Will MGTOW make a difference?

Million-Suns · 2018-11-11T04:54:19+00:00

No. Men are the weaker sex. They go to extreme lengths to serve the Pussy. They even backstab each other because of said thirst.

MGTOW men are special and a minority not falling into that. And will always be a minority as long as men will let their sex drive control them.

So in the end, I don't think it will make a difference. All the tools for waking up are there. Heck even women like Dr Helen Hunt with her book Men on Strike tried to spread awareness. But people are not using them. They should have a long while ago. And I don't see what will make them change.

hrm0894 · 2018-11-11T11:26:11+00:00

I can't tell, to be honest. But look at how many new subscribers /r/MGTOW is getting. /r/theredpill was almost at 300k before the quarantine. I'm also seeing a HUGE influx of MGTOW videos and comment sections with the MGTOW hashtag whenever a post is filled with redpills.

What I'm trying to get at is it's too early to tell. Most men are ignorant as to what goes on in the dating scene. If they were to come across this information, a lot of them would at the very least stop simping. Do some trial-and-error long enough and you'll realize the juice isn't worth the squeeze; I mean, just go and read some of the field reports over at /r/theredpill and /r/marriedredpill--the shit those guys have to put up with just for a single lay is beyond insanity!

I'm noticing more and more millenials in their 20s GTOW because they see what has happened and what is happening to older men in relationships. We now have concrete evidence and the information is spreading fast thanks to social media. Remember, for every 1 guy that goes his own way, there will be 1 less woman with support.

I believe the symptoms of feminism will cause a collapse. MGTOW is just one of many.

Supernumiphone · 2018-11-11T04:16:09+00:00

But will MGTOW stop the march of gynocentrism?

Certainly not. Look out into the world at all the problems all over. War, corruption, greed, etc. It's all due to our primitive nature. Civilization is a thin and fragile veneer over the core of what we are, what truly drives us. The reason we don't have a peaceful, harmonious, loving, and equal society the world over is because our true nature is just that powerful. No matter how we rationalize our decisions, they mostly come from that place.

My point here is that our rational, thinking minds are not in control of the majority of what we do. As a result of course our society is not going to change much due to MGTOW, no matter how many men go their own way. People will still act on their drives even in the face of clear evidence that it is counterproductive. No matter how we may complain about the situation, we will still go on acting in a self-interested way to try to achieve those desires.

I'm no expert on the situation in Japan, but from what I've seen it's a good example of this. You've got a visible, significant group of "grass-eating men" and I've seen interviews with women complaining that they can't find the kind of men they want. Do they look at their role in creating the situation and try to make a positive change? Of course not, that would require effort. Instead they double-down on their rigid requirements and focus on spending time with friends. Basically going their own way as well. This is what I'd expect to see everywhere.

Will society really collapse 100 years from now due to feminism?

Society is such a complex system that no one can predict what will happen. Some kind of collapse or a lesser version of such a thing is surely possible, but not certain. Even if it were to happen who knows when? In any case if it does happen it won't be due to feminism. Feminism is more of a symptom than a root cause in my opinion.

It is all fundamentally unknowable. It is possible that if enough men go their own way that it will create enough pressure to get some of the more egregious laws that endanger men to be reworked. That's the extent of change I'd expect might come from MGTOW though. Nothing big, no reversal of direction. The genie is out of the bottle and nothing short of a dark-ages style period after a major collapse will put it back in. It would take something that extreme for people to be willing to accept the changes that would be required to bring back the kind of stability we had in the past.

Regardless, to me MGTOW is not about bringing about any kind of change. It's not about waiting for things to get better so I can go back to doing things the way I used to. It's just about living for myself. Making the best life I can. If the majority wants to drive us to destruction my only ask is that they slow down enough for things to hold together until I die. Then they can burn it all to the ground if they want to.

Workaholico · 2018-11-11T07:32:40+00:00

Probably not.

But again, most men who GTOW are looking for their own happiness, not the society's.

There is surelly going to be another world war. And I am almost sure that "the west" will lose, and with it, this gynocentrism thing. But probably it will not happen while we are alive, maybe by the 22nd or 23rd century. And by them we have global warming being a worse problem than gynocentrism.

It is better to not think of the inevitable collapse. It is like the heat death of the universe or the sun turning into a red giant, it is sure to happen, but we can't change it, nor it will happen while we are alive, so might as well focus in our happiness for now. MGTOW is just that, a place to help men to be men, find a path away from societies madness and laugh at society's absurdist behavior.

If we gonna fall anyway, might as well fall laughing with our friends right?

MajIssuesCaptObvious · 2018-11-11T01:57:41+00:00

It's ok if women do fine. They aren't going to take over the world and oppress mankind. Let them live their lives; you live yours.

Society won't collapse. Even if it does, humanity will continue. Humanity has faced much worse than a battle of the sexes. MGTOW is about changing our own lives how we want. No one can stop that. No one can force us to marry, have children, be in relationships, spend our hard earned money on a hypergamous partner, etc. Stop worrying about futuristic movie plots and focus on your happiness. Everything will fall into place on its own.

goat-head-man · 2018-11-11T22:51:59+00:00

MGTOW will not save society, nor is it intended as such. It will however lower stress levels and increase your personal happiness/comfort. It is merely a guideline for you to use to find your niche.

Over the years I have worked in 5 of the 10 fields considered to have the highest workplace fatality rates in the US (transportation, agriculture, manufacturing, logging and construction). There was a glaring lack of female representation at each of these positions. Women do not build or support the infrastructure or furtherance of society in most cases.

Buy tools and toys, improve your tradecraft and your health, look inwards and grow. Write your own story and tell anyone who wants to dictate your story to fuck off.

Oh, and while you are at it, tell society to piss off as well - it is a self-supporting nightmare of keeping you down and as far away from personal freedom as possible.

Don't drink the kool-aid. Live for yourself; let society live in the bed it has made.

DocHolliday226 · 2018-11-11T02:16:16+00:00

If mgtow has changed the life of one man, it's made a difference.

20cansofSpam · 2018-11-11T14:28:14+00:00

Men will realize it's not their fault.

ResidentTruck · 2018-11-13T06:57:04+00:00

It's only meant for the individual. It is not a movement.

This idea that's floating around that if enough of us go our own way it'll force a hard reset of our culture is bullshit. Whether they admit it or not everyone knows about female nature already. Everyone also knows how fucked our culture is. All the relevant tropes have been in use in every kind of media for decades now.

Women might do fine without us. Who cares? It won't matter to you if you're already happily doing your own thing, yourself.

MTP2148 · 2018-11-13T20:16:01+00:00

I also do not think that society will collapse into a road-warrior style apocalypse. As I have said before, people are awfully fond of their flush toilets, and broadband internet. There will be cumulative effects of MGTOW occasionally, then women will temporarily change their behavior until men's penises take over again. Then women will change back, and some men will go MGTOW again. The real change happens one man at a time.

potatorockstar · 2018-11-14T16:38:25+00:00

no. the simps are billionfold more. there will never be any singnificance for MGTOW outside an old internet fad.

Title	Will MGTOW make a difference?
Author	raft_lost_at_sea
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Comments	12
Date	November 11, 2018 12:44 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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