drunk college kids everyone was getting laid and even fat, ugly, dorky men had fat ugly dorky women to screw. It was nice while it lasted. This is the era when sluts called other women sluts for acting slutty. It was still fun and a good laugh. Men were portrayed as these "cool new funny guys". 2010s, women were starting to get entitled, realizing they could have anyone they want sexual and weren't commiting. Men began to leave. Women were getting wrecked by the CC and PUA community. 2019-2020, men were leaving in droves and women were getting more entitled the more they were getting used by men who don't like them. The party is just starting to get to that point where the women at this metaphorical party are realizing that they basically allowed themselves to become prostitutes. The good men have left. The high value men stop in for a quick drink and a quickie and then leave them and then there are the actual incels and simps with the Onlyfans accounts. Even if these women leave the party themselves, they are marked. Men know what bad women look like now. Men can spot a jezabel now, nomatter how much she tries to cover her tattoos up. The only way a bad woman could maybe pass as a good woman is to have no tattoos, be clean, dress nicely without breaking the bank, know how to cook as if she has years of experience(lol), have many hobbies that she is actively working on as an excuse for how she spend her weekends in her youth, basically throw away her old personality and do a complete overhaul on it, not wear makeup hardly at all except maybe some light eyebrow touch-up or something, but not this "paint on a new face" crap that makes women all look the same.

"Oh by why do women have to be perfect if men don't!?!?!?! or what about sLUTtY men!?!?!?" The women will ask.... here is the answer: Men don't want a thottie. Thats the important point. Men will remain single and be happy. They legitimately will. Men will buy dogs. Men will have male friends. Men will start a farm. Men will find hobbies. Women don't have to be perfect either to please a man, but having an onlyfans account EVER, or using your body like a piece of meat online, or riding the CC or not having literally anything to contribute aside from lazy starfish sex is a net negative for men. Men would rather be single or try and routinely fail to reach down for a younger woman than put up with the overweight cat ladies. Men get that women have standards too. Men have known that for a long time. It's apples and oranges. Men don't like slutty women. Women don't mind a slutty man. Men's standards require a woman achieve more, be honest, take care of herself, and have some morals. Women's standards stress men out, cost them money, and often don't matter because the women today are taught to chase their dreams, follow their heart, and go on the "magic carpet ride" when fuckboi Aladin from the club rolls up.

No thanks ladies. This isn't going to work... and even if it does and men start to chase WGTOW women, I personally won't. The elites have succeeded in getting men to not want to fight for, protect, pursue or care about women. This decade is going to be terrible.

Rev_Irreverent · 2020-12-08T15:07:57+00:00

Marriage provides a number of practical benefits for women, which is why it makes no sense for a WGTOW to protest the current situation of married women before the law. I have never read anything that has been written by supporters of such a WGTOW, but I suspect that many women can use this label to spread gynocentrism, complaining about disadvantages and made up "means of oppression". Others may use mirroring as a way to discredit MGTOW. If, however, some women are attracted to this lifestyle because they are naturally reclusive or averse to marriage and cohabitation, they have my full support. I imagine that the social pressures that fall on women in this regard are as strong or stronger than those that we feel.

SirBlankFace · 2020-12-08T23:45:25+00:00

It's redundant. Women already have a self-empowerment movement that sheds like on negative societal standards and hypocrisy in feminism. A women's independence and self-reliance is actively encouraged in this day and age so much that other women feel guilty in wanting to be stay at home moms and housewives.

wgtow is like telling your parents you're moving out only to shack up in the garage. It feels like a big life altering change when nothing fundamentally changed and they're still within the safety net of a encouraging and supportive society.

Dev_Jena · 2020-12-08T09:41:29+00:00

daniellederek · 2020-12-08T10:11:04+00:00

Only counts if they are net taxpayers 3 years consecutively without alimony or baby daddy checks.

M1L03 · 2020-12-08T10:11:36+00:00

Honestly, I couldn't care less. What ever works for them.

Ays_500 · 2020-12-08T11:34:50+00:00

As long as they don't bother us, do whatever u wanna do lol

Jakeybaby125 · 2020-12-08T10:59:09+00:00

Idgaf tbh. You do you so long as it doesn't hurt others

UrAverageDegenerate · 2020-12-08T11:00:33+00:00

Heck yeah, like the top comment said, whatever brings them happiness and contentment in their lives. Good on them.

Also, I kinda feel bad that the top comment got more upvotes than the actual post, we got some weird negative bois up in this sub downvoting this post because(i think) it's sorta showing some type of positivity towards women. Idk, i just feel bad for u OP lol.

MajIssuesCaptObvious · 2020-12-08T13:49:44+00:00

Good for them! I'm sure they have their own set of problems when dating, so I totally understand why they did it. The dating world can be pretty damn cold.

Subjectobserver · 2020-12-08T14:46:21+00:00

Don't care!

casra888 · 2020-12-08T14:58:54+00:00

Who cares???

TheApricotCavalier · 2020-12-08T15:21:16+00:00

doublecremeoreo · 2020-12-08T15:24:53+00:00

I fully respect it. And I joined it. Its a fantastic way to keep your ego in check, and realise that there is more than one perspective.

PepeTheMemeDealer · 2020-12-08T15:41:37+00:00

I feel great that there are women who don’t rely on men. Same with men who don’t rely on women.

2020-12-08T16:26:53+00:00

They have always been WGTOW though.

What would that even look like?

ronoda12 · 2020-12-08T17:19:31+00:00

Fine as long as they don’t financially rape the taxpayers for welfare

RaiderBoyComingIn · 2020-12-08T17:23:54+00:00

I would congratulate them for at least trying to find a less than useless path for themselves.

Norman_T_Chadlite · 2020-12-08T23:08:02+00:00

They're incapable unless lezbo.

Blunt_Sage · 2020-12-09T01:40:56+00:00

Utterly derivative, unimaginative, and even a bit spiteful.

WGTOW only exists out of anger towards MGTOW. Hell, it only exists because MGTOW exists. Period.

bEaT-eM-aLL · 2020-12-09T04:15:00+00:00

If it is true that most of them came from abusive relationships then their current course of action is better than turning to a normal modern woman. I've seen countless women remember having crappy childhood from abusive parents or beat up by abusive exes to excuse their drug abuse and alcohol addiction. I've been with one thinking I could be a positive influence in her life, needless to say it didn't work out, like she lied and I believed her other account has her ex on it because he hacked it lie and when I surprised visit her I caught them together and mother apologized to me lie. After two months she then drunk called me to apologize. I felt bad for her but I said "if you can't apologize sober then don't apologize at all"

CoolDEpot · 2020-12-08T10:18:29+00:00

Good thing !!

plamplamthrow0321 · 2020-12-08T15:43:21+00:00

"Who cares"

Also see: "Feminism"

2020-12-08T17:08:17+00:00

If they really are trying to go their own way then good on them. I wish nothing but the best of luck, and God speed.

TigPlaze · 2020-12-08T17:14:23+00:00

I barely ever even think about them.

antifeminist3 · 2020-12-08T17:56:22+00:00

They self-quarantined for a while (not anymore). Apparently other reddit post indicated it was because of hateful things, to prevent people from complaining and getting banned.

Perseus_the_Bold · 2020-12-08T18:02:34+00:00

WGTOW is the one instance where I can actually say "You go girl!" because they are going their own way. Good for them.

PollyannaSpock · 2020-12-08T18:37:29+00:00

I’ve never understood the battle of the sexes, and never had any desire to GMOW. I’ve always avoided mean people, and did inner work to be less needy and have healthy boundaries and have been fine. I guess I think all this repetitive public GMOW drum-banging is more an expression of angst than an empowering revelation. I gave up on Barbies when I got all boy-crazy after puberty, but I didn’t constantly complain about Barbies or tell the world about my decision.

gubmint350 · 2020-12-08T20:21:18+00:00

WGTOW. Why do women want to hit and hurt men? They should be demonetized on Youtube these awful women....

SuperiorFarter · 2020-12-08T10:20:31+00:00

That will never happen. Women are 100% dependent on society.

Title	Thoughts on wgtow?
Author	Capital-Ad-831
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Comments	66
Date	December 8, 2020 6:49 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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